Rossignol Super S7 Ski - 2009 BCS

I'm 6'2", 200 lbs. Shop in Whistler is mounting mine right now. They are saying that if guys intend to tour quite a bit on them, they're going minus 1. Anyone else is either centered or even going +1 if they don't intend to tour at all. I did center--- I will tour a fair bit on these but not enough to feel like I want to be any further back than centered. The pair I borrowed yesterday were center, and they were great in everything from deep pow, to hard bumps, to groomer, to hanging on my pack hiking. ;-)

Hey there,

-4 is huge! only do that if you are going to be in some deep and I mean, DEEP powder. -1 should be perfect.

10lb 6oz per pair

I ended up going with the 195's. I will post my review the end of December. Thanks for the input.

I would think twice before going with the 195. This model has extra metal and is stiffer, the 188 should be avail for demo if you live anywhere in the West. You could also play with mounting points on a demo, ski it centered then try 1cm back to account for your size. Definitly a fun ride though!

The Rossi technical bulletin on these skis, from last season at least, indicated -2 cm for powder, but I mounted them dead center and they skied great at that point. That is considered the "free ride" mounting point, which it sounds like fits your bill. FYI, I ski Snowbird and Alta on thesenskis if this helps. I expect the gear heads at BC, or your local shop would have this years technical bulletin, although I doubt it has changed since the ski has not.

If you have the skill and physical presence, these skis can do many different turn styles very well. If you are all about "big lines" than perhaps the Phantom Pro rc 112 or its predecessor the Phantom 108 would better suite you. But if you are under 200 lbs you shouldnt be questioning the stability of a 195 cm ski.

Kinda depends, how much do you weigh and how tall are you? My buddy is a 6'1" 185 lbs and says these are bomber, they def. be more stable than the S7 due to the increased metal through out. Still, they might seem like they want to engage, they have a very low turn radius. What kind of ski were you on before this?

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I'd vote 188. It will be long, enough for powder, but still playful enough for trees. If you skiied the 188's in powder and they worked, then go for them. The 195's will only add a little bit to your powder, but may take away from the swing weight.

Hey Rob--- Dunno if you already found the skis, but Sport Excess in the village has two pairs right now I believe. I was just in. I'm going to get one of them, though! Lotta snow this week, eh?

Get them now to avoid them selling out. If you want to buy online backcountry or evo has 'em, if not you should be able to find a pair at your local REI or any other ski shop around were ever you live

188 for sho. I def wouldn't feel comfortable jumping 20 cm's on a ski that's huge in every other dimension possible. You'll get enough float in the huge shovel and a pretty wide underfoot. 188 might feel a little less shocking to your skiing system.

The 195 is going to heavier and have a higher turn radius than the 188. The metal they have added in the ski is what makes up the big difference in weight between the 188 and 195. It's about 3.5 pounds. Makes the ski more stable, pushes the turn radius up, and isn't a big deal if you not doing something like touring on these skis.

Your A-Chiefs prob. had a similar turn radius to the 195's if not higher. The 173 A-C's were a 23m turn radius ski, so if you were on something higher, you will actually feel like the 195 S7 is more playful, or more hookie.

Not knowing the length you were on, id say at 6'2" 170 and the ski you were on you could go either 188 or 195. But i might lean toward the 195 for you, the 188 has a VERY LOW turn radius of 17.5m, so unless you like eruo trash turns (like me) than that (188) might feel like a ski that just wants to go sideways on you. So i'd say 195, it will ski damper, deal with varied conditions better cus of the weight, and won't nose dive like your A-C's prob. did on those reallllly deep days!

Hope that helps, it's a long answer, but it's a lot of cash to drop down.

Me: 5'8" dude weighing in at 140lbs. Snowbird pass holder/employee.

I put mine +1 from the old school freeride line since I'm not all that big and I wanted to stay well ahead of the tail rocker. I love to ski switch - but NOT on the Super 7. This is a Go Forward, Go Fast ski for sure.

It really is personal preference and riding style. With the rocker in these skis it isn't necessary (in most applications) to mount your bindings back any. I'd say go center mount for most and if its really steep and deep, go -2 at best.

one more vote for 195 cm Super 7, remember w/ the early tip & tail, you have less running surface on groomers.

super s7 it your only using them for powder 188 if you want 'em for powder and all mountain if you were and expert i'd say get the super s7 all mnt./powder

Great that your still skiing at that age. If you're 5'6-5'10" get the s7's if you're 5'11+ get the super s7 depending on how bad your knees are you might want to go with the s7 just because turning will be easier for you and your knees

I personally don't like touring with a rocker on the tail of a ski (currently run Armada JJ w/ Baron - upgrading from that this year). You need some tail to help grab snow when skinning. If the skin track gets steep or icy at all, I'm suddenly on a treadmill watching my friends get smaller and smaller in the distance. My two cents.

I put some dukes on Super 7's and used them for tourning off my sled. Key word: sled. There is no way I would ever use this settup from valley bottom or on a big traverse. The skis sink in quite a bit because of the reverse camber and I felt like a lot of energy while breaking trail vs a traditional ski like a BSquad. However, if you hammer in a track and are prepared to do laps, the settup is great.

I used the S7 last season set up with the Marker Duke Bindings. I am 6'0" 195 lbs. With your height & weight you do not want to be using the regular S7. The ski is actually a centimeter shorter then the 2008 K2 obsethed 189 ski. Rossignol and K2 measure the lenghts different.

The ski tours well, although the set up is heavy I had no problems doing 45 to 90 min tours. (Mt Baker Backcountry Washington). Plus your going to want the longer length for going down, the entire reason your touring to get to the good snow.

I use my 188 S7's for slackcountry day tours (w/ free pivot tele-bindings), and it's noticably heavier than my touring setup. Usually I pace my touring buddies, but when I have the S7's, I'm in the rear playing catch-up... but it's all worth it on the downhill.

Dot it! The "reverse sidecut" in the tip can, in fact, create some drag, but this is more of an issue when skiing than touring. Camber profile works fine with skins/skinning. Great BC ski.

I haven't toured on the Super S7. If that's how big you like your ski, then by all means, tour with it. I wouldn't want to carry the metal layer skinning. But if you're going to put Dukes on them anyway, then you might as well go all out.

I have been touring on them exclusively for two years in the wasatch. I am a lifelong backcountry skier and don't have any trouble even on 2-3 hour approaches. I did an 8 day hut trip in canada with temps in the minus 20 range and new snow and had no problems. I do run Dynafit ft-12's to save weight which may work for you. I am 6 feet even and 170 lbs.

The super s7 has a layer of titanal in the core which the regular s7 does not. This allows the ski to be more playful. Its poppier and stiffer that the regular s7. The super s7 is for the guy who is looking for a hard charging ski in the deeps, and steeps. Someone who is going to go hard every run, stomp big cliffs, and just be a all around hard charger. This ski excels in the big lines on the alaska spines. And in wide open bowls.

Rossignol FKS 180 binding

They both ski completely different. Please elaborate on your skiing style/ability

I definitely wouldn't recommend the Super S7 unless you're over 200lbs and 6'3" and ski hard. The Gotama is very different from the S7 in a lot of respects, and to best determine the ski for you, you should really demo them. Your question is way too vague to give a simple answer. Unless we know your dimensions, style, geography, and ability, no one can tell what to recommend.

Its all a matter of opinion. I personally liked the S7 a lot. However, that does not mean that you will like them more.

I'm 5'5" 115lbs, use dukes with k2 full tilt boots. 176 s7's are awesome!

Go for the 188. The S7 skis super short, but the 195 is probably too big for you.

I would advise against it, you will need a lot shorter ski than 195 cm. You're looking at a ski in the lower 160 cm range.

I'm at +2cm. I moved the binding up from the 'traditional' mount spot because of my rather small stature vs these huge skis (I'm 5'9" 140lbs).

I personally like a true center ski... and have been having a great time on these mounted at +3

It is a bit shorter, and I think it skis much shorter than it appears.

The 195cm Super is slightly SHORTER than the 189cm Obsethed.

Tradationally K2 measures very long, and Rossignol very short. This ski is not huge.

Its going to be about the same size. The K2 Obsethed in a 189 measures to about a 196 by most companies standards. I compared them side by side with a pair of Dynastar Legend XXL 195s and the Obsethed stood a centimeter over.

188s will be too soft

Ditto! They ski A LOT shorter than 195 and really its only 6 cm's longer than what your skiing not the huge of a jump.

Go with the 195! The rocker is gonna make it ski a little shorter.

u should go for the 188. its very stable!!!

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Weight: 11.90 lb [pair]

The 22.5m turn radius is really pretty poppy! That's about on par with something like the Volkl Mantra, but in the 184 length! (my guess is that this is due to the early rise, and the mantras might be a touch heavier)

Short answer, I ski the mantra, 184 (22.5m turn radius), and im 5'11'' 172lbs, and i suspect that at 6'2", 240 on the 195 you'll be fine in the pines. Depending on what you rode before they might take a little getting used too, so take it easy. But for the size of the ski (length and shovel/tail) the S7's really can't be beat. Volkl's similar size offerings would take you up into the high 20's for turn radius, and Blizzard's similar offering would launch into the 30m range, easily!

As a bigger guy, if you are an expert skier, I would go with the Super S7. But it really depends on whether you like soft or stiff skis. I have skied everything from EP Pro's which are about as soft as you can get to Stockli's and finding the balance is all about testing skis and feeling what you like. But my hunch is the Super S7's are the better all around tool for you.

'95 for sure. The rocker tip and tail and slightly tapered shape keeps the S7 really nimble. With your size, you would really benefit from the titanal reinforcements found only in the Super 7. While aspen groves and east coast trees would be a lot of work due to how tight the growth is, your standard mountain west pine forest runs are going to be a lot of fun and the spaced out glades around the Tahoe resorts are going to be a total blast. \