Created for the best days on the mountain.
- V-shaped early-rise tips float over pow and variable conditions without hooking
- Full wood core creates a powerful and dependable flex pattern for both carving and surfing
- Sandwich sidewall construction creates long-term durability and solid edgehold
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I live in Europe and I have used GS Atomic...
I live in Europe and I have used GS Atomic skis for almost 15 years. I am 6' and 175lbs intermediate skier.
Last season I rented the BBR 8.9 186cm and loved them, not only I was able to do some off-piste, but I also felt less tired than with the GS at the end of the day. They are really enjoyable to ride and easy to carve on any kind of snow I found (though I couldn't try them on hard ice).
Later on the same season I also tried ski touring for the first time. The skies I rented were heavy and short, and the bindings were bulky and plastic-made, but for some reason I absolutely loved this sport.
Now, the thing is that I would like to buy something to replace my Atomic GS's that would be suitable for 50% piste - 30% free-ride - 20% ski touring. After checking tons of web pages and forums I've come up with a set consisting of the BBR 8.9 186cm, the G3 Onyx bindings (I think Salomon Guardian or Marker Duke would make the set too heavy) and a pair of boots like the Tecnica Cochise/Pro Light or the Scarpa Maestrale/RS.
Now, what would you think of this set?
Hi everyone, I'm 5'9" and 125lbs intermidiate...
Hi everyone, I'm 5'9" and 125lbs intermidiate skier. Will 176cm BBR 8.9 suit me?
It's just about that time to get back into snow-mode, eh?
176 sounds suitable for your size. The 186 would likely be a bit unwieldy for an intermediate skier of your size. The 176cm will ski like a slightly shorter ski because this model does sport rocker in the tip.
Recommendations for the right length? What...
Recommendations for the right length? What have other people gone for? I am 5 foot 9 and usually ride a k2 172
Hey David. A huge factor in deciding what size you need will be the type of skiing you do, as well as your ability level. If you were comfy on your 172cm K2, then I would suggest grabbing the 176cm length here for the BBR. There is early rise in the tips on this ski, which decreases the effective edge, so it will actually feel like a ski slightly shorter ski than 176cm. You can also imagine that a 4cm difference (1.5 inches) really won't be too much more ski to manage, so you should be just fine. If you have more questions or concerns, don't hesitate to chat in with one of our trusty Gearheads, they love talking skis!
David, I am 5'9" and got 186cm length. You won't regret it. 176cm feels and skis a lot more like something under 170cm. 186cm probably for you will feel close to your k2. BBR 8.9 in 186cm are very responsive and easy to maneuver. If you are looking for something that will require zero adaptation then go with 176cm but will soon realize that it feels like downgrade.
One Ski Quiver
The tips just float in powder. Yet the narrow waist can handle any groomers with ease. Finishes turns effortlessly, while being very agile yet stable. What else could you ask from a ski. My only gripe is that the tips will be shredded after one season.
New Generation Performers
I recently purchased BBR 8.9 at 186cm length. Finally an all mountain ski that not only claims but really does it all. I am 5'9" and usually don't ski that long, but those are perfect. So easy to turn, carve really well on hard pack with tight arcs. Excellent on powder and crud. All mountain ski have never been performing so good. I was sick of changing skis for groomers and powder or chopped and mushy snow. The ski really allows you to step on the tips and drive it through the turn as a real race ski while if you want to be more relax and a bit back seated the ski will do it as well. People are not aware with the versatility and the power of those ski and sometimes I can hear funny comments about the shape and the width of the tips. Whoever like to carve will love them from the first run.
Salomon needs to do something better advertising them since most of the people are skeptical, judging just by the look and knowing from the past that a fat ski will not perform on groomers. Indeed it's not a fat ski, it is just designed so it can perform in any conditions.
I am going to retire few pairs of my HEAD iSupershapes well known to be one of the best carving skis.
Salomon really nailed it with the BBR.
Hey. I've demoed these beauties and am...
Hey. I've demoed these beauties and am almost ready to pull the trigger. I'm an advanced intermediate skier. What bindings to you recommend!
Hey Linda O Leisure,
The right binding for you is going to depend on what your personal DIN setting is. Find out an estimate of that at this link:
Then, the safest binding for you will be the one where your DIN setting falls closest to the middle of the DIN range of the binding. For example: if your personal DIN setting is a 7, you would want a binding with a DIN range that starts off around 3 at its lowest setting and has around an 11 for its highest setting.
Finally, don't forget to buy a binding with wide enough brakes for the ski. You want to be at least 4mm under to 10mm over what the waist measurement of the ski is (this ski is 88mm so a binding with a 90mm brake should do the trick).
The BB GNar
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
Gnarly. I felt like I could do anything with these. I just ordered the BBR 8.9 with Salomon STH 14 bindings. I demoed these on two different days at Crystal Mnt. WA along with the Volkl Mantras, Line Prophet 98, and BBR 10.0. Skied a mix of groomers, ice, thick "powder," and moguls. Did really well at the end of the day too, powering through the choppy stuff. I kept going back to the BBR 8.9. They were playful and easy to turn. They inspired confidence in my abilities and I felt less fatigued after a long run. The 10.0s are stiffer and a bit fatter but I felt they lost a bit of the playfulness the 8.9 had. It was really between these and the Mantra, which are great skis as well. But in the end I found these to be a lot more fun. Looking forward to getting my own pair!
did anybody mount tourable bindings on...
did anybody mount tourable bindings on them, and if, will their be problems tracking or sidehilling?
Could i use the skins of my k2 waybacks( also 88mm underfoot) , or should i buy a mohaircarpet?
Hey J�rgen Schulz,
Thanks for the question. Haven't used the Salomon BBR 8.9s with a touring setup personally but I don't see that anyone would have issues with mounting an AT binding on this ski except the Marker Duke for this year as it is 88mm wide at the mounting plate. I also don't envision any problems with tracking and sidehilling wouldn't be too bad with the shape of the tip the way it is.
Also, if those skins from your Waybacks are the K2 made skins, you'll want to get new ones as the K2 skin interface won't work with the Salomon BBR line. You'll need a skin that has a tip loop at least or that and a tail clip like one from Black Diamond or G3.
whats the difference between BBR 8.0 and...
whats the difference between BBR 8.0 and 8.9?
Thanks for the question. The difference between the Salomon BBR 8.0 and 8.9 is the 8.0 has more narrow dimensions, a smaller length size, slightly more sidecut and has less edge reinforcement than the 8.9. The 8.0 is more geared to the upper end beginner to middle intermediate skier that likes shorter turns while the 8.9 is meant for the more full on intermediate crowd looking to push themselves more in all conditions.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
East coast skier.. bought at end of season. Demoed many. Amazing fun. Certainly other 'specialised' skis might be better at particular aspects... none were overall as enjoyable.Yet to ski powder... eats crud... even mashed potato snow was easy! Everyone on the lift wants to talk about them!
Mt Hood- Timberline Lodge- May 27, 2012
Very Smooth and stable ride @ Mt Hood - Timberline
I got it this end of season for a great price. I tested them at timberline end of May. They were so smooth on both ice at the upper Mt Hood and on softer snow at lower mountain. I tried them on ungroomed slopes and had no problem there as well. Highly recommend these skies. Since I want to later get a different boot I got Salomon Z14 speed adjustable binding for it.
I tried these on a demo day a few weeks ago. If you are an expert skier who likes working a ski these are not for you. The tips are way too garbby and it feels like you always have to be on edge. I would go for anything other than this.
What's the difference between the 7.9 and...
What's the difference between the 7.9 and the 8.9 BBRs?
the 7.9 is narrower underfoot and comes in shorter sizes. It will therefore be the easier of the two.
Which carves better on hard and packed...
Which carves better on hard and packed snow, the Salomon BBR 8.9 or the Volkl Mantra?
The mantra holds an edge way better,It is a stiffer and more torsionaly rigid ski. The BBR however has a much more drastic sidecut that makes it turn incredibly easy. So bottom line, if edge hold is the most important thing, go with the mantra, If ease of turning is the most important go with the BBR.
I have 2012 Mantras and 2012 BBRs. On the hardest, iciest pack, you got to go Mantra. The ski is super stiff, turns hard and predictably. You'll rarely slip.
All that said, I enjoy the BBRs more. They're might lighter with a lot more bounce. Playful is the word for these skis.
Funny you bring this up! I have both, and I find them very similar in personality, very playful, at different speeds. I'm a good skier and I use the Mantras for skiing groomers and hard snow, probably too fast. The Mantras are better on ice, of course, very stiff, and need a fair amount of speed and input to come alive.
I use the BBR 8.9s for powder- great in powder with the huge soft shovel- but will take them out when I'm skiing with little kids etc. and am going at moderate speeds. Just grinners.., easy and fun...make you wanna do wall hits and nonsense. Zipper line bumps? sure. I have fatter powder skis, but I just throw the Beibers in the car and know I'll have a blast on anything.
The 8.9s and the Mantras are both extremely good carvers. Also I concur with what was said above on the BBR 10. I think Sollie was stung because the "chargers" thought the 8.9 too soft so they stiffened it up to please that crowd and took the fun out of it. It's trying to be a Mantra type ski, but it has none of the playfulness of the Mantra, it's just a brick. I could see a BBR 9.0- somewhere in between, stiffer in front of the toe, but not as stiff as the Dynastar Cham 97- no giggle factor there either. Put the BBR 8.9 on edge and they're plenty stable. Get them on a mountainside of Utah blower, and wow, you're a believer.
what about tele with BBR?
what about tele with BBR?
Yes ...I'm on the BBR with tele bindings ... in NY state , we only have hard snow to play on and they work well ... I had to open up my stance some to make room for the 147mm shovel of the inside ski ..so not to hit my boot ... thanks , ski on ...KIRK
Winter Park Demo Jan 2012
I demo'd these BBR 8.9s in 169cm and fell in love. They are a good all terrain sky. They float over just about anything effortlessly. Very forgiving skis. I have K2 Comanches with Salomon bindings and they compare like a base model straight cab pickup truck to the BBRs Cadillac ride. Great skis for beginners to expert. I was able to go places and do things I would have been in trouble with my K2s. Mt confidence shot trough the roof with these things. I'm going to buy a pair this season for sure. These skis made turns in hard pack/icy snow with ease, even when other skiers were spinning out! Moguls, light powder, deep powder, packed snow, ice, and transitioning between any of those conditions are a breeze. Salomon got it right with the BBRs!
What a surprise. I thought this ski would do well at the demo tent but that nobody would be buying it because it looks too goofy to perform. Now I'm thinking of picking some up.
I've never ridden a ski that carves better on hardpack. Powder is a dream. And blasting through heavy snow and chop is effortless.
Most aggressively shaped is seem to waffle around and chatter because they are always looking for an edge but these feel as stable on the straight shots as they do anywhere else. The only thing I found tough was turn initiation in tight moguls but that might just be me sucking at it.
If you are truly looking for a do it all ski. This is the one.
Has anyone used the BBR and the Sir Francis...
Has anyone used the BBR and the Sir Francis Bacon? Can you compare them for me? I had a lot of fun on the BBRs in Vail's back bowls during a demo day, but haven't been on anything else for years other than my old 1080s...
I am a strong female skier who has skied both of these. They are completely different skis. The BBR is an all mountain ski that plays well in powder, on crud, chop...everything. It has a ridiculously small turning radius as well. The Sir Francis Bacon is an 80%powder 20% all mountain ski. It is heavier, and has a much greater turning radius, but is also way more stable in an epic powder (2 plus foot) condition. So depending on where and when you want this ski for...I recommend that everyone needs both of them.The BBR will be more versatile if you are only buying one ski.
I demo'd this ski two days in a row at the end of last season in Steamboat CO. They might look like a joke but they totally rip!! the ski really makes you feel like you're surfing. its a feeling unlike any other i've had skiing. Their turning is quick and responsive, my first few runs through trees with these guys was tricky b/c when i told the ski to turn, it turned too much and took me off my like. It didn't take me long to adjust for it and soon enough i was rippin through trees faster than i ever had before! Nutshell: uber responsive, float-ability, chops through crud, and taks down groomers.
I just bought a pair.