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Who says you can't be hardcore and comfy?
You love your WTR soles, with their comfy grip, but time doesn't grow on trees and wait for you to take them off every time you get into your freeski bindings. Thank goodness Salomon made the new STH 2 WTR 13 Ski Binding, a burly beast of a binding with the oh-so-accommodating WTR compatibility. Now, quit your whining and step into the 3D Driver toe piece with XL wings and Simultaneous adjustment. The Guardian heel piece features a smooth-operating flex interface, and the whole binding lies low and wide with short chassis and oversized platform for exceptional terrain feel and powerful transmission. Progressive transfer pads deliver increased dampening and forgiveness for easy riding on this hardcore binding. Freeski brakes in mid-fat to fat widths self-retract for assured clearance when riding switch. This new offering from Salomon also comes in a top-of-the-line 16-DIN version.
- 3D Driver toe with manual height adjustment
- XL wing with elastic travel
- Micro Simultaneous wing adjustment
- Low-profile chassis
- Progressive transfer pads
- Oversized steel platform
- Fixed wide stomp pedal
- Heel flex interface
- Self-retracting freeski brakes
- WTR Walk-to-Ride sole compatibility. Compatible with ISO 9523 certified AT boots and alpine boot soles; not compatible with non-certified, full-rubber AT soles
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Which binding would you recommend for...
Which binding would you recommend for Enduro XT800s? Looking at either Z12 Ti, STH2 WTR 13 , STH12 or Marker XCell 12/16. Thanks!
I have seen the Xcell and for a pure alpine binding the new technology looks awesome. Some of the instructors I have talked to say the power transfer with that binding feels great and I would definitely put it on a pure alpine ski, especially if carving was my primary style. STH 2 WTR 13 is suited a bit more for free-riding on fatter skis.
Heel on STH2 WTR is the same as the Guardian. Toe is similar to previous models.
Toe still shares the same hole pattern as previous 900 series bingings
Boom! Still killing it
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
People have preferences. I have used many different bindings and I prefer Salomon. For me, Salomons do exactly what I expect. They release when they should and I never worry about them pre-releasing when they shouldn't.
What I love about this binding is that among the changes, there are some basic features that stayed the same as the salomon 900 series bindings I have been using for years. Although the heel is now different (same as Guardian) the toe shares the same hole pattern as previous models and functions the same. I feel just as comfortable on this binding and what I expect as I have on all my previous Salomon clamps.
I'm a fatty and also the best skier on the mountain ...so I considered the WTR16 to get more metal. Honestly, the WTR13 is a great binding and after a season, I have no worries about a little less metal compared to the 16.
I threw these on a brand new pair of what is still my favorite pow ski. Love the 130 or hate it ...classic OG pow pow ski.
Note: I traded someone 115mm brakes for a pair of 130mm. This is the only downside to the STH2 WTR's. you can't get every width in both the 13 and 16.
Note 2: The bit about me being the best skier on the mountain may or may not be sarcastic
anyone using this on the blizzard cochise?...
anyone using this on the blizzard cochise? Looks like the cochise is right in between brake sisze. Did you go with the 100mm or 115mm? I have wider than necessary brakes, and I've always been lucky using 115 brakes on my on3p billy goat 114, and rocker2 which is 113. and 100mm brakes on 98mm underfoot skis... now I'm not sure which way to go with the cochise! I saw some pictures of a cochise with 115mm brakes and they looked too wide to me...
Since the Cochise are 108mm under foot the best option would be the 115mm brakes because the 100mm brakes would be to small. You can bend out the brakes a little bit on each side but bending them out 4mm on each side could be pushing the limits of the brakes because the more you bend them out the less stopping power they have if you lose your ski. The 115mm brakes might look a little big for the ski once you have them on there, but it's better to have the brakes look to big, then to have the brakes not work and have your ski slide down the whole ski run.
I'm thinking of getting these for my salomon...
I'm thinking of getting these for my salomon rocker 108's, but I'm also looking at the FKS/Pivot 14. I would be mostly using the skis for all mt and powder. I am 5'9" about 145 and ski pretty aggressively. Which binding would fit me best?
In your situation it really comes down to personal preference. Pairing up a new salomon ski with a new salomon binding doubles the manufacturers warranty but in all honesty I don't think that means very much. It's always nice to pair up a manufacturers unless you have other preferences, especially for resale. They are compatible with ISO 9523 AT boots which doesn't sound like you care about. I feel they provide more power transfer to the skis but others may argue.
FKS/Pivot are unique in many ways when referring to retention and release. The toe releases a full 180 degrees and the turntable heel is a very good ally to have on your side to prevent knee injuries. Plus they have the most elastic travel to prevent pre-releasing.
People usually have their favorite bindings, my preference is Griffon while other people can't stand them. Pick the binding that looks best on the ski, pick the binding which has the closer brake width, choose the cheaper one, or just flip a coin.
Hope that helps but I'm thinking it didn't, lol.
I'm thinking of fitting these to a pair...
I'm thinking of fitting these to a pair of Brahma's, do I go with the 90's or 100's? (note you appear to be out of 90's)
Hi there Bill,
The Brahma's would best fit in a 90 brake. You can purchase the size 100 since the binding itself will be the same, and if you want to swap out the brakes for a better fit, Salomon does sell the size 90 brake separately!
What size brake for the Solomon STH2 WTR...
What size brake for the Solomon STH2 WTR 13 would be best for the Line Prophet 90? Is a 90mm brake too tight? Seems like a 100mm brake would be large.
90 is perfect. I wish all of them could pair up that well. If you have any doubts then call the ski shop that will be mounting them to ease your mind.
To explain a little more. You can bend a brake out up to 6mm (3mm on either side) to fit a ski waist width that is 5mm wider than you brakes, but further than that and you will start to inhibit the brakes effectiveness. Sure a 91mm brake would be perfect for the Line Prophet 90, but I don't see many of those around, and 90mm would be a close second to perfection.
Will these work on the Nordica hell and...
Will these work on the Nordica hell and back 99 underfoot?
You bet! Get the 100mm wide version and enjoy. One sweet looking binding for sure.
Are these compatible with a Dynafit TLT6P...
Are these compatible with a Dynafit TLT6P boot? I ski mostly backcountry with my TLT6s & Radical bindings, but I have an old pair of K2 Obsethed I'd like to use as a resort ski (without "tech" bindings). Currently those skis have Fritschis on them, but I hate the extra height vs. a normal alpine binding. From what I've found, the TLT6s are compatible with frame AT bindings (i.e. Fritschi), which are DIN ISO 9523, which the STH 2 is supposedly compatible with.
I think your best bet would be to get a full on resort setup. I tried doing the fritschi/duke thing with AT boots (Scarpas) but nothing beats a full on alpine boot and bindings. Alpine boots have a smoother flex and absorb shock better. Its like the difference between a fully rigid mountain bike and a full suspension.
STH 2 WTR 13 Ski on Blizzard Bonafides
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I have had all sorts of bindings and always end up back with Salomon. Never had any issues and I am a HUGE fan of less moving parts. The wider base helps edge to edge on wider skis and the engagement is EXTREMELY positive when stepping in. Props to them for keeping the platform simple and functional. Less moving parts to clog with dirt or freeze. Stay in and come out when you are supposed to. Used in steeps, powder, bumps, crud... flawless
How do these compare to marker griffon?...
How do these compare to marker griffon? I've always used griffons on all my skis for many years and no issues. I like the compact light swing weight they provide, wide platform, etc.. Just wondering if it's worth trying something different and these look pretty damn cool. Weight comparisons? Any other differences?
sth bindings have more metal than marker which I like. I'm a big fan of STH driver bindings, if you need new bindings I would go with Salomon over Marker!
Anyone used these and the 2012/2013 STH12...
Anyone used these and the 2012/2013 STH12 that can tell a difference? I broke an STH12, can't really find many for sale and may have to get these...not too stoked about it and would like some input. Thanks.
They are similar but now the heel piece is the same as the guardian, the bindings have a little wider base platform and also wtr compatible, which you can make it work with some at boots. overall still a solid binding like any STH! Go for it...
bang for the buck
I picked up a pair of these and my initial impressions were great, i liked all the improvements that were made compared to the original STH line. Wider base allows easier transition edge to edge with fatter skis the newly designed toe is better, and they are fairly light compared to others on the market. The only fault is that i still sometimes will find myself pre releasing this has always been an issue with salomons for me.
All in all the binding skis great and is nice and light.
Will these work on Armada Bubbas? 127...
Will these work on Armada Bubbas? 127 underfoot..
You might be able to bend the 115s wide enough to "fit" but with that much stretch the brakes really wouldnt be too effective at all. Id recomend the Rossignol FKS 140 with the B130 break or the Look pivot 14 with the 130mm break. Those will both fit great!
Don't try to make those fit, I am begging you! It just isn't worth it. Joey's alternative recommendations are good and I would go with one of those any day for that ski.
Will these work on k2 obsetheds?
Will these work on k2 obsetheds?
They will work, just be sure to get the 115mm and you'll have to bend out those last 2mm underfoot on the brakes.
Abma gives his take
salomon STH 2 WTR 13 Binding
It works & I feel safe. What else do you want me to say. Okay fine here is some more stuff from the salomon website.
STH� WTR combines Salomon's renown Driver toe-piece with the Guardian heel piece, for a binding that delivers superior transmission and downhill performance on wide plateforms and modern ski shapes, along with compatibility with Salomon walking soles.
What is the weight on a pair with the 100mm...
What is the weight on a pair with the 100mm bindings?
The pair should weigh about 2272 grams
Are these compatible with regular alpine...
Are these compatible with regular alpine soles too?
Yes. Do a quick search on Google for "sth2 review". Read the one posted on TGR.