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Hi can anyone tell me if the Scarpa Freney...

Hi can anyone tell me if the Scarpa Freney is ok as an all year round walking / scrambling boot?

You know this was designed as an Ice climbing boot . If you looking for something that is a bit more versitle i would consider the Triolet pro or CHarmoz from Scarpa.

Great to read other opinions. So, what,...

Great to read other opinions. So, what, if any of the Scarpa line would compare/replace the Sportiva Nepal EVO? I've climbed in the Sportiva, vert ice, alpine, and ok for longer approaches(not without discomfort). They are very nice but now in need of another, looking around for the latest/greatest (lightest??).

ok i have a couple of Options for you. The lightest would be Charmoz. This one doesn't have insulation but is a climbing machine. That would be lightest and most walkable. Summit GTX would be similar to Lasportiva boots you have and it does have insulation. Freney your looking at is primarily and Ice climbing specific boot. Hope this helps.

Are these compatible with the Black Diamond...

Are these compatible with the Black Diamond Cyborg Pro crampons with the single steel front strap for boots with a toe welt?


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    ok on vertical ice and for me...horrible to hike in. I am quite frustrated with ice/alipine climbing boots - maybe God designed me wrong, but I can't find anything that works. I've gone through a pair or Scarpa Freneys and invernos, La sportivas, and Asolos. The asolos were 25 bucks on ebay and worked the best for everything, wish I wouldn't have given into the desire to have a lighter, more name brand boot thinking I would be more comfortable. The freneys are light which is nice. I did an easy 7 mile hike in them and about died - super uncomfortable and would not recommend hiking a log distance in them unless you have put a couple miles on them around your local area to test. Climbing ice is ok, but the top of the toe offers little protection so its easy to bash your toes up. Open to recommendations, it seems like you need two pairs of boots, one for vertical ice and one that is flexible and good for glacial travel.

    I have used Scarpa Freneys for the last two Scottish winters (2010/11) and found them supremely comfortable even after 12 hours of near non-stop walking.

    Fantastic ankle support for steep climbs and descents yet flexible and lightweight enough to not leave you feeling like you've got a pair of Jaques Cousteau's diving boots on.

    Paired with some smartwool mountaineering socks I generally finish the day with warm dry feet - no signs of 'trenchfoot'. The lacing system allows a custom fit to stop toes getting squashed during descents and prevent 'hotspots' developing elesewhere.

    On vertical ice these boots have performed admirably when used with a pair of Grivel G14s - simple to fit and adjust yet giving a dexterous and reassuring feel.

    The look maybe a bit 'retro 70s' for some but on a crisp winter morning striding off to the hills lokking like 'Ziggy Stardust' brings nothing but a smile to my face.

    How does this boot compare to the Scarpa...

    How does this boot compare to the Scarpa Triolet GTX? I'm looking for something I can use mostly for ice climbing, but likely some alpine climbing as well and am wondering which boot would be better suited.

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    Freeney is going to suit ice much better. The Triolet is on the soft side. Great for mountaineering and alping climbing but not so for the vert ice. You'd be better off with the Freeney's.

    So here is the weight difference between...

    So here is the weight difference between the Kayland M11+ and the Scarpa Freney. Is the 3 lb. weight difference due to insulation and is the Freney more of a 4 season boot? Can anyone offer some input on the comparison between the two boots? I'm looking for a vertical ice, year round, mixed mountaineering boot. La Sportiva lasts don't fit my medium wide foot, so the nepal is out.Kayland: Weight: [Pair] 1lb 15oz (890g)Scarpa: Weight: [Pair, size 9] 4lb (1850g)

    Hi Scott, I have a pair of these and spent last three seasons in them, single or two pitch ice and mixed climbing (in NE). Freney is very light and super stiff. Only shoes lighter would be fruit boots

    I have a wide foot and the Scarpa's work for me, you should try on a pair as they are noticably wider than Sportivas. The weights you are citing are different, in that one is for a pair of boots, the other is for a single. The two boots weight almost the same... within 4 oz.

    I purchased these boots last year for a...

    I purchased these boots last year for a trip up Mt. Shasta. I put about 40 miles on them beforehand and on the Shasta approach they were still VERY stiff and not too comfortable (walking on a rocky trail). Is this the right boot for summer snow travel on mountains like Shasta and Rainier? I am not doing any vertical ice climbing, but want a good crampon compatible boot for long approaches and snow/glacier travel. Please let me know if its the wrong boot or whether I need to break it in more. Thanks

    I personally don't think it's so much of a break-in process but more just how the boots wear. You might check out the La Sportiva Nepal Evo's. They're a warmer boot for climbs like Rainier and will handle anything you throw their way.

    Will Foot Fangs work with this boot? are...

    Will Foot Fangs work with this boot? are they flat enough?

    Daniel,These Scarpa's are pretty flat on the bottom and have almost no rocker in the front of the shoe. Like most modern mountaineering boots they now have more of an anatomical fit. I have never used Foot Fangs, but imagine it will feel unnatural when walking. Take a look at some of the modern crampons on the market right now. They will be more secure and fit much better. If you are going to make the investment in a nice boot you should definitely have the crampons to match. What are you going to be doing in these?Mahalo, Sumo

    I have used Grivel G14s with Frenays with success on mixed and vertical ice. The freneys have quite a curve to the sole so you would need to fit the asymetric 'banana' shaped crampn bars to ensure a snug fit to the boot's sole - not sure how snug a fit Foot Fangs would provide as they look pretty rectangular. Hope this helps Monty

    Do I dare take the Scarpa Freney XT boots...

    Do I dare take the Scarpa Freney XT boots out on multi day winter mountaineering trips?

    If you don't dare, you are a silly fool who isn't doing such magnificent boots justice. That's exactly what they're for. Godspeed.

    I'm curious, did you take the Freneys on the multi day winter mountaineering trip? I'm considering the Freney myself. Thanks.

    It Depends on the temp. The Freney's don't have a removable liner. As with all boots of this type, it may be challenging to dry them at night whilst in a tent. If you are bunking in a structure and have heating, then you're fine. If not, I might go with a boot that has a removable liner which you can place in your bag at night to dry it out and warm it up.

    How does this compare to the La Sportiva...

    How does this compare to the La Sportiva Nepal EVO GTX? I want the better boot for durability and for a solid Ice climbing boot?

    In my opinion it's not even close. The sole is very similar in durability but the rest of the boot isn't. The entire lacing system seems to break down faster on this boot. Personally I think everything about the Nepal Evo is just a lot better than this, especially for ice climbing. If you talk to the folks at Sportiva they tell you that they designed the Nepal Evo specifically for ice climbing. Check 'em out for sure.Hope that helps.

    The Scarpa Model that compares to the Nepal is the Mont Blanc, it's a full leather exterior. Scarpa's vs. Sportiva's typically come down to fit. Try both on and see.

    Any comments on whether these run true to...

    Any comments on whether these run true to the size, smaller or larger compared to your US street size?

    Now I got mine and agree - half a size bigger is good. I wear street 10 US and wear 43.5 in the Freney. I could get away with 43 as well though.They tend to run slightly smaller so I suggest ordering a half size larger due to thicker socks & sock liners.

    Half or Full size up from your street shoe is good to avoid toe bang. If you go a full size up, you may need to take up a bit of volume so that your foot doesn't slide forward.

    What are the warmest (non-hardshell) scarpa...

    What are the warmest (non-hardshell) scarpa and la sportiva boots you have?

    Hello Scarpa guy here. I woud say the Phantom lite warmest, second summit GTX, third Freney Gtx. Hope this helpsK