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Does anybody know the BSL of the 27,5 on...
Does anybody know the BSL of the 27,5 on these?
I'm keen to get some T1's My current boots...
I'm keen to get some T1's My current boots are 26.5 trace and 27 t2x. There both two big the t2x's are okay for touring but both have a bunch of lift when on big lines or resort and the boot cuff is hurting my leg when i stack. how does the fit of t1's compare to other boots in the scarpa line I measure for 25.5 on the backcountry and scarpa size chart but only just fit in the 25.5 t4 all i can find to try on in aus. my feet measurements are 25.5 and 95 wide which i think is narrow, i have pretty skinny legs and feet. If anyone has any ideas and sugestions that would be great.
So the 26.5 and 27 are the same shell size just diffrent liners. So with you current boots take out the liner place you foot in the shell and slide it all the way forward till your toes are touchig in the front. If you have 3/4 of an inch of space between your heel and shell that is what we call a comfort fit and any more you should go down a shell size. With a skinny foot I would look to have the spacing about a 1/2 inch between heel and shell.. a little less is ok but not too much or your loosing toe nails. Keep in mind that same rule applies with Scarpa if you go to the 25.5 it share the same outer shell as the 26.. again just diffrent sized liners. I would measure your t-race that is the closest you will get to accurate sizing on T1. Hope this helps
Write your question here... Hello, I have...
Write your question here... Hello, I have a pair or t1 that I've bought 4 seasons a go, and I might have put 200 days on them. This year they started to feel funny so I've bought a new set of liners. But after a few days good felling, it feels like the boot change the shape, when Im just standing on my skis it feels like I can't put my feet flat on the ski. I have no stability when Im not making turns.
I heard this boot can't handle more than 150 days.
Any thoughts?, can I do something, or it's over.
Anyway, I love this boots and I will buy them again anytime.
I've got about 200+ days on mine, and have no issues. The liners are fine, and the boots are totally solid. I've never heard about a 150 day life span- there are folks who've put three times that use into their T1's. I don't know why your boots would break down. DId you have the liners heat molded?
I don't see why you would have to buy a new pair of boots, unless yours are totally hammered. Scarpas are not iPods- they aren't built to break down after a certain life time. Your T1's should be fine. If you could describe the problems you're having in greater detail, I might be able to help you more. I'm sure there is a solution, other than buying a new pair. Did you buy them from backcountry.com?
What's the best tele boot for feet that...
What's the best tele boot for feet that trend a bit on the wide side?
From a typical standpoint, Garmont boots are built for a wider forefoot,
HOWEVER: with modern thermal moldable liners, the difference is altogether negligible. There are other differences between brands/models of boots that may make a difference in fit (Namely: heel shape, as well as flex and cuff height/shape), but a proper boot fitting job can and will eliminate any problems that could arise from width. I have typically very wide, flat feet, and scarpas are traditionally the 'narrow' boot, but that has not had any effect on my T1s' fit or performance.
I have skied alpine for years and can ski...
I have skied alpine for years and can ski just about anything. I have decided to get into tele and I will be starting in bounds but will eventually want to tour and hit the backcountry. Would this be a good boot to start with and keep as I advance or should I start with a different boot and upgrade later? Same question for the Black Diamond Push boot.
Go fot the T1. Scarpa has been making great boots for decades, that hold up better than the competition, and perform better, too. The T1 is the to which all others are compared. For resort performance in the backcountry, look no further. I think BD boots are OK, and the Custom is the boot I would go for if I were to get a pair. However, BD boots are relatively new, and haven't had the test of time put on them yet. I don't know if BD's will be solid for ten years, or even three. They are too new, and haven't seen the gauntlet through which people subject their boots.
I can say definitively that Scarpa T1's are solid, long lasting, and the superior performing boot available. The previous school of thought was that Scarpas were narrower than Garmonts, but the new Scarpas accommodate larger volume foots just as well. The moldable liners are the key to wearing boots for long days and staying comfortable. T1's are my boot of choice. Get 'em!
While it is true that Scarpa has been making footwear for decades, it is my understanding that BD actually designed and developed Scarpa's tele boots. In recent years, there has been a "falling out" between the 2 companies and now BD has gotten the manufacturing details of ski boots sorted out and are producing their own product.
That said, like any boots or shoes, the number one concern for a given style/type of tele boot should be fit, followed by the various gimmicks that are available. As others have noted, the thermo-fitting process does wonders for fit, but the fact remains that the 4 different manufacturers use 4 different "lasts" for their shells, so there are going to be fit differences that cannot be mitigated by thermo-forming the liners. Try some on and walk around the store for an hour before dropping that hard-earned money.
Another important concern (after fit, my second greatest consideration) is the boot weight. I ski the backcountry 90% of the time, so I'm lugging my boots up every run; this is part of my swing weight. I want infinitely strong and stiff boots that weigh an infinitesimal amount (helium filled would be great). I've found the Scarpas to be the most favorable, the Garmonts to be quite heavy, and here's the shocker: the BD's are like lead bricks! What do I ski? Blue Scarpa T2's that are 1lb lighter than a comparable Garmont Synergy or Energy for EACH boot! If you're going to be earning your turns, then shaving swing weight will reward you with faster and easier climbs, which means more runs on a given day.
Are the 26 and 26.5 the same shell size?...
Are the 26 and 26.5 the same shell size? I measure a 26.5 but they are sold out. And I don't think I will fit in a 27.5 at all.
The shell is a 26 for the 26.5. A 27.5 liner will come in a 27 shell. The liners work to accommodate the half sizes in between. A 27.5 would most likely be too big for you. I don't have any suggestions for you except to check elsewhere online. I'm sure there's a few pairs on 26.5 T1's around. It's super important to have comfortable boots that fit. If your feet are happy, you are happy.
I love these boots
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I'm still skiing in these boots! I get about 40 days a year in, and the liners got pretty packed, so I put footbeds between the shell and the liner. It takes up just enough volume inside to make them better than ever. BETTER THAN EVER!
After I finally tweaked the fit (with help from alpenglow) these boots make my feet happy. No longer do my toenails turn black, no longer do I dread turning right. This is my third pair of T-1's and were the hardest to get right. but boy-o-boy are they right now!
(200 now) days and running strong
I had an old pair of 3 buckle T Races with thermal liners. They were great, but with more than about two-hundred days on them, they started getting some holes in the bellows where my boots bumped and hit the skis. So, I scored a deal on the new T1's. Taking measures against boot knocking and wear on the contact points, I put a few gobs of Shoe-Goo on the 'hot spots.' This needs re-application every so often, but it keeps the boots fresh looking.The first day on these at the 'Bird was great. Much stiffer, and much more comfortable than the old T Races, which themselves were far better than the symmetrical flex T Races previous to those.I've since hiked to yurts, skied steep, deep, resort piste, park, and cliffs. They handle it all. Besides the performance on the down as well as the up-track, I like that I can put on all my ski gear, walk down the street, hitch a ride up the canyon, ski all day, and hitch back down, all with leaving my T1's on my feet. No blisters, no charlie-horses, just wearin' my ski boots. Of course, the funk level is off the charts with the boots, and they require a quarantine room with the boot dryers, but that's okay. Dryer sheets help with the odor, and some wine connoissuers rave about the the 'ski boot' aroma of their cabernet.All kidding aside, these are excellent boots and give my full endorsement. If you're going to be inbounds all the time, then the T Race might be a better choice, but if you don't want to kill your quads on the up, and frankenstein walk in the lodge/bar, than go for the T1.I forgot my T1's once at Alta, and had to borrow a pair of Garmont Energys, and couldn't get used to them. They felt loose, sloppy, and reminded me of a snowboard boot. They let my feet spread out a little, which was nice, but the performance wasn't there. If you like wearing Birkenstocks, and I know most of us hippies do, the Garmonts might be a better choice. For my money, though, it's all about the Scarpa T1.I formed the liner myself in a 265 F oven, and did a great job. If you're a cheap college ski bum like me, and don't want to take 'em into a shop to get formed, do some research on this first. Most places will form the boot liner for you, though, if you buy them from said shop.
Regarding the plastic
Great boot but agree they do not appear as durable a previous models I have skied on.
I've had four different scarpas over the years. I've discovered that the plastic in the 08\09 t1 is pretty cheap. After just 20 days I rubbed a hole into the boot over my big toe. Scarpa rep told me it's because I've switched to a fatter ski and I'm hitting the boot with my ski. Maybe. However, I'm skiing the same ski I skied with the "bumble bee" and the "bumble bee" held up for 3 years. The plastic in the 08\09 is very soft and you WILL put a hole in the boot.
T1 or T-Race? I am an expert level tele...
T1 or T-Race? I am an expert level tele skier, 6' 210#, and ski in the Pacific NW mainly on Line Prophet 100s, but I also ski the Prophet 130s when the going gets really deep. I am mainly a resort and side-country skier, but I go cat skiing every year, and this yr my buddies finally have their act together and we will be doing some touring.
I have been on Garmont Ener-G's for the last 2 pairs of boots. Last yr's model gave out mid-season - they bulge out at the instep when I put pressure on the tongue. I have had the liners re-formed, but it has not helped.
I am leaning toward the T1's because they seem to be more versatile. Any comments?
T-Race! T-Race! T-Race! I also ski prophet 100s and prophet 130s, with Hammerheads, I' 6'2" and 170lbs. The lack of a touring mode only bothers me when skinning on flats, (uphill your legs are angled forward anyway), but the difference in performance is well worth it. The T-Race rips, especially with big skis like the 130's, and stiffer flexing skis like the 100s. DON'T get the T1, you'll be cheating yourself out of hard-charging grin-inducing turns.
I disagree with Alexander Kilvecka. The T1 is as good as the T Race performance-wise. There may be a very small difference, but not really. The walk mode also makes things a bit more comfortable while walking around the bar mid-day, and at the yurt. I'd say you wouldn't be cheating yourself at all.
I skied the Prophet 100 all year, and did some runs on the 130, and the T1 is more than powerful enough for those planks. For touring, go for the T1.
Jack is on the right track. T-Races are great if you are charging huge lines in bounds all day, or ripping it in the park, but if you ever want to put skins on, or even boot pack, the T-Race will make your life hell. The T1 sounds like a better bet for you.
First descent in the Chugach
Played on some steep lines for 9 days after being dropped off by a fixed wing deep in the Chugach Range AK.
Thank you sir, may I have another?
I've heard people complain that this boot is too tall, too heavy, and/or too stiff for touring, but I beg to differ. Throw them in walk mode and buck up! What's a little discomfort or extra exercise on the way up the mountain when it results in uncompromising power and control on the way down? I've hiked through alpine meadows, across muskeg, through knee-deep mud, for miles on asphalt, and in every snow condition, and the Vibram soles grip on everything! I've skied on T1s for years, and each model gets better than the last. If you want to drive big skis with a traditional tele binding, do it in these boots! (I'm jumping on the NTN bandwagon this year, so I'm hoping that Scarpa figures out how to avoid the problems of the past in this year's model--if they don't, I'll be back in T1s in a heartbeat)
A boot that fits like a glove
With feet that are very prone to blisters, the T1 has a great fit. I have high arches, narrow foot box, and boney heals. The moldable liners give comfortable fit. The boots feel as good after hour 12 as they do when you first put them on. T1s are not the lightest boot, but they drive a fat ski better than their lighter cousins.
Great boot, watch the sizing
I owned the original T1s and decided to upgrade. I am a size 13, which is a mondo 30.5. I found this blog about sizing tele boots: http://www.nstelemark.com/Telemark_Boot_Fitting.html. They basically say forget about the size charts and check your foot in the shell. If you have more than 1cm of room then it is too big. They also say that they should be uncomfortable before you heat fit the liners. Long story short, I also tried a 30, then a 29.5, the later had about a 1cm play in the shell, and were tight but wearable. Spending this amount of dough on some boots, I was a bit nervous. I'd always leaned towards buying my boots a bit bigger, and use socks and inserts to make up the difference. Well, I can say that after heat fitting, and then 4 days of straight resort skiing, they worked out GREAT.
I have only two minor complaints about the boot. There was no boot ring to snap my tether to. And, for some reason the buckles kept taking a nick out of my thumbs. One last tip, it is easy to over tighten these boots, so err on the side of loose.
Also kudos to Backcountry.com for taking back my rejects with free shipping. I would suggest that they really focus on getting sizing feedback on the different brands and providing sizing advice like the link above; so customers can make a better choice up front. For me, I settled on a size 12, when my foot is a size 13.
I bought a pair of T1's from a local...
I bought a pair of T1's from a local discount retailer last year (2007-2008 season)for a really good price. They told me they were an older model - the last run made in Italy before the manufacturing moved to China. They are a black pair of men's T1's w/silver trim. They have 3 buckles and a power strap at the top. My best guess is that they are the 2005 model. Anyway, the liners are coming apart at the seams (of course, because I have skied the living piss out of them.) Anyway, can I order a new set of liners through you? On the back, they say: "Code 10511/Mondo 290."
Check out the website www.gearx.com they have a few really limited sizes for the T1 intuition liners for crazy cheap. Hope that helps.
I bought some T1s online and had to get new T1 liners. I called REI and they placed a special order with Scarpa and had new ones shipped to me. Find a company that deals with Scarpa and they can special order them for you.
A quick question about fit. I have a pair...
A quick question about fit. I have a pair of T1's that I have had for 2 1/2 seasons. The boots fit well everywhere except around the cuff at the the top where my skinny little calves don't take up nearly enough room. I have made all the buckle adjustments and I am still experiencing slop. It gets worse as the day goes on and causes me to cinch down so tight on the power strap that I cut off circulation. If anybody else has had this problem I would love some advice. Anything besides get your skinny little legs in the gym would be welcome. Love the forum, very informative
Go to your local ski shop and see what the boot pros can do with adding shims around the liner cuff. I made a custom home-job for the same issue; it seems all my scarpa boots pre 06 are meant for big calves. however i have not experienced this issue with new scarpa models ive purchased so have faith...
Have you moved the buckles over to accommodate? You can use the hex key provided with the boots (or find a similarly sized one). I also have skinny calves and have added shims. Might be worth a shot.
7 days touring on new Intuition Liner ZERO blisters
I need to add to my prior comment. I just spent 7 days touring in BC 8 hrs a day and I didn't get a single blister. I couldn't be happier with the Scarpa T1 and BD 01 combo. I was a Garmont boot wearer for years and Scarpa's new Intuition liner won me over.
Best boots ever i've ever owned
I have loved these boots from day one. They are stiff, but still let you feel the snow beneath you. Weather you carve hard and fast, or ski the deep pow, these boots do it all. And the look killer, too. If they fit you, buy them.
Intuition Liner is the best ever.
I'm on my 3rd set of boots this season, and I have nothing but good things to say about my T1's. In particular, Scarpa's new Intuition liner is fantastic. I loved it in the Scarpa TX Pro (NTN boot) until I cracked those (warranty - thanks Scarpa!), and once I went back to my old Garmont Squadra's I had been sufficiently spoiled by the Scarpa Intuition liner that I decided to pick up a pair of T1's. Also, back in the day, 5 or 6 years ago, my feet would only fit in Garmont boots. Scarpa boots would crush my toes. Not the case any longer! It seems that with properly molded liners, just about anyone can wear these boots now. Enjoy!