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What is sole length for 25.5?
What is sole length for 25.5?
Skis great. AT Soles fall apart.
I've gone through 2 pairs of soles in 5 days of use. Yesterday I did a 4500' climb and ski. By the time I reached the summit my soles had separated from the front of the boot and I had to rig the boot into the binding. When you are about do a big descent you don't want to worry about your binding coming off. The liner also rubs on the back of my foot. The liner needs shoe strings. I love the way these boots ski but touring with them is not recommended.
DO NOT BUY THESE BOOTS! First off, I really wanted to like these boots. The idea behind them is great and the fit is awesome but the execution is unacceptable. After using them a handful of days the top buckle exploded causing me to crash hard. Luckily this poor quality part only ended my day, not my season. Do yourself a favor and do a search for Quest 12 buckle failure before you decide to spend your hard earned money on these. This is not an isolated incident. This is a known issue and Salomon has not done anything to fix it.
Too bad because these could've been great boots. Instead they are a ticking time bomb waiting to self destruct as many others have found out. I am giving them one star because the fit is great, the sole grips really well when booting into the sidecountry and the walk-mode makes easy work of those long ascents. I have had several pairs of Salomon boots in the past, but will not be spending another penny on their products.
Let me start by saying that I love these boots, or should I say loved?
Back release buckle broke off after one week use, and I've heard too many others complain about buckles breaking off.
It's really a shame, because when using them they were great. Waiting to see what the outcome of my warranty claim will be.
Update 2/16: Finally got to speak with customer service. Actually very helpful once you get through to them.
Better than my Black Diamond Primes, laces will kill me.
I have skied these a few times but haven't had the chance to take them uphill. The fact that I can ski these inbounds says a lot. I can't bomb down but can cruise at a moderate speed. Compared to the BD Primes I had they are stiffer, provide more control and are fun to ski. The primes were way too soft. Really liked the BOA system, no blisters out of the box on the Primes.
These boots really need to go BOA, the lacing system sucks, not to mention I'm pretty sure they will cause me to fall at some point. Tucking the tab under the "Biovent" tab is fine but the laces can still get caught on something. Since I don't feel much stiffness on the tongue I removed 2 screws to bring one of the plastic plates up, seems like it will help but now the lacing lock tab is in the way...
Walking around in them is fine, the bottom sole is wicked slippery, watch out will you get them scuffed up. The liner has a weird neoprene front which makes custom insoles slide forward through, I have custom insoles I had to tape down.
If there is a stiff great AT boot with a 100mm last I'm all ears.
The boot runs smaller than my impact 10s. A boot fitter couldn't get the thing fit right and kept saying I needed to go down a shell size. I tried a size smaller and there's no way in *$&#( I could get it to close. The shell fit had 2 fingers and that's ok. It doesn't mean you need to size down in this boot.
Salomon really needs to modify this boot and make it better. If you are inbetween the 12 and the 14 I would go with the 14. BC is out of my size. The double canting makes a different for me as I catch a little edge when skiing switch. Not to mention they would be stiffer. 12s are soft. If you are buying these boots to get a powerful boot then you want the 14s. Granted I'm 200+ lbs.
Anyone know if the 12 (or the new 14) works...
Anyone know if the 12 (or the new 14) works in an alpine binding?
Found the answer from Salomon directly: Yes. 8, 10, 14 for this year are alpine ready. Pro and Pro Pebax are AT ready. They make alpine and trek pads that can make either boot the other boot's sole.
Great boots front and backside
I skied these boots hard through a full season last year in Australia as well as a couple of weeks in the US, both in resort and backcountry conditions in both countries and found them to be excellent in both environments.
I had a little trouble at first with the fit around my thick calves but the boots settled in fairly quickly and all was good. The over-sized power strap easily compensates for the lack of a 4th buckle.
In addition to the safety issues these boots suck for touring and suck for skiing. the fit wasn't great and Salomon's three buckle doest preform well. The three buckle design Salomon uses isn't very secure and just makes the tongue seem even softer i'm not sure the tongue is actually 120 it seemed much softer. the one buckle in the middle of the top cant be tightened very much which seemed to make the overlap slide around. All the issues i had with the tounge seemed to make these boots suck for the downhill. These boots are almost worthless for touring. I'd recommend a boot like the mobe or even a full on touring boot like the maestreal. Chances are if your looking at this boot you want a free ride /at boot this is not one. the mobe will preform up on the up the down and fit nicely. I would recommend this boot to skiers who like getting hurt or want a boot that cant tour or ski well with. in all seriousness i wouldn't recommend this boot to anyone, not even my worst enemy.
Just got these boots about a week ago and love them so far. I would say I have a normal/slightly widish foot and there is a little bit of pressure on the outside of my foot but its nothing too bad. Responsiveness is great, I can really feel my heel locked in and don't get the sluggish response of my old boots. From what I can tell these seem to be solidly made, none of the parts feel cheap or flimsy. 3 strap system works great, can't tell a difference from 4. The stiffness and angle really let me lean back and stay in control which really helps for powder skiing with smaller skis.
Great Alpine Boot
This is an amazing boot for ripping big bowls and tearing around in the trees. The boot is very responsive at speed, with the more you give the more you get. Comfortable with a wide last and internal lace up system.
The only reason I give this boot a 4/5 is its back country capabilities are not on par with its skiing ability. The walk feature works, but requires a lot of loosening in order for it to be noticeable. Also the advertised rubber bottom is only in the arch of the foot and does not contact the snow and ice very well. This makes it grip just like most ski boots do.
Overall I would recommend this boot to someone who likes to ski big lines all day long and wants the option to hike into the back country but lifts are still their preferred mode of transportation.
i just got these boots and the comments...
i just got these boots and the comments below are kinda scary :S should i return them if there that bad and just break apart?
If you have any issues with them, then you should definitely return them. However, the comments below are concerning a replacement sole that had the metal tech insert for dynafit bindings. Those soles have been removed from the market so your boots will be fine. If you like the how they fit I would keep them. Lots of people are skiing them here in LCC and love them.
So if I knew absolutely nothing about the whole tech insert failure, I would be like "whoa, these boots are the best I've had". But even with the whole insert failure thing, I can't get myself to subtract even a star.
I love these boots. If the internet didn't exist, there would be NO concerns about this boots durability and function coming from my mouth.
For me, great fit, even better performance, and a good compromise for me. I patrol, so I really like having the walk mode, and it's nice for touring. The BD walk mode on the factor had a bit more range of motion, but not enough that I was concerned.
Gnar Boot (non-tech version)
*I would like to say that I similarly am dissapointed with Salomon's handling of the tech-soles/injuries from them last year, but wanted to comment on my experience with the non-tech version of the boot*
I picked up one of the limited release non-tech boots last spring (before injuries and recalls) after falling in love with it at SIA's on-snow demo days and haven't looked back. The boot has the strength to command any fat ski down any mountain, but the comfort necessary for big-tours. I was previously riding in Black Diamond Factors and felt that the Salomon Quest 12 was an excellent alternative to the stiffness/responsiveness of those hardcore boots, but at a better price and better fit (for touring). So far, I have logged ~50 days of skinning/hiking/bootpacking (depending on season/line) in these boots and have yet to have a single issue. The materials all seem durable and the flex has stayed consistent. I now ride these boots with Rossignol S7s (188cm) and they happily handle the ski through any condition or terrain. I would highly recommend this boot to anyone who is "all about the down" but is not afraid of large days in the backcountry.
The only possible complaint I have is that the "walk" mode is not very noticeable except for on the longest of skins.
runs a size small
Bought the right size. Turns out I needed the next size up. Other than that, boot fits and feels like a dream snug!
Quest is an Alpine boot
I am a Salomon athlete and Heliski guide. I Ski toured and guided Alpine skiing in this boot. Most bomber touring capable alpine boot I have owned. The Quest 12 was not recalled, and my pair never came with the recalled "Dynafit type" compatible sole from the Quest Pro/Pebax boot with the metal inserts. I climbed Mt. Shasta this spring using the soles pictured above, they were fairly comfortable to climb in and great to ski down on. I too had to take up volume...my foot is long and narrow.
I used this boot last year quite a bit and really enjoyed it. Very comfortable to ski and hike in. I did have to make some adjustments to take up some of the volume of the boot as the last is quite wide for my foot. I also would put the flex closer to 110. This boot has replaceable soles. Originally, there was a sole which tried to be compatible w Dynafit bindings but it was not designed properly, failed (see the other reviews on this page for details), and was recalled. The recall was only for the replaceable soles that had the metal inserts for Dynafit bindings. The soles pictured above are fine. I'm not trying to say the other soles were not total crap, just that these ones are fine.
Not sure, yet
I have only skied in these boots for one day but I have had some trouble with sore shins. I have fairly sizeable calf muscles so maybe that is the problem. I have custom made foot beds but have not had the inners thermo-molded yet, so this may help when I get this done.
Before you buy these make sure you read up on the failure recall here: http://www.wildsnow.com/2899/salomon-quest-boots-announcement/ AND http://www.wildsnow.com/2888/salomon-quest-tech-fittings-failure/ These ship only with the alpine soles but the AT tech soles(available separately) have been recalled and SHOULD NOT BE USED. Hopefully Salomon's full attention is on this and they will have a working replacement available before the full release in the Fall 2010.