Scarpa Freney XT GTX Mountaineering Boots - Men's - 2008 BCS

You know this was designed as an Ice climbing boot . If you looking for something that is a bit more versitle i would consider the Triolet pro or CHarmoz from Scarpa.

ok i have a couple of Options for you. The lightest would be Charmoz. This one doesn't have insulation but is a climbing machine. That would be lightest and most walkable. Summit GTX would be similar to Lasportiva boots you have and it does have insulation. Freney your looking at is primarily and Ice climbing specific boot. Hope this helps.

absolutely!

Freeney is going to suit ice much better. The Triolet is on the soft side. Great for mountaineering and alping climbing but not so for the vert ice. You'd be better off with the Freeney's.

I have a wide foot and the Scarpa's work for me, you should try on a pair as they are noticably wider than Sportivas. The weights you are citing are different, in that one is for a pair of boots, the other is for a single. The two boots weight almost the same... within 4 oz.

Hi Scott, I have a pair of these and spent last three seasons in them, single or two pitch ice and mixed climbing (in NE). Freney is very light and super stiff. Only shoes lighter would be fruit boots

I personally don't think it's so much of a break-in process but more just how the boots wear. You might check out the La Sportiva Nepal Evo's. They're a warmer boot for climbs like Rainier and will handle anything you throw their way.

I have used Grivel G14s with Frenays with success on mixed and vertical ice. The freneys have quite a curve to the sole so you would need to fit the asymetric 'banana' shaped crampn bars to ensure a snug fit to the boot's sole - not sure how snug a fit Foot Fangs would provide as they look pretty rectangular. Hope this helps Monty

Daniel,These Scarpa's are pretty flat on the bottom and have almost no rocker in the front of the shoe. Like most modern mountaineering boots they now have more of an anatomical fit. I have never used Foot Fangs, but imagine it will feel unnatural when walking. Take a look at some of the modern crampons on the market right now. They will be more secure and fit much better. If you are going to make the investment in a nice boot you should definitely have the crampons to match. What are you going to be doing in these?Mahalo, Sumo

It Depends on the temp. The Freney's don't have a removable liner. As with all boots of this type, it may be challenging to dry them at night whilst in a tent. If you are bunking in a structure and have heating, then you're fine. If not, I might go with a boot that has a removable liner which you can place in your bag at night to dry it out and warm it up.

Gabe,
I'm curious, did you take the Freneys on the multi day winter mountaineering trip? I'm considering the Freney myself. Thanks.

If you don't dare, you are a silly fool who isn't doing such magnificent boots justice. That's exactly what they're for. Godspeed.

The Scarpa Model that compares to the Nepal is the Mont Blanc, it's a full leather exterior. Scarpa's vs. Sportiva's typically come down to fit. Try both on and see.

In my opinion it's not even close. The sole is very similar in durability but the rest of the boot isn't. The entire lacing system seems to break down faster on this boot. Personally I think everything about the Nepal Evo is just a lot better than this, especially for ice climbing. If you talk to the folks at Sportiva they tell you that they designed the Nepal Evo specifically for ice climbing. Check 'em out for sure.Hope that helps.

Half or Full size up from your street shoe is good to avoid toe bang. If you go a full size up, you may need to take up a bit of volume so that your foot doesn't slide forward.

I'd say half or full size bigger

Now I got mine and agree - half a size bigger is good. I wear street 10 US and wear 43.5 in the Freney. I could get away with 43 as well though.They tend to run slightly smaller so I suggest ordering a half size larger due to thicker socks & sock liners.

Hello Scarpa guy here. I woud say the Phantom lite warmest, second summit GTX, third Freney Gtx. Hope this helpsK