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Lace up the Scarpa Men's Summit GTX Mountaineering Boot for a summer ascent of Mt. Rainier, winter ice and mixed climbing, or spring expeditions to remote peaks. This all-season boot features a Gore-Tex Duratherm lining for full protection and insulation from harsh mountain weather. The Summit's heel and toe welts fit all crampon styles, and an articulated, padded ankle section gives you flexibility without compromising support. When you hit rocky sections, the Vibram sole and rubber rand give you added grip.
Bottom Line: A single boot for all your mountain adventures.
yes you can , it does have a fully rigid outsole which is the same as the Evo, so it not made to go backpacking with but for general Mountaineerin this will work fine.
I completely agree with Zoso. This boot is meant to be abused, and "go up"! Don't expect it to be super comfy as a trail boot. However, when used in any mountaineering setting, the boot shines. It's been the most comfortable for me whenever climbing snow/rock fields, scrambling and kicking steps on steep ascents. Might take some different or strategic lacing practices to dial in the perfect fit. I've had a couple of issues with heel lift, even though I have the perfect size. But, lacing and socks makes a big difference, at least for me. Quality is incredible. I treat with tube nikwax (which smooths the leather and changes the appearance somewhat). The boot dries quickly and is very warm. The Mont Blanc is a bigger volume boot and will fit a wider variety of feet. I really like the fit of the Summit.
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I've had these boots for 6 weeks now and have been breaking them in at work where I do 12HR shifts in an E.R.
I would guess that I have about 20 to 25 miles on them (City miles). I am quite impressed with the comfort and feel of them. The padding around the ankle and tongue really support the ankle very well.
The insulation is very thick too (Compared to my old LS Glacier EVO).
The boot does flex, although it does have a full shank. However, the shank is made of nylon composite which I believe gives it its' limited flexibility. These boots flex enough that I plan on using them for hiking and backpacking, as well as snowshoeing/snow-camping with a sled.
Side note: While wearing these at work and getting funny looks from co-workers, I found out that one of the E.R. doc's I work with is an accomplished climber/mountaineer with over a dozen summits from around the world!
I'm looking for a boot with front and rear welts (for compatibility with the crampons I have), a relatively wide toe-box, (the Asolos and La Sportivas I've owned are painfully narrow for my foot) and a boot that will be good for relatively long approaches. I'm not going to be doing much in the way of vert ice climbing (maybe occasionally) but more glacial traverses and mixed rock/ice/snowfields. Most of the use will be high alpine summertime, tho there will be occasional winter use. Would this boot fit the bill or should I be looking elsewhere. I've had really poor luck with mountaineering boots.
I bought these boots on a whim, since I got a deal on them. My inital impressions were very good. They were warm, comfortable, and certainly stiff enough for the indended purpose of ice climbing. Some people have expressed concern over the durability of the suede upper, but I've had no problems. Granted, my boots haven't spent a lot of time on the rocks just yet.
As time went on I began to notice that I got some pretty serious heel lift in the boots. The first couple climbs of the day were painful when my calves would pump out from trying to compensate for the heel lift. This is, of course, concerning as having calf pump on pitch 3 of 6 is pretty darn miserable. I'm going to try and find a spacer that could fit under the tongue of the boot to push my foot deeper into the heel pocket, but barring that I may have to try a different boot.
However this is no fault of the boot. It's not Scarpa's fault my foot is shaped more like a La Sportiva last. Therefore I still give the boot 4 stars since it's warm, comfortable, and climbs very well. The sole is fairly asymmetrical, so be careful when buying crampons. Some will have trouble fitting on the front toe welt if they are not curved enough to match the boot.
I'm more than pleased with the performance of the boot, especially the waterproofing. If I can nail down the fit then I'm sure the Scarpa Summits will be part of my arsenal for years to come. If you've got a wide-ish foot I would highly reccommend them for all your mountain activities.
UPDATE: I got some 6mm foam shims made from a local shoe shop. They sit on top of my foot and below the tongue in the boot. This helps to shove my foot into the heel pocket and prevent heel list. When I crank down the laces these boots fit like a dream with the shims in them. Heel lift problems are gone!
Firstly, these seem to have been discontinued, but seem to be very similar to the new Mont Blanc.
These boots have turned into my go-to cold-weather adventure boots, but they prefer to go UP. Do not expect these to fill a long approach or too-warm-weather hiking role. Needed an expected amount of break-in. Rubber rand almost makes for decent scrambling, but the shank is just too stiff to be practical for any non-tool scrambling. Durability and craftsmanship could not be better after ~50 days of use this winter.
With all that said, this is a top-notch Lower-48 mountaineering boot. Dries wicked fast; breathes a little; haven't found any compatibility issues with crampons, gaiters. Perfectly waterproof (I regularly treat the suede to prevent soak-in) even while hiking streams and icefalls, or standing around on drill rigs for 12 hours.
You are correct. The Summit has been discontinued and the new Mont Blanc is meant as the replacement boot. Thanks for the review. Sounds like you're getting some good use from your Summits.
Hi. I live in Perth, Western Australia, but am keen to do a mountaineering course over in New Zealand or Nepal. Unfortunately they don't have a wide choice of boots available where I am, so getting the sizing right is going to be a challenge. One shop here does have the Scarpa Freney's and I was wondering if these would make a decent proxy for the summits, as far as size and fit is concerned. I don't really want the Freney's because it would be nice to have something flexible enough to approach with as well (and the Summits seem to fit the bill, from what I have read). Thanks in advance!!
Well, both boots are no longer available (Not made anymore) so whatever you can get your hands on, unless you go a completely different route boot-wise.
Because of my ridiculously wide feet, I always have a hard time finding boots, but these fit me perfectly. The folded up leather over the tongue opens up after a few hours wearing them, making it a lot wider than when you first try it on. The leather upper makes these great for walking compared to plastic boots, so they're much more comfortable for approaches. I tried these out on Mt. Hood, and they worked great. I started getting a blister on my heel, but then added a liner sock and the problem vanished. I was in about 20 degree weather with a mid weight and light weight sock, and my feet didn't even think about being cold. I think they could handle a good deal colder weather. I wear size 10 shoes, and the 43.5's fit me perfectly. The rigid sole is great, and the build quality is absolutely stellar. They're actually made in ITALY! Not China like the details say. Get these boots while they're still here. They're an absolutely solid all purpose mountaineering boot.
The Summits are definitely warmer. I'm actually wearing them right now and my feet are toasty.
The Summits are a much more "hardcore" mountaineering boot than the Charmoz too. If you're looking to tackle vertical ice, I would highly recommend the Summits over the Charmoz.
Purchased these boots a while ago and love them. Very good for climbs below 14K or where you don't need uber-warmth. If you are thinking of climbing something over 6,000 meters, you may want to consider plastic. Don't wear these puppies into the back country strait out of the box, give them some real break-in time clunking around the house or taking the dog for a walk. I wear a 10.5 shoe and the 44s fit fine with a pair of silk liners and thick wool socks. My Sabertooth crampons fit like they were made for this boot but, I would not do any serious ice climbing with these guys. Mixed terrain, good neve, or short ice climbs are what this boot thrives on.
These boots get the job done. The boots have a rigid shank yet will flex enough in the ankle to allow for a relatively easy approach. These boots fit my wide feet much better than the La Sportiva Trango. These boots are extremely tough and fit Petzl Vasak step in crampons well. I'm happy with this purchase.
I'm tried Asolo's and Lowa's mountaineering boots before. The Asolo's had a very narrow toe box while the Lowas fit very well. Which one of these two does Scarpas boots tend to be closer to as far as toe box size?
Scarpas are generally on a wider last. I have duck feet (wide at the toes) and these fit well. Sizes do seem to run a little smaller so you might have to upsize a bit...but everyone is different on how they like the fit. The heel does tend to be full so be careful of heel blisters (not a problem for me but has been for many others). Overall a great boot. I used most recently on a admittedly mild Shasta climb and they were awesome...no blister, no pain, warm, dry...couldn't want more than that.
I have always figured that people who have enough time to write a review aren't getting out, but its raining here today, so what the hell. I have wide duck feet and scarpas fit me perfectly and they have been my footwear of choice for over 20 years. These new summit gtx's are amazingly light and nimble. I actually climbed a short 5.8 with them and they are great on ice. My buddies have always had trouble keeping up, but now they will only be watching my ass high above them.
Write your question here...For general mountaineering, how would these boots (Scarpa Summit) compare with the LA Sportiva Glacier model? Would the half shank in the Glaciers present a problem on steeper snow/rock?
Bought these to supplement my old Alphas' (9/10 shell) and I'm not disappointed. Size is fairly accurate. I wear a size 9M steel toe workboot and 8.5 Vasque hiker. I tried a 9, 9.5 and 10, staying with the 9.5 with 1 heavy sock. The 9 was a vise. The 10 needed to much filler (2 socks and an SF insole) to snug it, taking away the precise feeling I want. I expect minimal leather stretch but more compression of the insulation as it's very soft inside. I have good movement of my toes, no toebox slam, or heel lift both walking or front pointing so they're great out of the box. They fit my Sabertooths like they were made for each other. Kicking is different though as now I feel everything and have wonder if my points are set, the Alphas dulled that sensation. They handled scrambling well, holding tight while jamming and edging. I've been out in near zero temperatures and they seem fine with one heavy sock, but I was standing for short periods in moderate New England snow pack. I did replace the laces, they were thin and dug into my fingers when tightening down. They fit my foot type better then Nepals, and the price is right so I'm satisfied.
Winni, did you replace the laces with round or flat ones? I've heard round laces tend to slacken off after a while, but I'm not sure if this is true. Have you run across that issue?
Despite breaking these boots in on several hikes in the adirondacks, when I went on the "real trip" (Berg Lake Trail B.C.) and had a heavy load these boots gave me severe blisters on my heels (this despite prophylactic moleskin and two layers of socks.) They also developed a nagging pressure point under my left big toe that got worse over time. The boots are actually way too soft in the ankle. Contrary to the company blurb, while the ankles are flexible support is compromised. They are really useless for front-pointing.
Sounds like either you wore boots that were waaaay too big or you didn't lace them up enough.
I'm in the middle of breaking these boots in right now and I know what you mean.
But you have to take the time and energy to break them in, experiment with sock combo's, footbeds, and lacing tricks. I spent almost a year experimenting with my La Sportiva Gacier EVO's before the stitching starting coming apart. That's why I got the Summits as a replacement (Great Backcountry.com return policy!!).
How does the Summit fit compared to the Charmoz with respect to volume? The Charmoz fits me perfectly and uses Scarpa's low volume FT last. Scarpa's website says that the DL last used for the Summit has a higher volume. Is it significantly higher, or just moderately higher to accommodate thicker mountaineering socks for colder weather?
A 10 to a 10.5.I don't know how high you are going to climb . Pete , remember that you will also be at lower altitudes on the approach . I do not regard the summit as a high altitude boot . Scarpa has special boots for 6000 metre plus peaks . I wear one 1/2 US size bigger than my shoe size . My shoe size is 11 1/2 and I wear a 12 in scarpa boots , this allows for two pairs of warm socks . If you are going to climb at 20,000 feet in winter you need to look at Scarpa high Altitude boots that come with an attached gaiter for added warmth.
I am not sure what the temperature rating is, but the lining is not removable.Bonnie , if you want to wear these in the lower 48 states for winter you should be fine . You must make sure that you wear two pairs of warm socks .The summits will also be good for long approaches in the summer in the California Sierra . If your plans include Alaska , you should consider a plastic boot designed for colder weather . On a scale of 1 - 10 , 10 being the warmest boots available I would rate the Summits as a 7 . The Scarpa Inverno plastic boot is a better winter boot for technical ice and general cold weather here in California . How warm ones feet are is obviously very subjective . I hope this helps .Simon in Joshua Tree .
Yes.I have used my summits at Lee Vining Canyon and found them to be good on the ice there . The ice there is anywhere from 60 to 89 degrees in angle .These boots do flex a bit as they are a general mountaineering boot . Plastic boots do not generally flex but are much heavier .
How does the sizing run on these boots? I wear a size 13 in almost every shoe, and measure out to between a 46.5 and 47 on the Euro brannock. What size should I get?
I have found these boots to run very true to size. In my opinion I'd shoot for a size 13, which is a 47 in these boots. Hope that helps.I am a US size 11 1/2 in shoe size . I like my Scarpa boots to be a 46 which is size 12 US , this lets me wear two pairs of socks . Eben , you must physically try on a pair of scarpa boots to learn your size .I once ordered three pairs of the same boot from Backcountry , I sent back the 2 wrong sizes and had a credit on my credit card way before any payment was due . I paid about $ 15 to ship them back , but it was much cheaper than driving to the nearest store ( 90 miles ) .