Rossignol 2011/2012 Super 7 Ski

You won't have trouble driving either ski, so it just comes down to whether you want the bigger landing pad or a slightly turnier ski. Check out the Blister review as he discusses the characteristics of each length:

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/review-2011-2012-rossignol-super-7

He didn't like the ski for a given style of skiing, but it has been one of the more highly praised sticks around for the past couple of years so if you think it's for you, just focus on the differences between the two lengths in that review.

I'm 6'2" 180 and wont ski anything bigger then 190. its just not necessary. These will float in pow and still maintain a good hold on groomers in the 188. DUDERINO!

Rossi Pivot and PX work well. From experience I would say to stay away from Tyrolia/Head/Fischer Peak 18x and similar because they are too sloppy in roll to drive fatter skis well. Haven't used the Jesters.

Marker Jester or Jester Pro, the wide chasis is great on these skis. The Rossi binding actually looks goofily narrow. The Marker is bomber, and the green in either the Jester or Jester Pro would look good on this ski.

I'm 5'9'' and 140lbs and I ski the 188. As soon as your weight takes out the camber, you lose a TON of ski. I agree with Dave. 195 all the way.

If you plan on staying out of the trees, go for as much surface area as possible and get the 195. They won't over power you.

Last year, I demo'd a pair of S7's and liked them, but then after some research that night, decided to buy a pair of Keepers the next day (with no demo) after narrowing my choices down to the Super 7 or Keeper. I was especially not happy with how Keepers handled in chop - they bounced around with inconsistent control and were more difficult to initiate a turn. Ended up returning them (losing $150 in doing so, because they were now mounted) and buying the 2012 Super 7's 188. Skiied my Super 7's for 7 days at the end of last year and absolutely love them. I am an advanced/expert 6'4, heavier body size, and ski with more power than finesse, if that helps.

I hand flexed them both and the Keeper is definitely much stiffer. Bentgate agrees.

I wanted to demo them both but could never make it happen. I just bought the Keeper instead but don't have any days on it yet to comment.

What I have picked up is that the Super7 doesn't perform all that well in the chowder though it is damper because of the metal topsheets. Hope that helps.

I think you'll find the S7's a bit stiffer. This year's version features some metal sheets (Titanium I think?) in their construction while the keepers, as far as I know, do not. I think the S7's also have more rocker.

I am 6'2 and 195. I love the 195s. You will be happy you had the extra length in the powder, still very easy to control in trees as well. On hard pack they ski very short due to the rockered tip and tail. Great Ski!

I have skied this is a 195 for the past couple seasons and I am 6'1", 180. That size has worked fine in a variety of conditions in Utah, I suspect you'd find the same in the Alps. I would not consider the 188 when I bought mine because it had no metal, but that is no longer the case, so the choice becomes slightly harder. Will you be focusing on big lines, or more technical descents? That last consideration will tip the balance in your ultimate choice. In the end, sounds like 195 though.

This is a quick ski due to the rocker design, and I have skied the Super S7 for the last 2 seasons in a 195 and have skied plenty of tight trees, I am 6'1" 180. However, now that the 188 is available with a metal layer that might give you a little more leeway, while still being a stout ride. i don't think you can go too wrong in either size, but at 6'4" you might lean to the 195.

Depends on how you want to ski. If you want a ski you can play around with then mount at the 0. But for a more hard charging type ski mount -2. Personally with the super 7's. I would mount -2. Its not the type of ski you are going to be throwing a lot of tricks with. And at -2. You will be forced to stay forward on your skis putting you in a better skiing position.

I use G3 alpinist and the clips seem to work well on the S7.

G3 and BD are the top skins out there. Check out mohair or mohair mixes for best glide. For full coverage get a skin that is 140mm wide.

From Rossignol:

195cm Super 7 = 5,430g / 11.95 lbs
188cm S7 = 4,570 g / 10.05 lbs

Unfortunately they told me they don't have weight info for the 188 Super 7.

Just stomp your landings on these boys and your all good, you should never be in the backseat anyway!

next year its 178 s7 for me unless i grow and then i'll get the 188 super s7.

i think rossignol designed the ski to put you in the backseat a little bit. But yes a wider tail would be better for backseat landings and would allow you to ride switch. a fatter tail would be better for a big mountain ski. it would be better for drops and be more stable. if rossignol widened the tail they'd have the ultimate big mountain ski. i understand what rossignol was thinking when they created the tail but i much prefer to have my tips and tails on top of the snow when shredding pow. if they widened the tail the super s7 would the the best free ride ski ever

A wider tail would make it ski more like a JJ/Bent Chet/etc. The deliberate pin-tail of the Super7 and its variants is for a couple of reasons. First and foremost it makes the ski very nimble for it's size. You can easily go full throttle anywhere (and hit the brakes when needed!) but also bounce around in really tight trees without eating any of them. But the secret sauce is that a large amount of taper towards the tails makes the S7 family very Everyman friendly. I see out-of-towners every day at Snowbird on S7 demos laughing and firing around the whole mountain, having a blast.

So yes, a wider tail would cater very well to freestyle oriented experts and help save the day if/when you land backseat going big. But I think the S7 family is more supposed to reward directional big mountain skiers as well as get more peeps going on more of the mountain...for better or worse.

Think Pontoon with more sturdiness and versatility, and less JJ/Bent Chet clone and you've got the S/Super7.

Have fun!

yah i think rossingol thinks making it stiffer solves the sidecut problems. i think they should make the sidecut either widen the tail to 137 or narrow the tip and widen the ski to 145-127-140

Very wierd that this came out like this. One week ago out at Jackson Hole, Wyoming I saw one of the Pro's S7's ski. Same design. Although I was looking at the deminsions and it was 146-120-130. Very wierd. Also the taper was brought down.

i think they are supposed to be pillows

Also new size. Super7 construction now available in 188cm.

Yep, this is the 2012 version of the ski, so it features new graphics.