Make soul turns just about anywhere.
The idea that one fat ski can serve as your entire quiver isn't a new one, but Rossignol took the ball and ran with it into entirely new territory with the Soul 7. Versatility defines the Soul 7 and drives its unique engineering. Instead of metal, the Soul 7 has lightweight paulownia wood at its core for liveliness and pop. Gone are the heavy, floppy tips you find in most fat, rockered rides; here you'll find a honeycomb structure built into the tip and tail, a touch that drastically reduces swing weight and moves the mass of the ski under your foot for improved stability and edging control. Progressive rocker keeps the tip and tail floating above deep snow, although you'll find that the amount of rocker has been reduced slightly at the tip and more dramatically at the tail. There's no need to adjust your touch or change your approach when faced with new terrain because this ski does the majority of the work. Float through backcountry powder lines, drop hammers on the corduroy, and blast through chewed-up chunder with reckless abandon.
- Power Turn Rocker full rocker profile with a low tip and tail rise
- Sandwich construction layers wood core and ABS sidewalls between the topsheet and base
- Aggressive sidecut for a 17 meter turn radius
- Air Tip honeycomb structure reduces swing weight at the tip and tail
- Free V.A.S. visco-elastomer material provides vibration reduction
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I am 5' 9" and weigh 165...
I am 5' 9" and weigh 165 lbs. I have been skiing the S7's in a 188cm mounted 2 cm forward of '0' & love it. I originally thought I would want the 180 Soul 7, but after seeing them I am now thinking the 188's might be a better choice. I also noticed they have the '0' line on the Soul 7 much farther back than on the S7. I have really grown accustomed to the more forward mounting position. Any feedback?
Based on your size I would have recommended doing the 180s in the Soul 7 and mounting on the '0' line. But then again, if a forward mounting position has been working these shouldn't be that different for feel from what you have experienced before.
I ski primarily in Northern BC (Powder...
I ski primarily in Northern BC (Powder King). I am 5'8" at 160lbs and considering purchasing the Soul 7 with Marker Baron bindings to access some backcounrty on occasion. I consider myself a 'expert' comfortable in all conditions/terrain. I am looking for advice on length (180?) and binding placement (0, +2, -2?)
Thanks in advance
PS, currently using S3 @178
I think a 180 or 188 would work well for you. If you like to ski fast and need a ski that can hold up at speed, I would opt for the 188. If you like to make quicker turns and ski trees, I would suggest the 180.
As far as mounting goes, Rossignol provides a recommended mount point and I would stick to that.
Torn between 180 and 188, need to reassure...
Torn between 180 and 188, need to reassure myself. I'm 6' 195lbs, using them with a tele set up (Enzo R) for soft snow days. Have a ski for hard pack (Salomon 3V Lab 160) so not worried about that. Really like short turns just concerned the 188 will be too much ski in tight turns, and the 180 might only be good in short turns for my weight.
I would say that both ski would work for you but you are right that the 180 will be better for tight turns and not quite as good at open bowls or higher speeds. I think you should be able to drive the 188 around just fine with the binding you will be using. With the amount of rocker in the tip, this ski will feel shorter than a traditional 188. Maybe going forward 1 or 2 cm from recommended would give you the best of both worlds, and would make the ski feel slightly shorter while allowing the benefits of the longer length when going fast or skiing pow. Either way you decide to go, I am sure you will still be laughing at the end of a good pow day!
Hi Ken, hey I just looked at this ski today and I think you'll be happy going with the 188 and with Dan's suggestion to mount a little forward. There is a good amount of rocker in both the tip and tail so it will ski shorter. I think you will be happy with the longer length for as big as you are, especially on the deeper soft days! It's a great ski! Enjoy it!
Soul 7's are awesome
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
I had a chance to demo these in 188 cm length at Keystone's Demo Days. I tried out about 6 different ski brands and these were definitely my favorite and I will be buying them soon. Super responsive, very quick edge to edge, and handled very well on hard pack with no chatter at all. They were also great in the moguls. I am currently skiing on Atomic Blogs and love those skis on everything except hardpack, where they have a lot of chatter. This skis seem to have all of the pros of the Blogs without the negative. I'll try to update my review later in the season, but I'm confident they will be awesome in powder (no powder available during my demo). I'm 53 yrs old, 5'8", 155 lbs, and an expert skier.
I am 5"10", weigh 220 pounds. I am...
I am 5"10", weigh 220 pounds. I am intermediate to advanced. I currently ride Solomon Rocker 2 184 in the powder and have been using them for my everyday ride. I would like to get a better all mountain ski. I ski in Utah's cottonwood canyons and up in Park city. Would this ski be a good all mountain ski for me? Would it be a better ski than my Rocker 2's for moguls, trees, and groomers? I like the Rocker 2's in deep powder but not so much in everyday use. If this would be a good ski for me, what size? I am also heavily considering the Line Sick Day 95's as well. How do both of these skis compare?
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
Got a few laps on the 180cm soul 7 today and I can suggest that anyone would benefit from going as long as possible when picking a length for this ski. The 180 is more turny than most 160cm slalom skis. The soul 7 is a great ski if you want something super user friendly and fun to jib on all over the mountain. If you like a stiff, crud-busting charger, you should look elsewhere.
soul 7 180 or 188
6' 195 lbs
65 yrs in...
soul 7 180 or 188
6' 195 lbs
65 yrs in shape aggressive advanced skiing mostly mammoth and colorado
primary ski is stockil storm rider xxl
just sold atomic bent cheaters 183, a little too burly for me
Took a look at your vitals and I found the Soul 7 from Rossignol to have a definite affinity for shorter turns due to the positive camber running length, sidecut and flex pattern. I would say the 188cm size for most situations and only go for the 180cm size if 80% of the turn shapes you make over the course of a day are as small as possible.
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
rode the soul 7 Sunday in variable 10" chunder, 29 deg powder mix on typical cascade cement(mash potato's) up at Timberline. The skis reacted like they were in Utah Champaign. Zero snow snakes. freaking awesome. Got the 180cm at 5'-10" 180 lbs . Let them rip on the packed powder and they acted like a quick slalom ski. Handled a high speed GS turn and a hard landing or two smooth and crisp. Its my mid life crisis ski. perfect for a 48 year old ski team coach coming down with a serious case of old ass.
I,m 55yrs old, retired, 6', 200 lbs,...
I,m 55yrs old, retired, 6', 200 lbs, intermediate(ski the single black diamonds in the East) and hardly ever skied powder . My normal skis are 164 Atomic X m2trons with a 12m turn radius that are built just to turn and I love them but they will sink like a rock in powder.Have moved to BC's Okanagan Valley to ski powder this winter. Got these Soul 7 skis @ 188 (thanks soooo much for the great info on them which pushed me there) and this year's Marker Duke's separately on my road trip out. I imagine that for this winter, 90 % of my skiing will be on-piste.
Any suggestions for where these bindings should be mounted?
The season will soon start here and I can't wait!!
Thanks for the great info and positive vibe!
The mounting position is somewhat flexible on these skis. A lot of people would mount these either on ski center, or core center. This will be a good feel for park or an kind of switch skiing.
If you are a bit more of a directional skier you might want to put the -1, -2.
Most people I know who have ridden these have mounted them at -1, as they are mostly ante piste, and they perform great in deeper snow, but even at -1 they still get great groomer performance.
These truly are up to personal preference.
I have thoroughly tested several lengths in the Soul 7 and you are likely best off on the line with that length and your size. In general with the 7 series, Unless you are very large for the whatever length you are on and only ski pow line is best.
Any ~130 lb expert level skiers that can...
Any ~130 lb expert level skiers that can advise on the 164 vs 172 lengths?
I already have narrower skis, so I am buying these only to use on powder days in Tahoe and occasionally CO. I am mainly concerned about getting the best maneuverability and float. For whatever reason, I rarely experience speed or crud chatter from my 78 waist 166 length camber-style skis so I suppose that I am less concerned about that issue.
I would suggest going with the 172s. These have a 50/50 rocker/camber profile, so they are going to ski a little shorter than a regular camber ski of the same length. If you are a fairly strong skier, you should be able to handle the 172 no problem and it's what you're going to want if skiing the west.
should I go up to 180 then?
Based on your first question definitely go longer, this ski skis a little short and with the air tips is basically easy to ski at longer lengths if you want. Not knowing more about your skier type your probably best to demo a 180 and see if it is too much to lug around..
I am your size about 135lbs expert skier. Definitely go 180. The early rise tip and tail mean less ski will be in contact with the snow which means you should size up from what might be what you are used to. If you are charging hard you want a little more ski in front of you.
I'm 5'8 1/2", 150 lbs, expert agressive...
I'm 5'8 1/2", 150 lbs, expert agressive skier. torn between lengths of the super 7. Ski mainly aspen, telluride, jackson. Should I go with 180cm or 188cm? Also, will the new super 7 ski similar length to the older S7, or slightly longer due to stiffer, less rocker tail? Thanks!
This is the Soul 7 you are looking at. The super 7 is a different ski.
on their site, rossi recommends your height plus 5cm for experts. that puts you 179, so grab the 180.
180 for sure, I'm 6'1" and 180lbs and I was going to buy the 188cm and pondered the 180cm just for the mogul and quickness so 180cm for you should be perfect.
Hi! Im thorn between the soul 7 and the...
Hi! Im thorn between the soul 7 and the super 7. Im going to use the ski as an one quiver all mountain ski, mostly in the alps. Im 6'1" and 220 lbs, advanced skier with good technique both on hard and on soft snow. I think that if i were lighter the soul would be perfect, but im worried that it will be to small and weak both in the groomers and in the powder.
My question is simply, will the soul 7 work for me as an bigger fellow, or should i go for the super 7?
Sorry for spelling errors, english is my secound language.
The Soul 7 would be a great all mountain ski, it can handle your height and weight no problem in the proper size (188) but for where your skiing I would say go with the Super7, you will enjoy the wider waist more and you shouldn't have too much troubles getting them edge to edge on piste. You can mount them up with some touring bindings and would have a killer set up.
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
My friend owns these and let me try them. They are sick! Crazy responsive and quick!
How do these compare to Atomic Blogs? I'm...
How do these compare to Atomic Blogs? I'm a 53 yr old, 5'8", 155 lb male and have been aggressively skiing on 185 cm Blogs for the last 3 seasons. I really like the Blogs and they seem to do everything, but sometimes they seem a bit flimsy on hardpack. I love trees, powder, steeps, and moguls and ski mostly in Summit County, CO. I've been told that I should be on the Soul 7's. Is this the right ski for me? If so, I assume the 188 cm length or is that length too long for tight trees and moguls?
This ski is not going to (at least fully) eliminate the chatter you are referring to at highspeeds on groomers. The Blog and Soul 7 have a similar construction (rocker in the tip and tail), which is what causes it to feel flimsy or loose on hardpack. The lightweight honeycomb construction in the soul 7 tip and tail isnt going to be any stiffer then the tips and tails on the Blog, resulting in the same looseness.
I would suggest a ski with a traditional tail and early rise only in the tip, that way you have that stable tail to really drive through a turn.
Check out the Armada TST:
I have spent many days on the Blog in Summit County and understand your take on the chatter. I recommend something stiffer, especially for when you need to get into the technical stuff. I went from the Blog to the Liberty Helix and my life has never been the same since. The difference is in the stiffness.
Do these ski as short as a JJ skis? JJ has...
Do these ski as short as a JJ skis? JJ has more tail rocker looks like but curious if I should go up from my 185jj or gamble going to the shorter 180cm since the tail is a little stiffer? 6'1" 180lbs 42 year old expert.
If you're 6'1" 180lbs, I wouldn't suggest going down to 180 on these. I'm 5'9" 140lbs and the 172 felt real tight for me. However, the 188 may give you a wee too much tip smack. The JJ absolutely has more tail rocker. I would go to the store and play around with them in the shop to get the general feel for them. The honeycomb tip will feel much different than the JJ tip. That alone will make you say "ohhh. I get it."
Have fun shopping!
I recently ordered these Soul 7 skis and...
I recently ordered these Soul 7 skis and got the Salomon Guardian 16 touring bindings with them. Super excited to get them set up. What is the best mounting position for these skis ? Should I go traditional or centered? I don't ride switch. I go off-piste a lot, love powder, and spend some time in moguls.
I'd recommend around 4-5cm from center. Don't do the center mount if you don't ride switch. However, full traditional mounting (7cm usually) is a bit too far back on these.
I currently have Atomic Theory 177s from...
I currently have Atomic Theory 177s from last year and they are too short for me at 6ft and 185 lbs but super light for touring on and I would like to add either a more powder ski. I want to mount Marker Dukes on them so I can just tour a bit to some nice steeps but nothing to long. Is there much noticeable difference between the Soul and Super? I skied last Seasons Super 7s and loved them on 188 i think. So should i keep the Theory's and buy Supers or just sell them and have the Soul as a one ski quiver. I ski in Chamonix 90% off piste :)
I am 6' tall 200 lbs with size 13 feet/boots....
I am 6' tall 200 lbs with size 13 feet/boots. I will be telemarking with NTN Freedom bindings on 188 Rossi Soul 7 Skis. 50% of time on groomers and 50% Pacific NW crud and powder. I was thinking of mounting these 2-3 cm back from boot center. Any thoughts? My skis that are mounted at boot center with NTN Freeride bindings suffer serious tip dive on powder.
I'm mounting my 188's tele with Mondo 28 75mm 3-pin bindings. I don't have any experience with NTN (too $$$$$) but my suggestion is to go boot center or maybe 1 to 1.5 cm back of boot center. This ski design favors a centered stance, so I wouldn't go crazy. Mock it up with your boots/bindings and see how it looks- I had a pair of Black Diamond Current's in 185 that I had to remount 1.5cm back, and they worked far better than factory recommended boot center- that ski's design is very similar to Soul 7 so I'll pay particular attention to that when I mount. Best of luck!
I am 5'7" about 160lbs ski around 90 days...
I am 5'7" about 160lbs ski around 90 days a year at Sugarloaf in Maine including a couple of weeks out west. Use MX88's 168cm which for me is the perfect all around ski. Tend to make short to medium radius turns and do not need to be the first person back to the lift. Had a pair of Line Influence 105's 179cm that were too heavy and maybe to long. Do you think the 172's be too short?
I'm 5'8" 140 and I ski high 170's just fine. This ski handles well enough to where a 179 won't feel deadly. At 160 you'll have a lot more stability. I most always opt for smaller skis, but I don't think a 172 would be as fun for getting all over the mountain. However, it's your preference, you know how you ski best, and it's your money. I'm just trying to help. Have fun shopping!
Are these fatties overkill for a level 7...
Are these fatties overkill for a level 7 or 8 skier spending 65% of his time on the east coast and 35% on the west coast? I'm looking for something that can rip just about anywhere (can't justify a multi-ski quiver with ~20 days on snow a year). I also want something that I won't outgrow from a skill advancement perspective either. If I am barking up the wrong tree with the soul 7s, what else should I be looking at?
I don't thing these would be overkill.
This ski is easy to turn and it feels very light due to the air tip/tail, but still has great edge grip and solid feel underfoot. It will carve well on groomers and and is responsive, nimble and reactive in short turns and in the trees.
This is a great all over ski and will will be to ride all season long!
Why not just rent or demo when you take your trips out West? This ski is hugely popular out here and it should be fairly simple to rent a pair when you make your trip (travel is much less of a headache as well). That way you could choose a narrower ski for your days back home.
Thanks for the input, Lexi and Carver.
Lexi, I did just that this past season, but I ended up spending $300 just in demo/rental fees to do so. That's 1/3 to 1/2 of the cost of a pair of skis. I don't want to do that every year. I need new skis anyway as the ones I'm currently on are a little too short (168cm) for my height/weight (5'10"/170lb) and where I'm at skill wise (confident level 7).
So ideally, I want a single pair of skis that I can use on both coasts. I realize there are probably trade offs to doing so, but as long the skis can hold their own on the groomers when there hasn't been any fresh for a while, then I think I'm fine with that.