Take the next step up a steep and icy face when you slide your feet in the rugged Phantom 6000.
- The tough S-tech upper’s rubber rand holds up to the abuse any frozen mountain dishes out
- Toe and heel plastic rands secure your crampons as you begin a climb into the heavens
- Waterproof liner is beefed up with a layer of EVA foam and heat-reflective aluminum to keep the warm air inside
- Insole and midsole cushion your steps while staying sensitive enough to feel each foothold before you take the next
- Vibram Mulaz outsole grips the rocks and snow as you approach the icefall
- Ergofit System stretches in the ankle for a dynamic fit for aggressive ice climbers and mountaineers
- Removable Mountain Lite liner lets you dry the sweaty liners in your sleeping bag on longer expeditions to keep them fresh and unfrozen
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I felt really good about these boots right out of the box. Before these boots I was clunking around in heavy Invernos so these felt great. Light and reasonably comfortable to walk in, but seem stiff enough for technical ice, and they fit perfectly with my BD Saber Tooths. First time out, I took them out on a 12 mile slog (2k ft of elv. gain) through snow and ice @ 20 F with moderate winds. They are defiantly warm (below tree line, I unzipped the gaiters my feet were so warm). After a few miles I did notice some heel lift and heal hot spots. By the end of the hike my feet were pretty beat up. After getting home and drying them out (mostly from sweat, the gaiters work well) I noticed that the stock foot-beds are pretty flimsy. I decided to give them another try with some green Superfeet and sock liners to take up some extra volume and mitigate some of that heal lift. I tried this configuration on my second hike, about 4 miles of level terrain through deep snow and again around 20 F, and my feet felt fine afterwards. Even tough the chewed my feet up initially I'm giving them 4 stars because i think they still have potential to be great boots with the after market liners. I'll have to put them trough the wringer to know for sure.
Originally bought the La Sportiva Batura 2.0's, but the heal on them was way too tight and the tongue on those boots cut into my foot. Returned them and bought these for Liberty Ridge on Rainier (will be doing in the next few months). Wore them on 17 mile hikes to break them in and then for Notch Couloir on Longs Peak.What I have to say is that they are incredibly comfortable for being triple boots. Cold was never a problem in the sub-freezing temps (20s F). Will revise review after Rainier, and planning on wearing these on Denali in the next couple years as well.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Bought these for several trips. Worked great on Aconcagua (downright toasty on summit day, crampons all day). Taking to Denali next. Much better than my old Koflachs: lighter, more comfortable, and much less problem with liner absorbing sweat. Will take overboots to Denali but may not need. Huge fan of these boots.
Looking for something for up to -40c static with 30-40mph winds , would they withstand normaly or montblack or phantom guide will do aswell? i assume liner will do its job to 0f while moving or so but havent seen any reviews on -40 -50c if anyone used them on these tempretures please share experience
Once you're talking about temperatures that extreme, don't play games with your toes. Plan for the worst case scenario, and look into a boot designed for 8000m peaks.
My gut says you might be fine with this when weather cooperates, but if the weather turns on you, you'd be in trouble.
How do these compare to Baturas 2.0 in terms of warmth and ankle support?
Fernando - word is that the Phantom 6000 is a double boot that climbs like a single (and really weighs about the same as a single). You don't have the feeling of being way up high that you get on the Batura 2.0, and that contributes to a bit more stability for climbing or when wearing crampons.
In terms of warmth, many of the very best cold weather boots do two things to eliminate weight and make the boots warmer. They use a hard foam insole/midsole to help insulate from the ground up. They also make the lug pattern and sole as thin as possible, again to save weight. Scarpa uses both techniques on the 6000 and I think to good effect on this boot.
Check out this link for the full review with some comparison to the Batura:
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Warm. Light. So comfortable! Those in La Sportiva Baruntses complained that their boots were, "filled with buckets of water" and my feet were bone dry! These things are the most comfortable double boot I've ever worn -- no shin bang, no blisters, no discomfort with thousands of feet of french technique (OK, maybe just a bit!)
Pluses: The tizip zipper seems robust and really does keep water out! Simple lacing system. Comfortable (if they fit you well). Climb remarkably well for a double boot.
Minuses: The liner is thin and looks a bit chintsy...but so far, it's held up great! I'll probably replace it with an intuition liner as soon as it wears out.
I normally wear a 48 but sometimes a 47 is good. If I order 47s and they are too small, can I return them?
I live in Seattle and could not find a local store with them in stock.
Backcountry has an awesome return policy. If you're unsatisfied, just send it back. However, you do have to pay for shipping.
How do these walk?
I've owned vasque leather single boots for ages and I love how they hike and ice climb, but they are cold.
I've owned Koflach Arc Exp boots and they killed my shins after just 2 miles approaching the ice.
Has anyone walked on flat ground for a few miles in these? If so what was your experience?
BTW cold tistle blog was a great read. Dane was really exact in his review, but this question remains. He said " The 6000 is light in weight and easy to walk in." I guess I'm looking for a second opinion. Here in Idaho you hike a few miles to get to the ice, and I'd like to not take two pairs of boots with me.
If Dane says they're easy to walk in, I'd take his word for it. He knows his stuff, and he beats the snot out of it. If you're desperate for a second opinion though, check out goaao.com. They're the midwest distributor for Scarpa, and I believe Brian Block climbs with Phantom 6000s, so you can email him about them.
Tried on the LS Spantik, LS Baruntse, and Scarpa Phantom 6000. I found that the 6000 fit my med to low arched feet the best. I initially liked the spantiks but couldn't get a decent fit, lots of heel lift, and was turned off by the funky lacing system. I wear a 46-46.5 in scarpa approach shoes and went with the 47 in the 6000.
I recently used them on some moderate ice climbs in the San Juan Mountains and was a little apprehensive about climbing in doubles instead of my LS Nepal Extremes. I really enjoyed climbing in the 6000 and didn't feel at all like they were holding me back, it doesn't feel like you are climbing in a big clunky double boot, the super gaiter is awesome, they felt super toasty, The lacing system and the espcially the power strap are great. Like someone suggested, I backed up the speed lace buckle with a reef knot to hold it in place and keep the laces from loosening.
Dane's reviews were really helpful in figuring out all the boot debating. Thanks Dane! I noticed that the Palau liners for the Baruntse did in fact work pretty well as a liner for the 6000. For me, it seemed the 45.5-46 Palua sized liner was comprable in size to the 47 stock liner for the 6000. I definitely noticed that with the palau liners the 6000 turned into a stiffer and more supportive boot.
Warmer then most boots I have owned but sturdy and the aggressive built of these shoes work really well when you want to move fast.
Two things...use these boots, the Scarpa Phantom 6,000's and put in a pair of toe warmers. In this short video I demonstrate.
I tried the Phantom guides in a shop and the size 43 was perfect. However I'm afraid the Guides will not be warm enough for me and I'd like to try the 6000's but nobody carries them here (Montreal). How does the fit compare between these two boots?
Fit will be very similar. I would suggest you get the size 43 in the Phantom 6000
These boots Scarpa Phantom 6000 Mountaineering Boot - Men's come with OUT-DRY?
Yes, the waterproof lining is Outdry. The Scarpa North American site doesn't list Outdry, or at least I couldn't find it. However, if you go to the Scarpa UK site (scarpa.co.uk), they mention the use of Outdry. These two markets are different, but I believe that technology should hold true across both. Thanks.
I'm trying to decide between size 41 and 42 in these boots. I usually wear a size 7.5 or 8 US street shoe. My feet measure 10 1/8" long with climbing socks on.
Does anyone know what the insole dimensions are for this boot in a 41 or 42? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
i have several pairs of Scarpa's. 42 equates to a size 9, 43 a size 10. i can't speak of the smaller sizes. but The Grouch is right try them on to be sure.
What would be a good replacement liner for these? I'm not thrilled with the stock liner.
The Baruntse liner available as a spare from La Sprtiva works well in the 6000.
How does sole stiffness on this compare with the spantik. I've heard it's a bit soft. I'm usually a 44-45 so if it's too soft it can certainly be tiring on a long day. My spantiks gave me achilles tendonitis so I'm hoping to find something to replace them with. Any help out there? Open to suggestions... Baruntse doesn't fit, and I don't want the bulk of an olymon, but I still want a double boot.
Full review here: