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The Scarpa Men's Spirit 4 Alpine Touring Boots blend freeride performance with classic alpine touring weight and comfort and are compatible with all AT bindings, including Dynafit. This freeride-oriented AT boot uses four buckles and a dual-density shell for optimum power transmission yet includes a hinged tongue for easy forward-flex while touring. Scarpa gave the Spirit 4 Boot a heel retention system for solid heel hold. For the really steep stuff, swap out the regular tongue for the included, super stiff ski tongue and experience even more driving power. Scarpa's Intuition Precision High inner boot uses medical-orthotic foam for a super comfy, supportive fit.
Bottom Line: Light on the way up and still burly on the way down.
Just ordered Spirit 4's in a 24.5 and the shell fit seems right but am wondering about the liners. They are snug with no space between the liner and my toes but they don't feel like they're squeezing my feet. Will heat molding shrink the liner or just contour to my foot? Do I need to exchange for 25's to get the bigger liner? Also, can anyone recommend a bootfitter in SLC area to heat mold these and possibly work on the shells in case I experience some of the fit problems w/Scarpas? I had a pair of Denali's that I sold because by the end of the day I felt like I had been walking on tennis balls. Want a good backcountry boot so I am willing to have these worked on if need be. Thanks for the heip...
The heat molding process will basically form fit the liner to your foot, so I think you are okay keeping the 24.5. In general an unmolded boot should feel very snug, so that once it is molded if fits perfectly. As long as your in the proper shell you will be fine.
As my first touring boot, I was blown away by how different these felt than my previous alpine boots. They're very comfortable and light when compared to their beefier counterparts and make a great touring boot for short to moderate length tours. I've been using these for over two years now and they've performed well in the situations I've thrown at them. On the up they articulate well and have a good range of motion for a easier stride. Also, having the toe tech fittings mounted a bit rearward than "normal" does make a difference and feels nicer and more natural in stride. The articulated green tongue aids in comfort when touring and is sufficiently stiff on the down. For resort/sidecountry days I'll slip the black, stiffer tongue in for added support and running the groomers. The Intuition liners are top notch and very comfortable. Once mine were dialed in, I haven't had a problem with the fit on these in the two years I've abused them. The liners are also very warm! Often my boots end up like saunas in these boots while touring, but the liners do a good job of keeping moisture at a reasonable level inside as to not make your feet freeze when you stop moving and keep you pretty toasty when sitting around camp. The plastic grippy coating on the bottom of the liners is a nice touch and lets you wear them around camp as booties after you're done touring for the day. All in all I've been happy with the spirit 4s and I'd recommend them to anyone looking for a touring boot that doesn't compromise much on the downhill but still comes in lighter than other beef AT boots out there.
Yes, it's compatible w/ any AT binding including Dynafit. It is not compatible with standard DIN/ISO bindings, presumably because of the rockered sole. AT bindings allow you to adjust the hieght of the toe clamp, whereas alpine bindings do not.
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Midway through my second season in these, now, skiing them all over Western Canada, and in Switzerland, France, and Italy. I use them for everything - hut trips, camping, working races, ski mountaineering. They're good all around, fit well (roomy), tighten up and lock down efficiently, and are reasonably comfortable on long or involved uptracks. I like their shape and flex, and the fact that they're higher in the larger sizes (some boots seem to be sized such that they only become larger in the length of the sole as the size goes up, rather than sized in a truly scalar fashion). I put duct tape on one of the liners for the first time the other week, to cover stitching torn stomping them into the shell in dark boot rooms. The canting bolts/collars seem to drift with use and flex, but they're easy enough to tighten back to their original position with the key provided. That's about it - a step above what was available even a couple of years ago. Nice.
This boot is not compatible with a standard alpine binding. It will work with any alpine touring binding. If you need something that works with an alpine binding check out the Scarpa Typhoon
Great features and adaptability. This boot has been great for cold and mild tours. The cant and lean adjustments are great for those of us with not-so-perfect feet. I've fiddled with them a bit to try to get the perfect fit and am almost there. I regretted not opting for the three buckle Spirit 3, but the 4 is proving plenty light enough and with the black tongue, it's plenty stiff. These boots made me forget how tough my alpine boots were to put on.
I just got this in Mondo 27. wow. amazing feel. only not for my feet. the boot was too tight on the instep (ooo, look at the pretty ballet feet showing me what my instep is: http://www.the-perfect-pointe.com/FootDiagramExplanations.html). anyways, I'm an advanced skier lookin to get into touring for the first time, any boot recommendations that are similar to a Spirit 4 (or not, whatever) but will fit my wide foot and (apparently) high instep???
I have (from what I gather) very similar feet to you. Crazy high instep, wide forefoot, and very prominent ankle bones to boot. After trying on a few AT boots and asking an expert bootfitter, I settled on these. First of all, I took out the bootboard -- instant improvement. For the wide aspect, take them to a reputable bootfitter and have them stretched. After a few hours of work, mine feel every bit as good (better?) than my alpine boots. Seeing as this is an old thread maybe you've already made your decision, but if not hopefully this helps.
Don't give up yet. The Spirit 4 has a removable boot board that will give you more room for your instep. Once you pull it out (underneath the liner) and add an EVA insert in the heel you'll have a lot more room for your high instep and wider feet.
Love the feel, love the liners, love the stability, love the leisure when walking. Put some superfeet RedHot liners in and these are AWESOME!Best boot for the money!
FYI: I usually take a 10.5 mens, and the Scarpa 27 fits well.
I have been using my scarpa denali at boots with alpine bindings for over 12 years. I have not been injured nor have I had any close calls. The bindings have released without any problems. I use them daily for free skiing and race work. I love them. Throughout the years, I was told the same thing, that they are not compatible, but went ahead anyway. I won't change!
Its possible, but not recommended..These are not designed to release under the ISO DIN specifications. These should be used in a Dynafit or A.T compatible binding...for other information scroll down and read what Rob De Luca wrote.
Got these at the end of last year, and have loved the fit ever since. The liner is both comfortable and warm, and the boot is lightweight and supportive. I have been using them at the resort with the black tongues, and they ski great (just a little less responsive than my alpine boots). With the interchangable tongues, th 4 buckles, and the power strap, I can make them as flexible or almost as stiff as I would like. Great boot all around!
As a recent convert to AT, I am more than pleasantly surprised by these boots. So light and responsive, while being super comfy. The magazine reviews complain of the buckles, but I think the reviewers need some occupational therapy. I think the buckles are perfectly fine. They are extremely easy to switch from the ski/walk modes. I am 5'7" 175 lbs, and ski aggressively. After alpine skiing my entire life, I would recommend these boots to anyone - veteran and beginner alike. I have a very wide foot and high instep, usually struggle with heel slippage. These almost feel custom fit, before the heat molding. If you weigh more than 175, and are more aggressive, you might want a beefier boot. A few times they felt a little soft. 100% satisfied with my purchase.
Hey guys Have had serious injury to right tib fib - no anterior tibialis and thus limited muscle in front of shin to ankle. Hence need ability to pehraps put in thicker tongue on one boot. Also lightest boots with strongest flex. Have seen Hurricanes (Scarpa) looke dgoon - any other suggestiosn? Garmont etc. Any help much appreciated. thanks
First run first day and the plastic cracked on the toe, causing the female metal fitting for dynafit binding to break. Sent back to Scarpa over two weeks ago and still cannot get an answer from them VERY DISAPPOINTED. Should have bought from Backcountry, they stand behing their product even in front of companies!
I love Scarpa boots but not how they do their sizing. On the Scarpa box it says size 28.0 / USA Mens size 9 This is not even close and to further complicate matters Scarpa mondo sizing is different than other manufacturers mondo sizing - Scarpa catalog says a 28.0 is a US MENS size 11; but if you goolge ski boot mondo sizing other published charts will show a 28.0 as a US Mens size 10. Very confusing to say the least ... I found out the hard way. Scarpa catalog is correct as far as I'm concerned.
because of a high arch, i'm in a 28.5 shell despite a foot length that i could get into a 27.5. the numbering is suspect, or unique at best. get your foot into them to be sure and be prepared to try a couple of shell sizes. i ended up trying 3 different sizes before getting it right
I disagree. i wear a 25.5 or 26 in every boot (depending on where the shell size breaks for that particular brand) and I wear a 26 in this boot. Measure your foot with a centimeter ruler and that measurement should be pretty close to what your Mondo size should be. It really doesn't matter what your "street shoe" size is because those are all over the place. Mondo sizing is centimeters.
the box is not misprinted, Scarpa's sizing is just all f'ed up. I wear a size 12 street shoe and wear a 28.5 in standard mondo sizing, which correlates to a 10.5 US mens (I size down as much as possible). I just bought a pair of 28.5 Scarpas and had to send them right back. They were at least a size too big, and as I've discovered, Scarpa's sizing model runs exactly one full size larger than standard mondo. Don't have any idea why, but if you traditionally run a 28.5, or whatever, try a full size down in the Scarpa.
I use the Spirit 4s in a 28.0, and I usually wear an 11 (US) in street shoes. However, my box is also mislabeled as a "US 9." My experience is limited, but I find the sizing similar to my previous Garmont Argons, maybe a touch larger.
Where are these boots made? The info for the 2007 model says that they are made in China, but the info for the current model says they are made in Italy. Which is right?
I got my scarpa spirit 4 last season. I just love these boots. Their great for touring the wasatch range!! They kick ass!! I've got over 70 days on them now! And their still helping me killing those powder turns
If you're referring to the Dynafit toe fittings, some of Scarpa's Dynafit-compatible boot line has an intentionally offset pivot point to improve your stride while touring. The Spirit 4, Skookum, Spirit 3, Diva, and Sprite are 4mm back from standard, and instructions for mounting are included in the manual.
I have a pair of these boots, which I love because they are so comfortable. I really want to ski them with a new pair of skis I got, but don't want to throw down the big bucks for touring bindings (I already have a pair on my other skis). I am just looking for any binding that would fit this boot (safely), and are a little more affordable. Any suggestions?Thanks!
If you're looking for "safely" you're pretty much stuck getting touring bindings. The thick sole w/ rubber on AT boots means that if you jam them into a binding not designed for it you can no longer trust the release.
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I have a pair of atomic bindings, not sure what model, but they're on a rail system. The toe piece is hight adjustable and does just barely fit my touring bindings.
These boots are the bomb. They are warm comfortable and good for anything. I used to ski in a race boot, so initially they were a little soft, but with the stiffer tongue it only took half a day to get over the novelty and another half a day to fall in love. No more bruised shins, although I did get some nice blisters on my back country trip (note: avoid jacuzzis with open blisters unless you enjoy penecilin). Otherwise a great boot and in my opinion a great looking one as well.
I currently ski the Scarpa Matrix, a very soft 3 buckle boot. I am looking for a stiff, but not super stiff, 4 buckle boot that has good forward lean. Any recommendations? Specifically regarding the BD Method or the Scarpa Spirit 4?
It depends on what you are looking for in a touring boot really.I have the Scarpa Spirit 4s and the Scarpa Tornado Pros. The Spirit 4 is now my touring boot though I had used it up till today for everything including the resort. They are a little flexy for my liking, but, they are a touring boot, what do you expect? :-)The Scarpa Tornado Pro is a straight alpine sole (as opposed to the rockered sole of the Spirit 4) and is more "geared" towards resorts where you will be hiking and slack and side country. Not to say you could not use them as a straight touring boot, but, there are better options if that is what you are soley looking for.The Black Diamond boots...meh. :-/ I tried them on...wasn't that impressed with them. Then again, I NEVER skied them, so that doesn't mean much if anything at all. I tried the Factors on as well and for my foot both left a lot to be desired. I have heard RUMORS (stressing rumors here...no first hand knowledge) that thy walk/ski mode pin has been breaking in a few of the Black Diamond boots. I would be surprised if it was true, as BD normally has awesome quality in their products. But....Also, it depends on your foot. The Spirit 4/Tornado Pro is geared more towards wider feet and collapsed arches. The Black Diamond line is a little narrower but still should heat mold out if you need them to. Also, the Scarpas come with Intuition liners (not sure about the BDs) and I feel this liner is flat out the best on the market right now! Get them heat molded at a boot fitting professional and you will have the most comfy boots you ever have had.Let me know if you have anymore questions. :-)
Ok, these boots are awesome, but, they DO take some teaking to get them right where you need them in terms of fit. First, measure your foots length in terms of centimeters. Place a piece of paper against a wall, then, place your heel against the same wall and slowly put your foot down on the piece of paper. You want to BE SURE that the paper is flush with the wall, or else, your sizing could be off. Then, mark the end of your longest toe and measure the length in centimeters. This is nowhere near as accurate as shell fitting, but, if you are looking here at Backcountry, you can't shell fit, now can you. The volume can be tricky to take care of. Once I got mine, I saw a professional boot fitter and got custom footbeds made and that was that. Great boots, great touring mode...top notch all around.
I've got very wide forefeet and very skinny ankles and wanted to pack out the heel area of my Spirit 4s, or add a bit of padding over the top of my foot. (I can lift my heel very slightly inside the boot). My local boot fitter seems to be clueless when it comes to these boots / Intuition liners, so does anyone know where I can buy some kind of product for this purpose so that I can go it alone?
Packing out, or punching a boot is exactly what you want to do to a boot that fits in length but not in volume. There's not much you can do to a boot thats too big, because the liner will eventually pack out on its own and your foot will be dangerously swimming inside a too large of boot. Mold the liners first and see if that accomodates your foot volume. You can do that yourself, in the oven, just find a tutorial vid on youtube or elsewhere on the web. Now punching a boot, or enlarging the volume of a shell should probably be left to a bootfitter, so you don't ruin the boot, but a heatgun and the back of a screwdriver should do the trick.
Intuition liner is heat moldable. so try that first with a proper boot warming device. Also you may go to any pharmacy and get a heal cup... a soft rubbery insert that only covers the heal, but may give you a little lift. they only cost $5. start there, maybe even try a slightly thicker sock. and a word of caution: where I'm from "packing out" the boot's liner means that you're essentially making the inside of the boot larger... which is NOT what you want to do.
Bought these boots for use with dynafit, so incredible. Lightweight yet durable enough to use with dynafits for resort groomers the past few weeks. Wouldn't necessarily pay full price though because I did buy them used at the UAC sale but still an incredible boot. Also works very well with regular alpine bindings. Downside though is I would put their flex at somewhere around 80 or 90. I do not have the other cuff that comes with it, but if you are used to racing, and having superior ski control, I would consider a little bit more burly boot
The Spirit 4's may click into alpine (ISO DIN) bindings, but skiing in them is a bad idea. The rockered Vibram sole and thin toe are not designed to meet ISO DIN release specs, and thus you run the risk of pre-releasing or staying locked in during a twisting fall. You should use either Dynafit bindings, AT bindings like Naxo or Fritschi, or the Marker Duke or Baron with the toes adjusted to fit an AT sole.
As my first touring boot, I was blown away by how different these felt than my previous alpine boots. They're very comfortable and light when compared more...
Midway through my second season in these, now, skiing them all over Western Canada, and in Switzerland, France, and Italy. I use them for everything - more...