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Power is liberating.

The lightweight Scarpa NTN Freedom Binding blazes uphill and bombs down. With wide-degree walk mode and two climbing-wire sizes, the Freedom loves to hike; with standard 110mm brake width for fat skis, it rips through untracked terrain. Free your heel and fuel the freshie obsession.

  • Stainless steel and plastic construction delivers lightweight strength
  • More forgiving and forward flex than the Freeride model
  • 60-degree free-pivot opening angle for easy hiking motion
  • Two climbing wire heights, 35mm and 65mm
  • Comes standard with 110mm ski brakes, perfect for your fatties
  • Item #SCR0250

Tech Specs

Material
stainless steel, plastic
Boot Compatibility
NTN
Release
yes
Brake Width
110 mm
Stand Height
25 mm
Climbing Bars Included
yes
Climbing Bar Height
35 mm, 65 mm
Claimed Weight
[pair] 3 lb 4.9 oz
Recommended Use
freeride, telemark touring
Manufacturer Warranty
1 year

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CHECK YOUR RELEASE!

    I would urge any owner to put these on a bench vice with your boots on and manually try to rip the boot off, may need to use an iron bar in the boot. You may be amazed at how hard it is to pull off at the weight recommended settings. I was supposed to be at 2 or 3 based on weight, ski shop set them at 4. A gremlin under the snow in a glade trapped my ski and my foot rotated counter-clockwise 90 degrees or so on a fixed leg. Ligaments pulled on the fibula (outside ankle) bone enough to break it. I will err on the side of lower tension/easier release now, don't want to miss half the ski season ever again. I may not be so lucky to avoid surgery next time. The fact that I will still ski NTN, despite this and my huge love for my 75mm memories, proves how amazing the NTN performs for both up and downhill. I just need to make sure they can release on the bench, health has to come first.
    That aside I can't imagine that this binding design could be improved upon dramatically in the next decade as far as downhill performance and touring. Yes, the M binding and the Tele Tech are a tiny bit lighter. But toughen up, a little more weight =s little better workout. Pain is good, not bad. Only the slowest, weakest, least fit, lowest pain tolerance in your group should have, or want the lightest gear. This tours amazing and feels super light, and no one will say that the TT or M binding can power skis down anywhere near as well as these do. So it is the same on the uphill if you have decent fitness and are not in the Olympics counting milliseconds, and skis twice as good downhill vs. those two, in my opinion. When this gets ISO Certified Relase- 5 Stars easy. 4.5 now.

    BINDING LIMITATIONS

      Performance of the Freedom NTN is convincing when in cold weather. In the Pacific Northwest heavy wet snows get compressed underfoot in the Freedom NTN binding. This cumulate of snow acts as progressive high heels. It does require stopping and cleaning out. On cold days (cold snow) the snowball packing does not occur. Snow accumulation has problems elsewhere in the binding ... such as under the tab that activates tour mode. When snow builds up there the ability to lock in tele -mode is not solid. The result --> at the peak of pressure on a turn the binding pops into tour mode. The location in front of the binding is difficult to access so cleaning that obstructive snow is almost impossible, at least in the field. Snow compression underfoot is so thorough that the proprietary ski brakes get locked (iced) in the up position, very bad news if there is a binding release and the brakes do not deploy. Lastly, today the stainless steel spring-clip which is responsible for tensioning the cable to actuate the underfoot NTN clamp, that spring-loaded clip popped out of the holes in the black tensioning lever. This rendered the binding completely useless until reset. With gloves off I could get one side of the clip into the lever, the other side required one hand to locate, a ski pole tip was the fulcrum to get the un-mated end into the opposite hole. I really needed that fulcrum. 5 minutes, no prayers, but Lucky. I have considered threading the spring loaded clip so that a collar can screw onto it and never allow the clip to pop out. If you can't get it back in in the field the walk is long, and like Frost's STOPPING BY A TREE ON A SNOWY NIGHT, "miles to go before I sleep".

      Not the New Telemark Norm

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      In my opinion, the flex and flex point of ntn bindings and boots are giving the telemark turn a new but a bad name. Is it more powerful? Maybe. Ease and releasability? Definitely. But what you might gain power and ease of use you lose in turn flexibility and feel. There is fine line between power, turn feel and flexibility. Make sure you demo both traditional set ups and ntn. My hope is that this movement can gain greater power with increased feel and turn flexibility. Sorry but in my opinion we have lost something essential to the telemark turn while trying to move forward with research & design.

      99%

      • Familiarity: I've used it several times

      71 in, 211 lbs, tele for 3 years. Mounted on 193 Nordica Patrons and 180 Moment Tahoes. CRISPI EVO NTN boots.

      I have been using the NTN Freeride for 2 years. First day out I hated them. It was also my first day out on my shiny new Patrons in 8 inches of PNW rain/snow. I think it was the skis fault, later on I set the base to 1 and the side to 2 and took them out in the east, not perfect but I had set them at 5 thinking I needed power. Ended up setting them to 3 or 4 and have been quite pleased. Not sure if the issue was the tune, the skis or me, but they are my every day binding now.

      They do trap snow when touring, and pink lever can get gummed up and I try to treat them with respect.

      Skiing-I like them better then the freerides, they have a little more angle to them I suppose. If you knee to the ski they may pop into tour mode.

      Tour mode-Pretty easy, I like the ROM and the 2 bail heights.

      Cons-Drilling 11 holes into your ski, no plate (like the freeride). I have them mounting with binding freedom so I can mount STH 14's alpine (so in total 22 holes or something) is a big commitment.

      Nearly the Holy Grail Is Right

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      I skied these bindings really hard this winter. I have two of these bindings mounted, one on 184 Moment Deathwishes (112 under foot) and one on 180 Icelantic Gypseys. I switched from Scarpa T-Races to the Scarpa TX-Comps. I feel like it is a pretty comperable setup in terms of strength and stiffness, but is a full 2 lbs lighter! I toured, booted and skied inbounds a lot with both. The quasi step-in system is nice, but the big points for me are having a brake and the lateral release. Both these features work well, and I've only had a ski come off when I wanted it to. My only gripes are that there is not a full free pivot in the touring mode, and the base plate is plastic and can crack/chip.

      Totally sold, not sure I will ever go back to 75mm again. It can be expensive to get into, but worth it for the NTN.

      good bindings but not durable

      • Familiarity: I've used it several times

      I have been skiing the Freedom's for two seasons now. I have used them for both in bound and touring in the woods. I have about 65-70 days on these bindings total. I have serious concerns with the durability of these bindings. I have broken two of these bindings to date while in groomed trails. Each time the steel mounting plate cracked causing the bindings to lose all spring tension and lock up in touring mode. The local shop replaced the bindings the first time they cracked and the second set of new bindings has cracked in the same place. Rotofella touts them as being step in bindings. They are not even close to being step in bindings. I am using Crispi boots and you have to force the boot into the toe basket while pinning the ski down with your poles. With a little practice you can pin the ski down and slam the boot into the basket in one motion but they are not step in bindings. I am very pleased with how they ski. I am just not impressed with their durability.

      I completely agree. I've only used these for one season. Theres a little soft plastic shim in the toe piece that fell out when I was trying to get into my skis on a 35 degree coulier. That sucked. I have pit marks on my top sheets from having to chop the ice out from under and around the tour mode. Today I used them for the first time of their second season and the little blue plastic cap popped off the springs. Now It takes two hands for me to be able to open my bindings and I guess I can't adjust the spring tension without some vice grips. Seriously thinking of sending these things back. NTN is sweet, but holy crap, for a backcountry binding these things are just not trustworthy. I think I'm going to return them, patch 20 some odd holes, and then try out the new 22 designs Outlaw

      Nearly the holy grail?

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      Quasi step in, brakes, a release mechanism and a fairly reliable history make this the perfect binding for inbounds and sidecountry use. Those logging serious vertical might be jealous of the lighter weight and free pivot of the faithful old switchbacks or TTS systems.

      On the downhill I have one gripe which is that the ramp angle is bizarre - the heel is actually lower than the ball of foot, and this makes it hard to keep your weight forward. Not a deal breaker as a 6mm shim under the heel and thin shim on the underfoot pink bit resolved this issue for me. One other minor gripe is that I find the binding has an amount of play before the springs kick in lifting the heel and the overall feel is a little too neutral for my tastes... if you like to active bindings such as the HH on pos 3 or higher then this will feel a bit more neutral.

      For most people this is going to be the perfect, reliable/do it all binding.

      Good and Bad

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      I'm in my second year of using these both for touring and lift served runs. They take a bit of getting used to after 75mm but they are miles better in terms of stability. For touring, the big disadvantage is inability to fit ski crampons. Otherwise, skinning is good. Only one serious problem and I've seen this reported elsewhere is that the bindings have never released for me and I've had one or two tumbles where I would like them to have done. I'm using the recommended release settings for my weight - any ideas welcome. I use Scarpa Terminator X boots which are brilliant and great for touring and Movement Logic Skis.

      Different release mechanism

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      I hit a rock while skiing at moderate speed through a low angle glade, the result is shown in the picture. The alu base snapped at the toe bail connection. I own several pairs of these now and unfortunately this is the only pair I didn't buy from backcountry. I've been waiting for over a month for the store where I bought them to get it fixed under warranty from Scarpa.

      Moral of the story....................

      ............... buy them from backcountry, they would have had a new pair to me 3 weeks ago.

      I still really like the binding, if you use anything a lot there are bound to be some wear and tear issues.

      I'll give the binding 3*

      Backcountry return policy 5*

      Hence the average of 4*

      Different release mechanism

      I had another pair of these fail and have now switched to the Free Ride version:
      Free Ride can still tour and seems much more robust. I am too worried about failure of the Freedom to use it now for long tours. Backcountry return policy seems to have changed and they told me to deal with Scarpa for warranty. It's been 5 weeks and I have no clear answer as to whether I will get a credit or refund.

      1 Year follow up with NTN Freedom

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      I've been using these for a year now on 2 pairs of skis in New Hampshire. I am 6'1" 180lbs and ski quite aggressively 40-50 days a year. Mostly lift served with some in bounds skinning and occasional days backcountry. My thoughts are as follows:

      -Binding has reliable progressive flex, tension stays put where set.

      -A lot of lift served skiing will wear the product, just replaced toe bumper. Bindings will look beaten up but it's worth it IMHO for the weight saving over the free ride. These are not designed for exclusively lift served skiing.

      - They do release and I feel this is a huge safety benefit even without DIN certification.

      - I feel these bindings are plenty active (stiff) enough compared to BD01 or Hammerheads, it is important to remember the the degree of stiffness is a combination of the binding AND the boot, so choose carefully.

      - It's really important to loctite the star drive bolts on either side of the toe bail or you will lose them.

      - I'm undecided about the brake feature, it's nice to have sometimes however they can get in the way and it's not possible to remove them without re-mounting.

      - I used my old 75mm boots for a ski demo recently and I can't imagine going back to them.

      -Touring mode works well, dual height risers are a nice feature.

      -Logical design that has been well executed, if durability could be improved and brakes made optional or less obtrusive it would be perfect. Perhaps a Titanium version to bring the weight down even more ?

      Binding pictured is Freeride.

      • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

      The binding pictured is the Freeride, not the Freedom. Here's a picture of the Freedom...At the front of the binding, at the pivot point, you can see there's a "Torx" style screw (on each side). I've found that this screw tends to back out. Once I applied some locktite to it, the screw stayed in place very nicely. It has a greater range of motion than the Freeride, both in the tour mode and in the ski mode, so it feels a little more like a classic telemark binding. I love the way it skis, the convenience of step in, and the ability to release - an ability I've used! The way in which it attaches enhances edge control. I have 80 days on 2 pair with no issues. In one season, I broke 2 toe pieces on the Freeride, however, which has a more active feel earlier in its initiation (it takes a bit more forward pressure to "break the bellows", on the Freeride) which takes a while to get used to. There was no "getting used to" the Freedom...it was easy to ski on the first run. If you are inclined to parallel turn, or turn flat footed, like on a run out if you're just too lazy to make every turn a tele turn, for instance, the Freedom has a slight "pitch up" on the toe piece that makes skiing flat footed a bit easier, as well. I have them on a pair of Armada JJs and a pair of Rossi S3s. Also, the ski brake on the Freedom seems easier to bend to fit the width of your wide skis than the Freeride's brakes, which means you may be able to make the brakes work on a wider range of widths.

      Binding pictured is Freeride.

      There is a torx fitting on each side. It's actually a post, with a torx fitting that goes through to a screw with a torx fitting to secure it. You will need two drivers....one to hold the post in place so that it doesn't spin, and one to remove the screw. Once they are out, I just put some blue locktite on them. That seems to do the trick, though it looked like some was put on at the factory as well. I have three sets that I've done this on and they seem to be holding. I wouldn't use epoxy or glue.

      Freedom >> Freeride

      • Familiarity: I've used it several times

      I took the leap and swapped out some nearly-new Freeride bindings for some Freedoms last year, and despite a few bugs, I am ecstatic about the upgrade. The advantages extend far beyond the weight savings and the pivot range. Somehow the mechanism is a much better match with my boots (TX Pros), with a nice smooth flex. I'm not the "knee-to-ski" type, but the Freedrides had a slightly restricted ROM that would force your foot to move in the boot when you try to drop deep. Whereas with the Freerides I was always tempted to crank up the resistance to gain more control (and sacrifice releasability), with the Freedom I discovered that relaxing the tension enabled my turns to be more nimble and snappy. After several trips to the resort I found I was skiing my best when the blue tubes were cranked down to 1-1.5. Seriously. Paradigm shift for me. I think it helps that these engage quicker when you raise your heel, but bottom line, I was just turning more easily. Moguls were fun again. No more thinking about or prepping turns, just snapping them.

      3 Days in & (mostly) happy

        I waited a long time to make the switch to NTN. the "tourability" of this binding and a matching 3-buckle boot is what finally got me to make the switch.



        I like how active this binding is. Awesome. I might have trouble going back to O1 mid-stiffs after this.



        I like the feel of the step-in, open/close, and even the switch to/from tour mode. Brakes are a plus too, even if they just help keep your skis together.



        Downside #1: the gentle resistance in touring mode is not a big deal when you are going in a straight line, but I find it a bit cumbersome on winding skintracks through tighter corners (ex: in trees). I would prefer no resistance like the other tele bindings out there.



        Downside #2: Icing. It's only happened once, and on a day when you would expect it. Snow gradually packs in under the toe, reducing the range of motion in "tour mode". When it came time to clear it, it was a bit-o-work.



        Disclaimer: after 5+ years of touring on O1's and Ascents, I know it'll take a couple days to dial in skinning technique and de-icing technique, not to mention what to put in your "spare parts kit". I expect I'll get happier & figure out the tricks with time.

        Update #2: Icing is a real problem

        4 days now, and this last was one to remember. These bindings ice up like you would not believe. I'm taking steps to manage it, but silicone spray and UHMW tape aren't things that I ever had to use on other tele bindings. Just sayin.

        Ken, I had the same problem of snow packing under the boot w/ the freeride in the back country. I used a piece of foam matting and wedged it in between the sides of the upright below the toe. It does not look like you can do that w/ the freedom unless its stuck to the ski itself. That may work but this would be a huge annoyance and inconvenience if a solution is not found.

        I don't know if this will work on the Freedom to prevent icing, but it worked on the Freeride. Placing a layer of duct tape underfoot seemed to stop it for me on the Freeride. I've put it on the Freedom (which didn't seem to have as much of a problem with it) and I'll see this season how it works.

        An extremely fragile binding

          The freedom binding is a lot of fun to ride on when it is not broken. I have broken two bindings over the past 12 ski days!



          With my first binding, the binding got stuck in the touring mode in the middle of a turn on a groomed run resulting a bad wipeout. It appears the internal mechanism fell apart with several broken plastic pieces falling out. Following prompt replacement by Backcountry [Scarpa never returned emails or phone calls, basically no service whatsoever], the replacement binding had a problem with the screws holding the toe pieces getting loose after only two days of usage. I have already lost one of the screws and I am trying to find a replacement.



          Unless you are willing to sit on the sidelines and miss some good days, wait until Rottefella improves this product. Hopefully by then, Scarpa will also be providing its customers with basic customer service.

          Very disappointing to hear the negative comments with regard to Scarpa's response. I had the same problem myself with them w/ the freerides. They had had a perfect opportunity to impress on a relatively small group and blown it. The back country shop were I live in Tahoe no longer sells or supports them.

          I've skied on Freedoms since fall 2012, and have had zero breakage. The internal mechanics of the binding are largely protected from impact by the frame around them. If these broke, I would suspect either a manufacturing defect or that they got damaged during installation. Either way, Scarpa should have better Customer Service.

          Did you install the replacement binding yourself? If the screws came loose, that's doesn't sound like an issue with the binding, but rather an issue with installation. The shop that installed them should have at the minimum glued the new screws to keep them sealed and tight, and preferably reinforced the mounting hole with a helicoil or something similar.

          Agreed. I skied these about 20 days and they broke. After a month of my ski shop dealing with Scarpa (terrible customer service) they broke again in 5 days. I'm an agressive skier, 6'3'', 220 lbs. but I never had these problems with my old Voile 3 pin hardwires or any other binding. Conclusion: not ready for prime time. Hopefully the new NTN offerings from other companies will be a huge upgrade from these bindings next season

          So nice!

          • Familiarity: I've used it several times

          Just got these bindings mounted on some Liberty Helix's. They are real nice. So easy to step in and out of. Ski with a ton of power. both the blue and green power boxes. I have the blue in now for the lower setting and better chance at release. All in all the weight loss has not affected performance!

          Ski to climb ability!

          • Familiarity: I gave it as a gift but have feedback to share

          I got these as a gift for my pops. He basically wanted these because of the Scarpa TX Comp Tele boot (for easy use when ice climbing). You can see my review of that there. He also liked the idea of having a break on his tele skis.

          NTN Freedom

          • Familiarity: I've used it several times

          I prefer this binding to my previous BD01 for the more predictable flex and the potential for release. I like the NTN boots much better for hiking and crampon compatibility. I did not realize that a smaller ski brake was available at the time of mounting so I now need to swap out the 110mm brake for the 95mm (my ski is 90mm) the 110mm standard was getting in the way and banging together on turns.

          I've taken some fairly large falls and not released from these (blue springs on setting 3, skier weight 185lbs) I hope they do release prior to injury !, either way I feel there is more chance of releasing here than with a duckbill boot and binding.

          Touring mode works at least as well as BD01.

          Can I mount these without the ski brakes? I have found a way to get a leash on my boot and binding. Want to keep my boot and other brake from banging into it, and I like the ritual of leashing up. Also, I heard that one can put on a metal mounting plate on that allows one to swap to another ski in your quiver without re-drilling. Is this true? Does it come standard? Can't find that accessory. Thanks guys.

          Hey augustwest,

          You can mount these bindings without the brake if you prefer leashes. Each set of NTN Freedom Bindings comes with the toe piece mounting plate you are referencing, but to get additional mounting plates your best bet would be to go to Scarpa/Rottefella directly. I am an avid telemark skier so feel free to contact me directly with any additional questions.

          Kyle L. - Expert Gearhead

          I have been skiing these bindings with a pair of Crispi boots in my first season on NTN. Question/concern is my big toe joints feel like they are getting beat up, sore most of the time, never had this before. Anyone else have this experience? Any thoughts? Thanks

          Hey Meg,

          First step is to take boots to a boot fitter. Ask among the most knowledgeable/gear geek of your skiing acquaintances, call shops, and find somebody in your region who truly knows how to fit a ski boot. I don't think the binding is the source of the pain, probably the boot.

          Unanswered Question

          I am not familiar with common failure points in these bindings. Any suggestions for spare parts to have on hand for longer tours? (beyond the normal repair kit items...zip ties, duct tape, super glue , bailing wire, etc.)

          Also, do you have a list of the specific bit sizes I would need to carry?

          I mounted these with Quiver Killers ski inserts so I can swap these between skis. Unfortunately removing the heel pieces is problematic. The plastic part snaps into the aluminium frame, holding the heel risers. Trying to snap that plastic part back out, I can't seem to avoid breaking it. Have already cracked one, still usable, but any more leverage risks destroying it. So my temporary workaround is to use Axl heels on one pair of skis (mounted sideways to match the holes). Does anyone have any hints as to:

          1 - Any magic method to unmount heel pieces?

          2 - Any source where I can buy additional heel pieces without buying the whole binding?

          I'm in New Zealand.

          Peter - just wondering if you are taking them off the right way. You flip the ski on the side and put your flat blade screwdriver on the side of the black plastic insert and push in and away from the ski. On the first side it will pop a little and when you push on the second side it will pop out (and usually across the room.) If they're breaking I wonder if you are prying them off from the top of the ski? Link has a good discussion of this topic. http://www.backcountrytalk.earnyourturns.com/vb/showthread.php?324-Swapping-NTN-Freedom-Heel-w-Inserts

          I am currently on a pair of CRBs + Crispi 3 buckle CXPs and they just do not feel not energetic enough--thinking about migrating to the Freedoms and 4 buckles, but I only weigh 125+ lbs and flexing stiff boots can be a pain. Any suggestions on men's boots for a moderately aggressive intermediate skier? Currently driving a pair of K2 160 Gotbacks that I really love.

          Best Answer

          Maybe something like the BD Seeker or Push, Scarpa T2. They are not soft telemark boots but, also not in the upper end of flex ratings either. If you go to a NTN binding like this you will lose a lot of flex all together. The boots that are compatible with this binding do away with the duck bill of traditional telemark boots. A lot of the flex in the boot comes from this duck bill, its a different way of telemark skiing. Maybe an updated binding like the SwitchBack could give you some more energy as well. I am going off information from Casey's experience with them so I will ask him to chime in when he gets to work on Tuesday, I am definitely an alpine skier.

          Does anyone know how to set the release...

          Does anyone know how to set the release tension? Not on their website. Yesterday it should have released and I've got a badly sprained ankle. My fault, borrowing a friend's and never checked into this. This binding skis so much better than Targa or Axl for me that I will stay faithful to it even if it rips my foot clear off.

          I have also just suffered a sprained ankle from failure to release. You can see my story and my conclusions on release settings here: http://blog.petertaylor.co.nz/2014/08/17/telemark-ntn-binding-injury/



          It is frustrating that the brochure that comes with the binding is not readily available as a download. I couldn't find it. Thanks Paul Nanawa for the link.

          I'm used to skiing an active binding...

          I'm used to skiing an active binding (Hammerhead Bombshells)...I really dislike Targa bindings now. Would I be happier with the Freeride in that case, or is the Freedom pretty active as well? I like to skin up my local ski area so the Freedom's touring features are tempting. I wouldn't be doing any long backcountry trips on these, though. (I also have an AT setup I would probably prefer). I would also be using it for lift-served as well. thanks!

          I migrated from the Targa, over the years, to the Karhu, HH and Axl and then the Freeride and now the Freedom. The Freedom is plenty active for me, here in Utah. I don't think there's much point in getting the Freeride over the Freedom unless you ski back east resort only. The Freedom may even be a bit easier to get used to than the Freeride, if you've never been on NTNs. The NTN is active immediately in its range of motion, so you have to "drive the cuff" of the rear boot more. Once you're used to it, they ski very well.

          Can anyone compare the NTN Freedoms to a...

          Can anyone compare the NTN Freedoms to a TTS system?

          at 3.5lbs/pair compared to 2lbs/pair for TTS I am leaning towards the latter but concerned with lateral rigidity.

          lateral rigidity is the same. both have an icing problem under the forefoot. i have pre-released a few times from TTS when using the stock toe piece, fixed by changing to a different tech toe piece (currently using plums). Overall, TTS requires a bit more tinkering but for touring, I think it is superior, feels a bit more bomber, easier to repair, many readily available parts. Freedom is more convenient (brakes, step-in).

          What is the difference between the Freeride...

          What is the difference between the Freeride and the Freedom, and how do I determine which is the best for me?

          Does anyone know how to get spare parts...

          Does anyone know how to get spare parts for these ? Scarpa seem to have difficulty responding to e-mail or picking up the phone.

          The star drive screws holding the toe bail on mine keep loosening even with the use of thread locker. I'm worried about losing parts in the backcountry.

          My boot is a new Crispi EVO NTN mondo 27.5...

          My boot is a new Crispi EVO NTN mondo 27.5 boot is this binding compatible, the std brake is 110mm what is the cost for the 95mm brake and does the binding come with additional power tubes? thanks Mike

          Mike, you need the long version of this binder, so the one that is in stock right now won't fit your boot. We've got the 95mm brakes on sale right now for $31.92. The binding doesn't come with additional power tubes but those are also on sale right now for $47.92. Hope this helps!

          I don't see any info on sizing for the NTN...

          I don't see any info on sizing for the NTN Freeride here. I'm guessing that small would encompass a 25.5?

          What's it like to ski the Freedom? How...

          What's it like to ski the Freedom?



          How does it compare to the Freeride? They say it is "less active." How does it compare to the BD O1 mid stiff? I know there are options, but just wanted to hear what it's like from those of you who've been on NTN for a while.



          Also... how does it tour?

          Although I haven't had any personal experience with these bindings, according to some research I have found that the "Freedom" NTN binding will reportedly shed weight and add significant free-pivot range over the "Freeride" binding. Check out http://www.telemarktips.com/FS_NTNSchralp.html for a great review of NTN!

          Yea, that is a great review... I have seen it. I guess what I'm wondering is how the Freedom compares to the Freeride. Do they ski pretty much the same? Any difference? Is the touring significantly better? How's the release? I'm debeting between this and the TTS binding.

          Best Answer

          The Freeride is a more active binding than the Freedom. The Freedom is more like a Hammerhead on 3, maybe a bit more, whereas the Freeride is more like 4. This doesn't completely capture the difference, though, IMO. I found it harder to get used to the Freeride, as it took more pressure to "break the bellows" so to speak than on the Freedom. The Freedom skis more like a conventional telemark binding. The tour function has considerably more range of motion with less resistance. If you want the conventional feel and may do some backcountry, I think the Freedom is a better choice. If you don't mind more weight and you want a bit more edge control in bounds, the Freeride may be a better choice.

          The description says "Comes standard with...

          The description says "Comes standard with 110mm ski brakes". Can you swap out for the 125 mm ski brakes? 110 mm does me no good.

          They come standard with 110, I doubt they'd switch it out, but the Freedom's ski brakes, this year were flexible enough that I was able to bend them out enough to work with a 115 mm under foot ski, easily. You may want to try out the 110 before you drop $40 on the 125. It's only 1/3 of an inch on each side.

          Does anyone know if the Freedom will have...

          Does anyone know if the Freedom will have the same mounting plate as the Freeride??

          Just got back from BC with my last year's skis to compare. Kirk has it right. The new Freeride and Freedom both have wider hole patterns than last years (and years before) Freeride. The current year Freedom and Freeride have the same hole patterns, as Alex mentioned. BTW, the ski brakes they come with are not quite wide enough, out of the box, for my Armada JJs. However, with some minor bending, they seem to fit.