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Make soul turns just about anywhere.

The idea that one fat ski can serve as your entire quiver isn't a new one, but Rossignol took the ball and ran with it into entirely new territory with the Soul 7. Versatility defines the Soul 7 and drives its unique engineering. Instead of metal, the Soul 7 has lightweight paulownia wood at its core for liveliness and pop. Gone are the heavy, floppy tips you find in most fat, rockered rides; here you'll find a honeycomb structure built into the tip and tail, a touch that drastically reduces swing weight and moves the mass of the ski under your foot for improved stability and edging control. Progressive rocker keeps the tip and tail floating above deep snow, although you'll find that the amount of rocker has been reduced slightly at the tip and more dramatically at the tail. There's no need to adjust your touch or change your approach when faced with new terrain because this ski does the majority of the work. Float through backcountry powder lines, drop hammers on the corduroy, and blast through chewed-up chunder with reckless abandon.

With the introduction of the Soul 7, Rossignol has also renamed its rockered, freeride series from the S-series to the 7-series. For those familiar with the S7, the Squad 7, and the Smash 7, the Soul 7 feels similar to the controlled, smoothness of the S7 but has the precise edging and directional control of the S3. True powder snobs will rack the Soul 7 next to a mega-fat pow ski, but for everyone else, this ski is one you can mount with a high-din alpine binding for the resort or a free-heel touring binding for ditching the lift in search of the true soul turns.

  • Power Turn Rocker full rocker profile with a low tip and tail rise
  • Sandwich construction layers wood core and ABS sidewalls between the topsheet and base
  • Aggressive sidecut for a 17 meter turn radius
  • Air Tip honeycomb structure reduces swing weight at the tip and tail
  • Free V.A.S. visco-elastomer material provides vibration reduction

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what binding would you recommend for this ski?

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Bindings are always personal preference. But the new Rossignol Axial 3 in black and yellow is an awesome way to go. The Rossignol FKS series also a great choice if you want the turntable heel.

Marker Griffon is always one of my favorites but if i have the chance to use a matching binding to blend with the ski better I will often go that route.

Many choices but pick the brake width appropriate for the ski and make sure you also get the DIN range that suits you best.

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I bought these through a mega-pro-deal, so I couldn't beat the price. And it's a good thing I got them so cheap. I'm 6'2", 215lbs, and these skis do not hold my weight. At all. In pow, the waist is too narrow and I catch edges easily. On groomers, the tips chatter mercilessly. They do want to go though, but in a straight line: There just isn't enough camber to assist the edges for carving. It seems to me that the honeycomb tips are just a novelty. Disappointing.

I am trying to decide between the 174 and the 180 cm Soul 7s. I am 5'5" and weigh 128 lbs. I ski primarily in New England but take a trip out west about once a year. I am an advanced / expert skier and am used to a slalom ski. I use my Head Supershapes (160 cm, turn radius 10.7) on the groomers and bumps. I am looking for a ski that will go primarily in the trees in the east (so quick turning is key) but also work in the powder out west. Also want to be able to put some skins on and try a little backcountry. What length S7 would you suggest for me?

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172 is my vote! My wife is 5'6" 138lbs and skis a 175 Armada VJJ as her powder ski and would not want it any longer at all.

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comparing the soul 7 vs. the sin 7 -- are the claimed weights for each both ref'ing a 180 ? it looks like the soul 7 (bigger ski by width) is almost 0.8 lb lighter than the sin 7 -- is that right?

Hello, I am wondering which skis i should buy : Rossignol Soul 7 or Armada TST. I want light, all mountain (powder preference) ski.
Please help me.

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Hi there,

Both very good skis but very different characteristics in my personal opinion. You need to know your ability level and how you like to approach your ski days. Fast, charging, powerful or finesse, playful, jibbier is more or less what I'm looking for before giving a strong recommendation.

TST has a much more stable and stiffer flex pattern throughout the flex of the ski, especially in the rear half of the ski. It will have a tendency to sit down and blast through nasty crud and busted up snow much better than the Soul. Soul is much softer and will try to stay on top of any of those snow conditions and get tossed around more.

TST is heavier, more damp, and will hold an edge better on firm snow even though it doesn't have any metal in it. Soul is extremely light, tips will flap more at high speeds and won't hold an edge on firm snow like the TST. They are both great skis by all means but cater to different people.

Light, all mountain (powder preference) ski to me equals Soul 7 over the TST but again know what you are really looking for. Hope that answers some questions.
SF

I wanted some feedback on the Soul 7s, I want a pair of more nimble, powder skis that I could use somewhat regularly on groomers and harder pack days. I have typically skied heavier, stable downhill skis. I am 6-6 220lbs and currently ski an older pair of Dynastar Legend 8800s -188cm. I demo'd some K2s the last couple years - Kung Fujas and Shreditors and loved the feel and float in trees and powder. Sounds like the Soul7s would be as good if not better as the K2s and similar to better on harder pack? Just wanted some reassurance as to the 'all mountain' nature of the Soul7s.

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This is a very versatile ski, I just worry that if you liked the Legend then this wont be enough ski for you. Its not the stiffest in its category by any means. Definitely more nimble than the Legend but, if you like to go fast on those skis, these will not have the same stability. Not saying you shouldnt grab this but, just want you to know its not as stiff as the Legend. Take a look at the Atomic Automatic 102 or the Salomon Rocker 2 108, those are some stiffer options.

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Thanks Bill. Yeah, I figured there is a lot more give in the souls. I do love the stability/carving of the Legends, but wanted to pick up a pair of skis that would float more when needed and have a little more fun than speed. I will take a look at the others you mentioned - I do appreciate the help.

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Agree with Bill from above on the stability issue. Another ski I think you will find a little more stable with a directional feel is the Sick Day Series in the 186cm. Downfall is their switch riding ability if you care about that.


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These skis were not stable or nimble under my 160lbs on any terrain, in any snow depth, or at any speed. The flimsy corrugated tips & tails flap around like cardboard on hardpack, and fold in the crud or on backseat landings. Aside from Rossi's advertising dollars, I have no idea why magazine testers keep recommending these to anyone: it's currently fashionable to say that flat tails are the "fix" to the high-rise tail rockered design of the S7, but given how flimsy this ski is, all a flat tail does is get in the way of pivoting in deep snow. Big guys should be looking at Gotamas & the Cochise in this waist width. Powder newbies should look at something fatter with more tail rocker. Everyone else? Give it a miss, it's mediocre in soft snow, and worse everywhere else.

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I just went to a little ski hill to try them for the first time, (I'm 220lb with the 180cm)knowing that the snow would be hard and icy, to have a ideal what could be the worst they would feel. and they did perform well :-)
I don't regret buying them and cant wait to try them in some real snow

hi guys
I will buy this ski asap, I am too trill about all those reviews, I am just struggling between the 180 and 188cm. I am 5'10, 220lb (will loose 20 lol) 38years old, I will mainly ski in sunshine village, I consider myself a advance aggressive skier that always looking for a cliff, powder, trees area, steep and groomed trail with the family as well. I have been skiing with k2 apache recon 160cm. too small I know, great ski but not the best when I find the powder. I would like the 188 for stability when I like too go really fast on hardpack snow but was thinking about 180cm for days I want to freestyle or head for the trees area
thx for any reply
jl

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188cm is my vote based more on your weight than anything else. Also your comments and cliffs and powder will leave you wanting more than the 180cm can deliver, especially at an speed.

This ski is light, very light!!! Low swing weight too. Tight turn radius too so you will find that it will handle tight spots very easy.

Going really fast on hard pack is not what this ski is for so as long as you realize that before purchasing you will be ok.

If you want something that shares its playfulness but is a touch wider don't disregard the new Armada JJ2.0 185cm.

Hope that helps,
SF



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Dear Jib, call the pros here at Backcountry: you are sending all kinds of mixed messages: K2 Apache 160cm, cliffs, aggressive & 220lbs? This does not compute. Someone of your purported size, skill, & aggression should be on a 185-195 bruiser of a ski like a Moment Bibby or a Volkl, not a soft recreational carver. The Soul 7 you are looking at here will actually be a downgrade from what you currently have on hard snow: the Soul 7 has the worst hard-snow carving performance of the dozens of 100mm+ skis I've been on, and I weigh 60lbs less than you.
Make the call, be honest w/ the salespeople & yourself about what you're really going to be doing on skis 90% of the time, and go from there.

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thx everyone, I bought them before I got your answer skifreak. I went with the store recommendation, knowing that I wanted to do some 360, moguls, ect
it is a good jump in size for me anyway from my 160cm.
Bergmann, I wanted a bigger ski for powder/all mountain.
I will still use my apache and hope to buy another pair for fast downhill, I was leaning toward the blizzard regulator or bonafide.
I will try to get on a bunch of demo this winter, I believe that I never had the right ski for me in the past, and I love to ski everything. I would be grateful for any ski recommendation and I will look at the ones you guys mention.
thx again

I'm 5'11 about 200lbs and am looking for a good ski. I currently don't own any skis and typically rent demos when I go out, so I'm unfamiliar with sizing. What I do know is that I typically stay on blacks with some blues mixed in. I want to advance in my skiing, so I'm considering this year starting to try double blacks and some powder. I don't go in trees often, but that is something else I'm going to start getting into. Would this ski be a good fit or should I go with something else, like a sick day 95 or 110? Also, what length would be suggested?

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What kind of skis have you been renting? Narrow integrated ski and binding systems or any wide rockered skis?

Either would work well for you. I lean a little towards Sick Day series only because of its more traditional feel on the snow versus the Soul 7. Won't feel as strange on your feet but then again it also depends on what kind of skis you have been demoing.
Soul is more surfy, floaty, softer, lighter, less stable in busted up snow and on groomers.
SD will be more stable on groomers and in busted up snow, float very well but not quite as good as the Soul in very deep snow. If your preference was more on piste than off go Sick day, if you are planning on spending more time off trail in deepe snow then choose Soul 7.
Can't go wrong either way but it really depends what you have been on in the past and enjoyed.





Thinking about getting these skis in the 180cm size. I'm 6'1, 185lbs and love tight trees and mostly off trail skiing. I want the extra maneuverability, but I keep hearing that I should size up. Would that be the right course of action, even if i like those tight, obscure spots?

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188cm for sure but can I ask what your are currently skiing on and what length to verify my recommendation?

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I used to ski on 09 K2 Apache Xplorers 170cm. fully cambered and pretty heavy. This is going to be a significant change in skis

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So I got the 180s because of a miscommunication but I think I'm going to try them out. What are the benefits of the 180s in contrast to the 188s? I might size up but If there are any significant perks to staying smaller I would like to know

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Only perks to the smaller ski for you would be a quicker and easier transition to a big rockered ski, especially coming off of a 170. Lighter, quicker, tighter turn radius, easier to slam through a deep mogul run, spins easier, etc....

I'm your size, just slightly lighter and would only buy the 188cm! But I wouldn't be skiing the Soul 7 on groomer days so staying long offers the big advantages in soft and deeper snow over the 180cm.

If you are a conservative, laid back, non charging skier that prefers really short turns, and has generally a more relaxed way of approaching your ski day then going for the 180cm will be ok, particularly coming off of what you have.

If you want this ski to be with you for years to come, ski any amount of deep snow on a regular basis, aggressively approach the mountain, are in good shape, and never want to second guess yourself go 188cm. Your size calls for it!









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Thanks! I think I will be sizing up! And again, I love off trail skiing. Corridors of trees and the woods are my passion. I do like making finesse, short turns when i'm dodging trees. The 188s won't prove to be cumbersome in that setting?

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Well at your size no, as long as you are a good strong skier with skills. The surface area is a BIG step up for you but the turn radius of these skis is very short and they are extremely light. Swing weight is also low. You will go through a period of adjustment for sure but in time it should be the right choice.

If you are truly wanting a very short, quick, tight turning experience in all the tight spots of your hills and not confident in your skiing ability then stay shorter and in time size up, it's only money right, lol.

Also remember that Rossignol should always stand by your purchase with their perfect fit guarantee. And if buying from Backcounry their own policies will back you up if you choose wrong.


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I am 17 and have been skiing since the age of 3. I would consider myself an expert. Thanks so much for the advice, I will definitely be riding the 188s this winter. If I may ask, how do they hold up at speed? what you have you pushed them to and still felt stable?

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As a reference my step son is 6' 155lbs, 17 years old and this year he will be skiing 184cm Line Sir Francis Bacons and they ski pretty short where he has them mounted.
I have not spent a ton of time on Soul 7, I spent quite a bit of time on the new Super 7. Either of these skis are not speed skis by any means. Big rockered tips do flap at speeds no matter what marketing says and high speed bombing through crud is not their forte. Edge grip and stability are decent for what the ski is, but realize what the skis purpose is and you won't be disappointed.

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I only through my son in there as a 17 year old reference for ski size. The tip on the Soul 7 will float substantially better than a Bacon in anything deep, not that the Bacon isn't good it just doesn't have that massively rockered shovel like the Soul.

I would never give up the everyday fun factor of the SFB 184cm for the longer 190cm, but that's me. For me it would take the short round radius carving out of the ski that I absolutely love. Its not as light as the Soul but you really don't notice that part on your feet, swing weight is low.
My sons are mounted on Eric Pollards recommended line and for me thats a little forward. I would drop it back more to gain deep float.

The 188cm Soul 7 is a good length for you. You are only going to get bigger and heavier with age. I don't think you would like the 190cm Bacon near as much as the 188cm Soul. The 184cm Bacon is a total kick in the pants but can't compare to the 188cm Soul on a deep day in my opinion.

Just bag all this back and forth and buy a 185JJ and call it quits. LOL, I'm only kidding. Don't confuse yourself with too many skis. Pick one that you think calls out to you, slap a great binding on it, and send some selfies with a huge smile on your face!!

SF


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Haha thanks man, I really appreciate all the advice. you've been instrumental in helping me choose.

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Anytime!! Its not easy, even for us old guys that are out helping others its very difficult to purchase gear for ourselves.

Also posted on Line, but this thread seems to get more action:

Any thoughts on the Line Sick Day 110 vs the Rossi Soul 7's as one quiver skis? How bout the Sick Day 95's? I'm 6'1 about 195, 47y.o., so not quite as aggressive as I used to be, but still enjoy most everything on the mountain. I would rate myself as advanced, but not expert(I'll ski double blacks safely, but not pretty). Currently skiing on some OLD 180 Atomic skinny skis. Any thoughts and size recs greatly appreciated!

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You're lucky in that anything you pick up will put a huge smile on your face in comparison to your old atomics in anything soft. Either of the Lines you mentioned will have a more familiar feel to you versus the Soul 7. Line will favor a little bit more directional feel where the Soul 7 will have more surfy and smeary characteristics. And if riding switch is your thing then Soul is the better of the two.

You will get more stability in uneven conditions and busted up crud on the Line's, Soul 7 is very light and all the rocker in the tips gets tossed around. You need to decide on what width you are looking for before thinking to hard about the SD 95, great ski by all means just narrower than the other two. If you are looking for a one ski quiver and you really do prefer ALL MOUNTAIN every day then the Line Sick Day 95 is a great step up from your Atomics. More soft snow powder specific one ski quiver then the 110 or Soul 7 is the way to go.

Feel free to keep twisting my ear,
SF

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Thanks, Skifreak. You're right, I think anything new will be incredible. I mostly ski Snowmass, with the occ. trip to Highlands or Ajax. Probably spend the majority of my time on marked trails. I love to find the powder stashes when I can, but most of my time will be with family and friends on groomed blues and blacks. So that's the ski I'll need most of the time, but I want a ski that can keep up when my kids say, "hey Dad, follow me". Sounds like maybe the sick day 95s would be right for me. Any other skis you would recommend and what kind of length?

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It all depends on how old they are and what kind of gear they have, I know the feeling though. At your weight the 186cm SD95 is the right length, same with the SD110 and the Soul 7 is 188cm. Based on your decscription above the 95 width category seems like the smarter choice in my opinion. You will be blown away with its deep snow float in comparison to your old gear, night and day! But it's still a blast on groomed snow. It's not an old GS race ski by any means but you have to get that out of your head, the benefits in all the soft snow and mixed condition far makes up for it. I throughly enjoyed the time I spent on the SD95.

Other skis in that category I would recommend are Blizzard Kabookie or its metal brother the Bonafide, Rossignol Sin 7, new Mantra is very fun but stiffer and more demanding than the SD95, Salomon Rocker2 100 is a new ski this year which impressed me very much. Scott The Ski was a favorite of mine as well as some Fischer Rangers.

It gets overwhelming very fast so try and keep it between 2-4 and narrow it done from there. I'm here to keep helping you as you need it.








Looking at getting a pair of soul 7's. I'm 6'3 and 200lb so looking at the 188's. I'll be skiing mainly in Vermont this winter but doing some trips out to Colorado and Whistler so wanted a ski that would be all right in VT and then really at home in the powder/off piste out west. I'm also looking for some recommendations on bindings. I'm a pretty aggressive advanced/expert skier, normally have my DIN at around 10-11.

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Rossignol FKS 140 or FKS 180. They're really beefy bindings and have a good release.

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Raymond is spot on with the bindings.
I'm similar size and experience level as you. I demo'd this ski in 180 and 188, The bigger size was perfect. Its an awesome ski!! Carves turns well and still floats in the fluffy stuff. I do notice the lighter weight on long chair rides over my other skis.
Cheers!

5'5 140lbs. Expert/agressive skier. Like both tight turns as well as open bowl, glade skiing. Went to local ski shop to purchase but not sure on sizing i.e.. 172 v 180?

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Can I ask what are your current skis and the length? Also what part of the country do you ski? Looking to use this as an everyday ski or specialty soft snow ski?

SF

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Thanks for the reply. Ski Volkl 6 star 175 on corduroy days and 168 G4 Vertigo for all other. spend most of the time on the G4. Ski Idaho and Utah. Spend most days in powder...Thanks

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Hmmmm. Those are very skinny and stiff so tough comparison to the newer skis. The width, surface area, and rocker will make all the difference in the world in soft snow on the Rossi's. Even staying with the 172cm will be a night and day different experience for you. The 172 cm will ski very short on anything firm compared to your old skis but don't even try to compare them on hard groomed conditions.

My wife is 5'6" 138lbs and very aggressive and if I was buying Soul 7 for her I would aim towards the 172 for more all around fun in tight spots, trees, and moguls. She skis a 175 VJJ, and 163 Volkl Kenjas as a reference.

Tough call for me. If looking for a more specific soft snow powder ski and want maximum float and more stability in crud then go 180cm. If looking to upgrade your older skis to the newer technology and wanting to try something easy, fun, quick, better in moguls for your size then the 172cm will work.

If on the fence on length with this ski then go longer!!! Nobody ever buys this ski too long but they do complain about buying it too short.

SF

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SF
Thanks for the great input..I am definitely on the fence and don't want to feel like they are to short. Want a specific soft powder ski so will go with 180. Looking forward to powder days!
Thanks again for your help!
Jess

5'10, 185 lbs, advancing skier on 182 Fischer Watea 101s. Love wide open turns in pow pow, but need something nimble for tight turns when all the untouched pow is in the trees. My biggest weaknees is cutting tight lines in trees, but I'm worried by going 180 I'll lose that float on the deep days? Looking to also mount G3 ion bindings for backcountry access. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong ski, maybe I should be thinking 180 Super 7 at my weight? Anyone have any advice?

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Johny,

Soul 7 in the 188cm length at your weight and even your height. I want to throw an Armada JJ or this years Armada JJ2.0 into the mix for you in the 185cm length.

I can't recommend the Super 7, just MY personal opinion but I was not a fan of the ski. I would ski a JJ any day over the Super 7 in any conditions. I did enjoy the Soul 7 more than the super though.

180cm Soul 7 will feel pretty short for you I'm afraid. 188cm might take a little getting used to but once you do it will be the right choice. Again also consider the 185 JJ, tight spots, tight trees, deep snow, moguls all add up to JJ fun.

Good luck,
SF

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This ski feels like it skis "shorter" I really wanted the 180s but after trying the 188 I'm glad I went bigger. I'm normally on 178-185s. Just like Skifreak, I wasn't a fan of the Super7. I heard its cause I'm not fan of stiff skis and they need more direction. The Soul7s are fun, can really open them up and rail some turns but they're quick and agile to.
Cheers

Hey!

Im considering this ski, but can't really decide on the length. I'm about 180-185 lbs, 9'3.5".
Advanced skier, can take on anything, like both tight turns in the forest and high speeds in the open. Previously skied mantra 177. What would you recommend 180/188?

Thanks a lot!

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Tough question. This ski is not nearly as stiff as that Mantra you have been on. I think you could easily handle the 188cm if you are looking to size up.

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Andy,

High speeds in the open?? Soul 7? Those do not go together in my opinion and I think most people would agree.

You can't even compare a Mantra and a Soul 7, if you try you will be sadly disappointed in certain conditions while in other aspects you will put a smile on your face. Just make sure you are buying the Soul for the right conditions. If you have always liked your Mantra in a 177cm then you have to go up to the 188cm for the Soul 7.

Sorry for the brutal honesty but wanting to make sure you have your information correct.

SF

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Hi, thanks for your answers. I did have the chance to demo the Soul 7 in 188 last weekend, and just as you said, it was not a ski for me. Zero edgehold in harder conditions, too turny. Do you have any other recommendations regarding a pow-compatible ski that can handle harder snow as well and that can be toured with?

Armada TST? Line sick day? New mantra?

Thank you for your advice!

Hey guys, I need some advice on sizing, since I seem to be in that gray area between the 180 and 188. I'm 5'11" & about 162 lbs without gear. I Switched back to skiing from snowboarding last season(expert snowboarder) and would rate myself intermediate in-bounds, but I'm new to powder skiing. I am improving rather quickly though with in my skiing ability. I sky the swiss alps, and will be using the Soul 7 mainly for touring and freeriding (I'm mounting a tech binding), but also in-bounds in soft snow conditions. In the backcountry I mostly ski open bowls and prefer larger turns. I'm kind of worried that the 188 will be too much to handle for my skiing ability and that it will be too big for touring. On the other hand everybody seems to be saying that sizing up is the way to go. What do you think?

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You are in between for sure in my mind, its the converting snowboarder that throws me a little for a length to recommend. Size up is what we all recommend but your situation is a little tougher. What was the last pair of skis that you skied on and what length?

If you are going to ski aggressively in big open terrain and see yourself improving very fast then I would say 188cm. if you want to stay a little quicker, more manueverable in tight spots and moguls then you really won't have any issues on the 180cm at your weight.

Tough call but base it on what you have skied before and lets see what others say.

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Last season I was skiing in-bounds only and it was a 2008 Atomic Race GS in 174 cm. It's a traditional camber ski though. Here's the link:

http://global.skipass.com/gearguide/atomic/race-gs-12.html

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That will be a tough comparison for anybody to go off of, skinny and stiff, lol. Your Atomic race ski will feel longer and stiffer on your feet than a 180cm Soul 7 will in any terrain. The 180cm will put such a smile on your face in comparsion to that Atomic in any condition other than groomed runs. I'm 6'1" 178lbs 43 years old and wouldn't even consider buying anything other than the 188cm Soul 7. I don't ski the swiss alps by any means and big open bowl skiing is not what we have in my area.

In all honesty if you are able to demo the skis at the beginning of the season that will help immensely, Soul 7's are everywhere and finding a pair to try shouldn't be that hard. I'm still going to stick with my statement from above.

If you are going to ski aggressively in big open terrain and see yourself improving very fast then I would say 188cm. If you want to stay a little quicker, more manueverable in tight spots and moguls then you really won't have any issues on the 180cm at your weight.

SF

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Another snowboard switching back to skis, I usually ski 178-185cm skis but did get these in the 188 after trying the 180. Just too squirrelly.
I thought the same thing that it would be too much for me but the rocker tip and tail "shorten" the handling of the ski.
Good luck!!

I am considering the Soul 7 (188 cm) with the Rossignol FKS bindings. Most recommendations are for the FKS 140, but I think the orange would clash with the yellow so am considering the FKS 120 which comes in black. I am 6'2", 185 lb, advanced but not super aggressive. Based on DIN charts the 120 seems like it would be fine, but wondering if it is still better to go with the 140. I could get over the orange and yellow if it is the better binding.

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Scott,

I'm 6'1" 178lbs 43 year old expert and ski with a DIN setting of 8.5-9 on all my skis. Sure I don't huck myself off cliffs or get big air in the park but have never in my life needed more DIN than that. I would be perfectly comfortable skiing the FKS 120 for myself.

Where has your DIN been set on anything else you ski? Another binding to look at is this years redesigned Rossignol Axial 3 in black/yellow. Same toepiece as the FKS without the turntable heel. Sweet binding as well.

FKS 140 will be a touch beafier indeed but base your decision on what you have been using in the past. Good luck.

SF

My current skis have a 68cm waist (they're 10 yrs old). I ski black diamonds and double blacks when I want to challenge myself, blues when I'm tired. I would guess I'm on the piste 90% of the time but do like to cut into the fresh powder for a couple hundred meters when it presents itself. I never ski in trees. The snow is powder to medium moisture and usually with very few icy patches if any. My friend owns and recommends the Soul7 but they look like they are for ski jumping compared to my current pair and I worry I won't be able to turn them easily. I'm leaning towards the Experience 88 but have been told the will bog down in 4-5 inches of powder. I'm 6ft tall, 175 lbs. I was looking at 172-180cm length.
What do you think?

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Franz , Maybe you should check out the Sin 7 or the Experience 100 , that way you have more of an All Mountain Ski. Both these Skis will Float in Powder but still be easier to turn on Piste. The Sin has a more similar shape to the Soul 7 and the Experience 100 has a more traditional ski shape.

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Franz if your current ski is 68 underfoot and you ski powder now you certainly wont get bogged down with the Experience 88. I skied that ski all last year as well as another backcountry touring ski that is 88 underfoot. I have found that you do have to porpoise in and out of the snow like the "old" style of powder skiing. If you went up to the Soul 7 you would most likely find yourself changing the way you ski powder because you will get much more float, and a surfy feeling, maybe even finding yourself going faster because scrubbing speed is much easier when you are on top.

So between these two skis its more about what you want to do on them. Soul 7 is going to give you a great experience making a more slarving, pivot, easier turn in fresh snow because you will stay on top but, you wont get the same carving feeling as you would with the Experience 88. Its more crisp and faster edge to edge but, in the fresh snow you have to porpoise in and out to make sure the tips dont get bogged down, more work, more turns than the Soul 7.

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Franz,

I share both Sorens and Bills opinions and wanted to add my two cents. With you coming off a 68cm waisted ski anything you pick will make soft snow so much more fun. You will be turning that 90% on piste to more like 60-70% for sure just with getting a wider shaped ski.

I would have a tendency to recommend skis like Sin 7, Line Sick day 95, Atomic Theory, Nordica NRGY90, Experience 88, Blizzard Brahma or Bushwacker and so on in that 88+ waist width for all day versatility. Again this is based on you coming off a 68mm ski.

You could jump all the way up to the Soul 7 if truly wanting a more soft snow oriented ski but if you are wanting a daily driver that handles groomed runs very well in a fashion like you are accustomed too I can't recommend the Soul for this, stick with the Sin 7 if wanting Rossi.

Another way to look at it is this. If you jump all the way up to a 105mm+ waisted big rockered ski right away you miss out on how fun the little bit narower all mountain skis really are. Work your way through the technology in stages and build a quiver.

Remember that anything you buy in todays skis will blow away what you're currently using on the soft snow days. And at your size don't be afraid to size up, the 180cm range is correct for most of the skis I mentioned. Soul 7 I would be pressed to say go for the 188cm.

Good luck and hopefully that didn't confuse you too much.

SF

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Thanks guys for your input. I'm going to demo skis in the mid-80 and mid-90 range and see which I like better. The Sin 7 looks a lot more manageable than the Soul 7s do.

Hi there, I just read through the entire thread and am a bit undecided on size. I am 6' 155lbs and am an aggressive to expert skier. I like charging lines, trees, moguls and just bumping around anywhere on the mountain. I am in-between the 180 and 188. Height wise I am thinking the 188 is the way to go, but a little skeptical that my light weight should make me go 180. I am 21, so not getting any taller but will likely still fill out a bit. I want these skis to last a few years!
Thanks for any help

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Taylor,

I have a few questions for you to answer.
1. What are you currently skiing on and what length?
2. What part of the country do you ski in?
3. Will you be using these as a one ski quiver or a fresh/deep snow ski?

Sizing up on this ski is what I recommend for most people and especially at 21 years of age with your aggressiveness. You do sit in between sizes but I weigh many factors when offering advice so that I can provide a very educated recommendation.

Go ahead and shoot me back some answers to the questions above and I will lock down my recommendation.

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Hey thanks for replying so quick.

1. My current ski is a volkl wall 177. It is my park ski. I grew up in the East so I spent quite a bit of time in the park when conditions were icy. More so when I was younger. Travel out west a few weeks every year and in the past I have rented a few different big mountain skis depending on conditions. Volkl Gotama & Soloman Rockers, if conditions were bad I would just stick with my walls. This would mainly be an out west ski for me but if conditions are right I would for sure break it out here in the East.

2. I ski in bounds but the most advanced in bounds terrain at Whistler, Revelstoke. I do ski a lot of trees, but love open alpine lines when conditions are right.

3. For sure more of a one ski quiver. To much of a hassle to fly with more then one set of skis so I'd be using it on variable conditions.

Cheers!

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You would be very surprised how a 180cm soul 7 skis so short in comparison to your 177 Wall. With the Wall being a traditional camber ski you almost have full tip to tail contact on the snow, minus the twin tip.Not with the Soul7!

It may take you a little time to adjust to the overall length of the longer Soul but when it's a soft snow powder day you will be stoked. I would also use the length skied of the Gotomas and Rockers as a guide for this decision.

If you truly want a very short, quick turning, easier to spin, easier in moguls and tight trees for your weight the 180 could work. If wanting a more dedicated out west ski for the deeper days, big open bowls, more charging ability(this ski isn't a charger), and a never want a feeling of going over the tips then stay long.

All last year I never ran into anybody that wanted the ski shorter but saw many in the shops on the wall returned for people that bought short and traded for long after skiing them.

Hope that helps and maybe some others will jump on this thread to help too.

SF






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Ski Freak is spot on Taylor I'd also agree and say size up if you want to use it Out West, you will learn how to handle it to make smaller turns in the trees when you need to. You are right, your weight might say 180 but, you are an expert skier. That means you know how to drive your boot to drive a longer ski at higher speeds. Plus I thought this ski skied a littler short and it is not super stiff, as an expert skier you should have no problem. Maybe the first one run will be wierd but, you will get it.

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Appreciate the help guys, I think I'll be going with a 188.

Cheers,

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Dude, I'm 5'8" and I wouldn't buy the 180, only the 188, but that also has a lot to do with where I ski and the conditions of where I'm skiing.

i am 5.9, 162 lbs, i always ski 164 in atomic, bbr's that i just bought. I can do blacks, intermediate, some moguls, what size should i get in this ski? some people here are saying 163 is too short? would not anything longer be too long? and what does it mean when they say the soul 7 skiis short?

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Ducp44 ,
Because of the Rocker Profile in the tip and the tail of the Soul 7 it makes the effective edge contact with the snow shorter. Therefore it skis shorter on Hard Packed Snow and truer to size in Powder, I agree go with the next size up you will be glad you did.

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but what about on groomed ski slopes? Would not a 172 cm be too long as opposed to 164 cm.

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I would not even think twice about buying the Soul 7 in the 172cm over the 164cm. At your height and weight going with 180cm would not be that far fetched either depending on your aggressiveness and how much snow you routinely encounter on powder days.

As a reference Im 6'1" 178lbs but 43 years old and wouldn't even consider anything less than the 188cm for this ski.

To elaborate on Soren's comments above about effective edge on the snow. Lay the ski flat on the ground in comparison to your Salomon BBR's or anything else that you have skied on. You will notice how much of the ski in the tip and tail is lifted off the ground. As she said above most of the ski will come into play on deep powder days but on groomed runs there is actually not a lot of ski coming in contact with the snow, this is the effective edge when carving.

Sorry to reply so late but in case you were still wondering about sizes I wanted to give additonal advice.