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- V-shaped early-rise tips float over pow and variable conditions without hooking
- Full wood core creates a powerful and dependable flex pattern for both carving and surfing
- Sandwich sidewall construction creates long-term durability and solid edgehold
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Hey guys, can you help with sizing? I'm...
Hey guys, can you help with sizing? I'm getting the BBR 8.0, moving from a beginner to solid intermediate skier (last 10yrs snowboarding, now converted). I'm 5' 11 185lbs and deciding between the 169 vs 179 cm version. I'm not super fast but cruising pretty well down all groomers and hoping to learn to ski trees and a little off piste as soon as my progression allows.
Most charts say I should be around 170cm but everyone recommends longer on the BBRs. Please help!
Based on what all the people are saying on all the previous post and reviews I would go for the 179cm. One of the guys below really pushes the 186cm for someone your size but at your ability level I wouldn't recommend that long of length. If you walked into a ski shop told them your situation I would think they would stick to the 179cm also. Advanced to expert that charges and plays hard then 186cm would be ok.
Very Amazing despite odd look
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
Went to Park City Feb 18 - 25. Conditions varied from powder, hardpack, groomers, trees and off piste. These skis were very good on the groomers. You put these things on an edge and they turn. From short turns to long turns they were amazing. In powder these things floated with ease don't put them on edge too much or you will take a sideways spill. I was very skeptical of these skis at first. They definitely exceeded my expectations. They performed very well in the trees turning on a dime. The only thing these skis did not like were bumps/moguls. The off-piste performance was spectacular. If you are looking for a one ski quiver these would do it. They do take a little getting used in the powder. The tips to me do not have enough of an early rise like some powder skis. It definitely is good for someone just starting to explore the back country.
3 year review of ski's
3 year review
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I am skiing my 3rd year on these skis with roughly 25+ days a year skiing on them. Best all mountain ski I have ever skied! I have traveled around to numerous Mtns in the Northwest and skied ice to fresh powder and these skis have never let me down. I am an aggressive skier who likes to ski the trees and the tight turning radius of these skis make them turn like a Ferrari. Surprisingly these handle the bumps just as well. Take into consideration they are not the best powder or the best bump skis but in my opinion the best all mountain ski that if your are traveling and have one ski this is it.
To address the comments below:
186cm if your between 5'9" to 6'
Have the right boot for the ski, aggressively canted boots of years past will make this ski handle horribly because it is putting to much weight forward.
Is this a good ski for Tele or AT, in my opinion No! It has a large shovel and small tails which make backcountry traversing or climbing inefficient.
Hey, I have been using the BBR 8.9's for...
Hey, I have been using the BBR 8.9's for the past month at Canyons, and like them quiet a bit. The (small) problem is that I still feel a bit strange with them, like I dont have as much control as I do with other skis. It feels like I am forced into a back seat position. I have the bindings set on the line, I was wondering if anyone thought that moving my binding back a couple cm or so would help me be able to lean forward and get a little more power/control through my toes, or if I should move my binding forward, or if I just suck and need to learn how to use this ski. I am a pretty solid intermediate skiier, and the only two other skiis that I have ever used let me lean forward and gave me more control.
Try to lean forward more. Those skis also like to be on edges all the time. They can easily fall into the category carving skis. My bindings are at the middle line also and feel the skis very solid. Only time the skis can suffer is at high speeds.
Try to lean forward and tip more your edges.
To anyone who is interested, I played around with these skis and I found the solution to my problem. It had nothing to do with the binding mount position, the ski or my technique, it was actually my boots. Basically, my boots sucked and did not hold my heels or foot, which constantly left me struggling for my life in the back seat. As soon as I switched to my new boots which hold my foot and heel securely and also have a more aggressive forward lean, I could not help but stay in the front seat. I am in completel control now, and I have absolutely no problem with this ski. Hope this helps anyone who is having a similar problem. Skis are only as good as the boots which are driving them.
You are just dating a pair if skis and marring a pair of boots. Poor boot fit and alignment can destroy your skiing and not even having a clue what is going on. Most of the boot-fitters on East Coast (not all for sure) are overlooking the option for boot alignment. By the time you find a good one it already cost you a lot of money and ruined days of skiing.
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I bought these last week. I live near Breckenridge and was looking for a new ski. I was skiing 179 K2 Kung Fujas and was looking for something more nimble for the on piste. Based on the reviews and that fact they were on sale I bought the BBR 176's. Today we had 8" of fresh and I struggled like I had never skied powder w these skis. They were decent on the groom but in the trees and in the deeper pow these things are no fun. The front tips are so wide they just catch every where there is a pile of snow. The backs are narrow and very difficult to "surf" on these skis. Not at all impressed.
Hi there. I have been looking at buying a...
Hi there. I have been looking at buying a pair of Salomon bbr 8.9 skis. I'm 5ft11inch and weigh 14.5stone and I'm needing a bit of advice on the best length to choose? Normally I'd go for the 176cm option but iv been hearing that its better going for the larger 186 model. My skiing consists of a couple of weeks in the 3 valleys a year with 70/30 on/off piste. Help would be much appreciated. Cheers
At your height you'll benefit of getting 186cm length. I'am 5'9" and have 186cm.
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I am an expert skier, used to ski 40 days per year, now mainly take just 1 or 2 4 day vacations a year. I don't shy away from anything really. I would highly recommend these skis..extremely versatile in powder, ice, groomed, etc. They are so much fun. For sizing, I'm 5'11.5" and 170 lbs...I ski on the 176 cm, works like a gem.
I live in Europe and I have used GS Atomic...
I live in Europe and I have used GS Atomic skis for almost 15 years. I am 6' and 175lbs intermediate skier.
Last season I rented the BBR 8.9 186cm and loved them, not only I was able to do some off-piste, but I also felt less tired than with the GS at the end of the day. They are really enjoyable to ride and easy to carve on any kind of snow I found (though I couldn't try them on hard ice).
Later on the same season I also tried ski touring for the first time. The skies I rented were heavy and short, and the bindings were bulky and plastic-made, but for some reason I absolutely loved this sport.
Now, the thing is that I would like to buy something to replace my Atomic GS's that would be suitable for 50% piste - 30% free-ride - 20% ski touring. After checking tons of web pages and forums I've come up with a set consisting of the BBR 8.9 186cm, the G3 Onyx bindings (I think Salomon Guardian or Marker Duke would make the set too heavy) and a pair of boots like the Tecnica Cochise/Pro Light or the Scarpa Maestrale/RS.
Now, what would you think of this set?
Hi everyone, I'm 5'9" and 125lbs intermidiate...
Hi everyone, I'm 5'9" and 125lbs intermidiate skier. Will 176cm BBR 8.9 suit me?
Recommendations for the right length? What...
Recommendations for the right length? What have other people gone for? I am 5 foot 9 and usually ride a k2 172
Hey David. A huge factor in deciding what size you need will be the type of skiing you do, as well as your ability level. If you were comfy on your 172cm K2, then I would suggest grabbing the 176cm length here for the BBR. There is early rise in the tips on this ski, which decreases the effective edge, so it will actually feel like a ski slightly shorter ski than 176cm. You can also imagine that a 4cm difference (1.5 inches) really won't be too much more ski to manage, so you should be just fine. If you have more questions or concerns, don't hesitate to chat in with one of our trusty Gearheads, they love talking skis!
David, I am 5'9" and got 186cm length. You won't regret it. 176cm feels and skis a lot more like something under 170cm. 186cm probably for you will feel close to your k2. BBR 8.9 in 186cm are very responsive and easy to maneuver. If you are looking for something that will require zero adaptation then go with 176cm but will soon realize that it feels like downgrade.
One Ski Quiver
The tips just float in powder. Yet the narrow waist can handle any groomers with ease. Finishes turns effortlessly, while being very agile yet stable. What else could you ask from a ski. My only gripe is that the tips will be shredded after one season.
New Generation Performers
I recently purchased BBR 8.9 at 186cm length. Finally an all mountain ski that not only claims but really does it all. I am 5'9" and usually don't ski that long, but those are perfect. So easy to turn, carve really well on hard pack with tight arcs. Excellent on powder and crud. All mountain ski have never been performing so good. I was sick of changing skis for groomers and powder or chopped and mushy snow. The ski really allows you to step on the tips and drive it through the turn as a real race ski while if you want to be more relax and a bit back seated the ski will do it as well. People are not aware with the versatility and the power of those ski and sometimes I can hear funny comments about the shape and the width of the tips. Whoever like to carve will love them from the first run.
Salomon needs to do something better advertising them since most of the people are skeptical, judging just by the look and knowing from the past that a fat ski will not perform on groomers. Indeed it's not a fat ski, it is just designed so it can perform in any conditions.
I am going to retire few pairs of my HEAD iSupershapes well known to be one of the best carving skis.
Salomon really nailed it with the BBR.
Hey. I've demoed these beauties and am...
Hey. I've demoed these beauties and am almost ready to pull the trigger. I'm an advanced intermediate skier. What bindings to you recommend!
Hey Linda O Leisure,
The right binding for you is going to depend on what your personal DIN setting is. Find out an estimate of that at this link:
Then, the safest binding for you will be the one where your DIN setting falls closest to the middle of the DIN range of the binding. For example: if your personal DIN setting is a 7, you would want a binding with a DIN range that starts off around 3 at its lowest setting and has around an 11 for its highest setting.
Finally, don't forget to buy a binding with wide enough brakes for the ski. You want to be at least 4mm under to 10mm over what the waist measurement of the ski is (this ski is 88mm so a binding with a 90mm brake should do the trick).
The BB GNar
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
Gnarly. I felt like I could do anything with these. I just ordered the BBR 8.9 with Salomon STH 14 bindings. I demoed these on two different days at Crystal Mnt. WA along with the Volkl Mantras, Line Prophet 98, and BBR 10.0. Skied a mix of groomers, ice, thick "powder," and moguls. Did really well at the end of the day too, powering through the choppy stuff. I kept going back to the BBR 8.9. They were playful and easy to turn. They inspired confidence in my abilities and I felt less fatigued after a long run. The 10.0s are stiffer and a bit fatter but I felt they lost a bit of the playfulness the 8.9 had. It was really between these and the Mantra, which are great skis as well. But in the end I found these to be a lot more fun. Looking forward to getting my own pair!
did anybody mount tourable bindings on...
did anybody mount tourable bindings on them, and if, will their be problems tracking or sidehilling?
Could i use the skins of my k2 waybacks( also 88mm underfoot) , or should i buy a mohaircarpet?
Hey J�rgen Schulz,
Thanks for the question. Haven't used the Salomon BBR 8.9s with a touring setup personally but I don't see that anyone would have issues with mounting an AT binding on this ski except the Marker Duke for this year as it is 88mm wide at the mounting plate. I also don't envision any problems with tracking and sidehilling wouldn't be too bad with the shape of the tip the way it is.
Also, if those skins from your Waybacks are the K2 made skins, you'll want to get new ones as the K2 skin interface won't work with the Salomon BBR line. You'll need a skin that has a tip loop at least or that and a tail clip like one from Black Diamond or G3.
whats the difference between BBR 8.0 and...
whats the difference between BBR 8.0 and 8.9?
Thanks for the question. The difference between the Salomon BBR 8.0 and 8.9 is the 8.0 has more narrow dimensions, a smaller length size, slightly more sidecut and has less edge reinforcement than the 8.9. The 8.0 is more geared to the upper end beginner to middle intermediate skier that likes shorter turns while the 8.9 is meant for the more full on intermediate crowd looking to push themselves more in all conditions.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
East coast skier.. bought at end of season. Demoed many. Amazing fun. Certainly other 'specialised' skis might be better at particular aspects... none were overall as enjoyable.Yet to ski powder... eats crud... even mashed potato snow was easy! Everyone on the lift wants to talk about them!
Mt Hood- Timberline Lodge- May 27, 2012
Very Smooth and stable ride @ Mt Hood - Timberline
I got it this end of season for a great price. I tested them at timberline end of May. They were so smooth on both ice at the upper Mt Hood and on softer snow at lower mountain. I tried them on ungroomed slopes and had no problem there as well. Highly recommend these skies. Since I want to later get a different boot I got Salomon Z14 speed adjustable binding for it.
I tried these on a demo day a few weeks ago. If you are an expert skier who likes working a ski these are not for you. The tips are way too garbby and it feels like you always have to be on edge. I would go for anything other than this.