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The idea that one fat ski can serve as your entire quiver isn't a new one, but Rossignol took the ball and ran with it into entirely new territory with the Soul 7. Versatility defines the Soul 7 and drives its unique engineering. Instead of metal, the Soul 7 has lightweight paulownia wood at its core for liveliness and pop. Gone are the heavy, floppy tips you find in most fat, rockered rides; here you'll find a honeycomb structure built into the tip and tail, a touch that drastically reduces swing weight and moves the mass of the ski under your foot for improved stability and edging control. Progressive rocker keeps the tip and tail floating above deep snow, although you'll find that the amount of rocker has been reduced slightly at the tip and more dramatically at the tail. There's no need to adjust your touch or change your approach when faced with new terrain because this ski does the majority of the work. Float through backcountry powder lines, drop hammers on the corduroy, and blast through chewed-up chunder with reckless abandon.
- Power Turn Rocker full rocker profile with a low tip and tail rise
- Sandwich construction layers wood core and ABS sidewalls between the topsheet and base
- Aggressive sidecut for a 17 meter turn radius
- Air Tip honeycomb structure reduces swing weight at the tip and tail
- Free V.A.S. visco-elastomer material provides vibration reduction
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i am 5.9, 162 lbs, i always ski 164 in...
i am 5.9, 162 lbs, i always ski 164 in atomic, bbr's that i just bought. I can do blacks, intermediate, some moguls, what size should i get in this ski? some people here are saying 163 is too short? would not anything longer be too long? and what does it mean when they say the soul 7 skiis short?
Because of the Rocker Profile in the tip and the tail of the Soul 7 it makes the effective edge contact with the snow shorter. Therefore it skis shorter on Hard Packed Snow and truer to size in Powder, I agree go with the next size up you will be glad you did.
but what about on groomed ski slopes? Would not a 172 cm be too long as opposed to 164 cm.
I read the whole thread and am still left...
I read the whole thread and am still left wondering what size to get. I am 5'10" 165 lbs. I just moved back to Colorado and want to get back to skiing after spending the last 10 years on a snowboard. I used to be an advanced skier and expect to get back there but won't be at first. I like to ski off piste and groomers though On big powder days I don't know that I will ne able to give up the board....... this seems like the right ski for where I want to be but I am unsure on size. I am thinking 180, but it sounds like a lot of people would recommend the 188
I had a chance to get on a pair of these last season (188's) and they do ski shorter with the rockered tip and tail. I'm 6' 175# and an advanced backcountry skier. I would suggest the 188's, they'll push you at first but as you get back on form you'll have a ski that more fits your advanced style.
Meanwhile as the BC crew states, "Send It!"
If you like to ski fast definitely get the 188 cm. Ive demoed this ski (5'8" 200 lbs) and it skis a bit short and its not really stiff. With that combo I needed all of the 188 cm to feel any kind of stability while skiing fast off trail. If you like to make a lot of turns then the 180 cm will be just fine. Scott is right, the 188 cm might toss you to the back seat at first but, eventually you will learn how to get on top of that length.
I'll be the third to chime in here.
I recommend the 188cm as well.
It may buck you around a bit at first, but as soon as you get your ski legs back, I think the 180cm would leave you itching for more length. I've heard from ALL users that this ski feels exceptionally short, so 188 will leave you happier in the long run, IMHO.
Enjoy! And welcome back to 2-planking!!
Hi, I was sold a pair of 164cm soul 7s...
Hi, I was sold a pair of 164cm soul 7s from REI. For whatever reason, maybe I'm just passive, I let the sales man sell me a pair of 164cm. I am on my way to upgrade to a bigger size but I am not sure what I should go for. I am 5'8-9ish 180lbs and I am an aggressive skier and I spend the majority of my time in the backcountry of Mt. Baker skiing NW pow. What do the experts suggest I do?
Thanks for your help and suggestions!!
164 cm seems really short for you. I am around the same size and ski similar terrain. If you ski aggressive and like to go fast size up to the 180 cm. The ski does have rocker on tip and tail so it should ski a littler shorter. Maybe it might toss you around at first if you havent ever been on a ski that long but, with your weight and skiing ability you shouldnt have a problem controlling that ski. Just be prepared for the possibility of an adjustment period. Its worth it for the added stability at speed on some of those wide open faces.
Hey Matthew, yeah, this guy sold you a WAY short ski. I am 5'8", 165 lbs and I ski the 180 with no problem. It's a very light, intuitive and playful ski with a lot of rocker in the front, so it skis a lot shorter than you'd think.
Has anyone mounted this ski for telemarking?...
Has anyone mounted this ski for telemarking? Thoughts?
I'm 6'1" and 195lbs. My home mountain is Park City,UT. If not a powder day, I spend my day skiing bumps( as long as the legs last). I'm looking for the one quiver ski.
My current gear is old, K2'Anti-Piste, T1's, Hammerheads. Looking to go ntn with the next setup.
Any help would be appreciated!
Hey there, I haven't, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to mount these up with an A/T setup this coming winter. They are just so lightweight that they'd be a breeze on the uphills.
I've mounted both the Soul 7 and the Super 7 with ntn-bindings. Worked great the few times I had a chance to go skiing this winter.
There's a telemark review on this German page (http://telemarkfriends.com/skitest-2014/item/958-rossignol-soul-7.html).
I ended up going with the old two sheet of titanal model Super 7. 22 Designs Axls and BD push boots. I am 6'4' and 240. Found the stiffness was perfect (I am a big guy) and the ski surprisingly nimble in bumps and trees. Super sweet in the deep with all that width and rocker. Performed equally well in tele turns or parallel, and it is a monster setup for busting through crud and mank. I love this setup.
So Pedro, while I cannot answer the question about the Soul 7, its siblings are a really nice tele setup. get out there and carve them!
Hey guys, I've spent the last couple hours...
Hey guys, I've spent the last couple hours pouring over reviews and length suggestions for these skis. I am 5'11" and about 145 lbs. I'm actually an expert snowboarder that's been making the transition back to skis over the last three years (cause splitboarding is a pain in the ass). I ski aggressively and consider myself advanced but definitely not an expert... yet. I ski the Pacific North West and spend about half my time at the resort and half my time touring. I mostly ski steep off-piste lines, but spend a decent bit of time in the trees too. I'm currently skiing 185 Black Diamond Amperages with Marker Barons for both resort and touring, and am looking for a lighter touring setup that I can also use at the resort if need be. I love the Amperages, and even though I originally thought they might be a little too much ski for me found that I could handle them just fine. Planing on mounting the Souls with Dynafit bindings to keep the weight down. So back to the sizing. I'm obviously not considering the 172s even though thats where my weight puts me. With my height and weight I would say that I would normally shoot for a 180 in a rockered ski, but since everyone is saying they ski soooo short I'm tempted to jump up to the 188s for the additional float. At the same time I want to use them primarily for touring so I don't want to add the extra weight if its not necessary. I'm an advanced skier and progressing quickly so that also makes me consider the longer size. I wouldn't say that I'm 100% hard charging, but I do ski aggressively and definitely push myself. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to tell the full story. What size should I get?
Can I ask how old you are? Just curious if you are a thinner adult or a teenager/college student. Reason I ask is my 17 year old son is 5'11" 145lbs but will keep increasing in height and weight so I have a tendency to chose longer so they last longer.
The 5'11" side of you can easily handle the 188cm Soul 7 but the 145lb definitely puts you towards the 180cm. Based on the fact that you currently ski the 185 Black Diamond I have to recommend the 188cm. I think going down to the 180cm will leave you always wanting more.
If you are willing to sacrifice maximum float, want a shorter ski to manipulate in tight spaces, very tight turn radius on groomers, super quick in moguls, and have always felt your Black Diamonds are a touch long then go for the 180cm if you are an adult. Still growing that wants it to last for a few years then go longer.
The new Rossi series skis are so light I don't think weight will be any issues on the 188cm.
Those are a couple scenarios to think over but it sounds like you are a pretty aggressive skier that loves the sport and is out to conquer the mountain. 188cm in the Soul 7 won't be too much ski to handle, especially if you ski bigger mountains.
Definitely not a black and white answer, but a tough question.
Hey skifreak, thanks for the response. I'm 28, just scrawny. I'm sure I'll get fat eventually, but I'm definitely not growing anymore. I'm leaning towards the 188s, but there is a part of me that is wondering what kind of responsiveness I'm giving up by skiing longer skis (I'd love to try the black diamonds in a 175 to see). I'm sure I can handle the 188s, just not sure I absolutely need to jump up to that size.
You didn't sound like a kid but wanted to make sure. I'm not exactly a husky individual myself so no worries. You are in between sizes I'm afraid and the 188 does seem a little much for your weight but not necessarily in this ski. I think if you were looking at other skis in the 188cm length some red flags would pop up. Rossignol still has a perfect fit guarantee I think so whatever you choose you should have the option of trading it if you feel it is wrong, plus Backcountry's policies depending when you purchase it.
I'm never a fan of long skis up in my area, too many tight spots and I really enjoy moguls so I choose lengths wisely with those conditions in mind. I do own both 185JJ and 195AKJJ so I'm aware of how big skis feel and only pull my AKJJ out on very deep days.
If you are really struggling with what size to get you can always look at other things that come in different lengths, just a thought.
If you have always felt you wanted a shorter BD then honestly the 180cm could be the way to go. You will give up some float and charging ability but this ski is not a charger anyways. Its meant to be light, agile, and playful in any length. For myself I wouldn't even consider anything other than the 188cm but I'm 6'1" 178lbs and 42 years old. I tried both the Soul and Super 7 and was amazed at how short they really feel.
Keep me posted and hopefully somebody else will jump on but tough this time of year.
Ok, so I think I decided to go with the 180s since I already have a powder ski and don't necessarily NEED the 188s. I took the Black Diamonds out on St Helens for some soupy turns this weekend and decided that a shorter ski might be fun. Hopefully I won't be disappointed with the decreased float and charging ability.. Last quick question. I do a few overnight trips and sometimes carry packs up to 30 lbs (bringing the whopping total weight of me + pack to 175 lbs). This weight would obviously be better suited to the 188s. Do you guys (SkiFreak or Lexi) factor in pack weight when thinking about ski lengths?
I would base what weight you will be using the ski for the majority of the time. I don't consider pack weight but if that's what you will be using a lot then it is a consideration at your lighter weight.
Please remember that nobody anywhere says the Soul 7 is a charging ski at any length. If you ski a lot of NW heavy crud you will be disappointed in its performance. Playful, light, agile, quick, surfy, and fun are it's characteristics.
Tough recommendations for you, I wish I could be more black and white.
I agree with Skifreak on this. I think 188 would be a tad too long for your weight. I'm 5'8" 165 and I ski the 180. Plus if you're going with a backcountry setup and weight is a factor, you'll definitely save some weight with the 180.
I'm 5-10, about 175 lb. Currently skiing...
I'm 5-10, about 175 lb. Currently skiing 177cm Apache Recons, but I'm looking for something thats better in powder and light enough to take me into the backcountry. Skill wise I would consider myself an advanced skier. Should I get the 180 or 188 size ?
If you are an expert/advanced skier you should absolutely size up on this ski. Everyone I've spoken with advises to opt for the larger size on this model.
I agree with Lexi. These ski very short and I would only recommend the 180cm if you were an intermediate-advanced skier that's conservative about the way you approach your ski days.
You are a little shorter than me but the same weight and I wouldn't buy anything but the 188cm. If I bought the 180cm I would be forced to mount the binding back of recommended to prevent from overpowering and going over the tips.
Hope that clears things up for you,
Thank you so much guys. I'll def. go 188, just waiting for the price to go down a bit ..hehe
FYI, there is a very good chance the price won't drop on Soul 7. The ski is EXACTLY the same next year so some companies will just carry them over.
Thank you for allowing us to give you a hand,
Hi Vlad --
I'm 5' 11" and 155lbs. I ski a 177 in Kendos and consider them the perfect length for me. I've skied the 180s in these quite a bit and felt basically invincible on them in crud, powder, whatever. They do ski short. They felt shorter than my Kendos.
So I agree with the above. 188 for you. They might feel a tad longer than your old skis at that length, but hey you'll just grow into them :)
Vlad - additionally we offer 30 day price protection, so if this ski should go on sale within 30 days of your purchase, we will refund you the difference!
I'm 5-5, 180lb. I ski with 163cm Volkl...
I'm 5-5, 180lb. I ski with 163cm Volkl AC50 and love it. I wonder if 172cm Soul 7 is too long for me to ski moguls and trees with.
Also, is Look Pivot 14 Ski Binding XXL 130mm a good binding for Soul 7 ?
The 172 soul 7 will not be too long for you at all, I would never suggest going any smaller on this ski. As a matter of fact at 180lbs I would be suggesting the 180cm if you are an advancing intermediate on up.
As a reference I'm 6'1" 178lbs 42 year old expert and I wouldn't even consider owning the Soul 7 in anything but the 188cm for a one ski quiver. I love the moguls and tight trees, own 185 JJ's as a similar ski to the soul 7 and not once wished they were shorter. This is an entirely different ski than your AC50, not one similarity other than you put wax on the bottom and point them down:)
I haven't come across one individual in person or anywhere online that says they bought this ski too long, but a few that bought it too short, just an FYI.
Your weight says 180-188cm but your height says 172-180cm so I would base decision on your ability, where you ski, how much snow you encounter on deep days, and your percentage of time in moguls and tight spots. Also look at some of the reviews below.
My wife is 5'6" 138lbs and expert level skier I would buy AT LEAST the 172cm for her.
The look pivot 14 will be a great binding for this ski but you don't need the 130mm, get the 115mm version. Also look at the rossignol FKS 140 115mm, rossignol fks120 115mm, marker griffon 110, etc... Many choices but make sure you get the brake width that closely matches the waist width of the ski.
Let me know if I confused you to death or I can answer any other questions.
Very helpful answer, thanks a lot!!
It looks like 180cm were sold out for most of the online stores.
I will try to find one...or just wait for next year.
Agreed, I'd go with 172 all the way. I'm 5'8" and I ski a 180 in this and it feels great.
Awesome, but don't break
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I'm 190cm tall and 75kg heavy, and I ski on the 190 length. Wow, what a skis. This is my daily ski, in-bounds and out, and it performs well on all snow types and terrain types for me. They are unreal in powder, easy to pivot in moguls, carve awesome on groomers and are great in chop and crud as long as you aren't nuking through heavy crud. They are super light and nimble and are great for touring.
Unfortunately one ski snapped due to it hitting a log under the snow (I would have expected most other skis too). Bummer. Rossignol agreed to warranty the skis, and told me 1 month. 2 months later they told me two weeks. After that they finally got back to me to tell me I would not get the skis till next season. Not impressed with this situation and their lack of communication, not returning emails and not having answers when I called. I am giving 5 stars purely based on the ski
If you want a one ski quiver for both in and out of bounds, this is your ski. But I question whether I would go with this company again.
I demoed the soul and DPS hybrid this year...
I demoed the soul and DPS hybrid this year and loved them both. Each for only an hour and on different snow heaviness. Does anyone have experience with both? the DPS is reaching the limit of my budgeting ability.
I'm not sure if this will help, but check out this detailed review for more information on the DPS skis. I honestly think that this Soul 7 is more suitable for intermediates looking to gain confidence so if you like high speeds or want a crud buster, look elsewhere.
Thanks Lexi, I appreciate the honest answer. This page is a bit of a Soul7 love fest. What other similar skis to you recommend looking in to? Living in the northwest I do my share of crud busting! But also spend a fair amount of time looking for those hidden powder stashes. Not looking for the 1 quiver as I keep my old carvers for those days when there is nothing but groomers. Thanks for your advice.
I'm gonna jump on this question if you don't mind. I would agree with Lexi about crud and the Soul 7 but really depends how aggressive of a charger you are. If you take crud busting at a slow conservative pace then the Soul 7 would probably be ok. If you are aggressive and wanting to keep challenging the terrain, especially our NW crud then it's not stout enough.
Ever looked at an Armada TSTW? The front of the ski will feel similar to the Soul 7 but from the center of the ski back it's stiffer. This has its plusses and minuses in comparison to the Soul. It will perform in the crud better and slightly better performance on the hard pack. Downside will be not as forgiving in moguls, not as surfy feeling overall, and just slightly less playful. I have never heard a negative comment in the crud on the TSt.
Atomic Millenium could be a different option as well. A lot of reviews I've encountered say it has pretty good muscle behind it. When my wife bought her VJJ the shop was saying VJJ for surfy and playful or Millenium for a more charging type of powder ski.
Fischer Koa 110 is another option. Check out the gals reviews on backcountry. I have little experience with Fischer other than I tried next years Fischer Big Stix 122 in spring conditions but was impressed by its characteristics and can't wait to try them again.
I don't have an opinion on the DPS other than I hear great things. They seem very stiff hand flexing in the stores but that doesn't mean anything.
Thanks, gives me some more research homework.
I've had Big Stix and now Wateas so it will be good to compare.
Please keep us posted, I would love to know what you end up choosing. Let me know if you have any other questions and I will do my best. Lexi also!
Sorry, I lost this thread!
I've skied the TSTw a bit, it's a really nice all-arounder, again you can check Blister Gear Review for my writeup on that one.
Are you looking more for a pow-specific ski?
Skifreak is right on the money with the VJJ.
It's very pow-centric, but also quite maneuverable for how fat it is. I recently tried the ARVw from Armada and was surprised how well it too did in powder when compared to the fatter girth of the VJJ. I liked the ARVw much better than the TSTw.
Looking for an ALL AROUND solid ski, I highly recommend checking the Blizzard Samba - I LOVED that ski.
Recently spent some time on the 4FRNT Madonna as well - that's another really solid all-mountain option that is very fun and playful in powder. I did NOT like the Madonna in moguls, but other than that found it to be very versatile.
Hey Betsy, I've skied both the Soul 7s and the DPS Wailer 99 hybrid extensively. Honestly both skies are great and very similar- playful, turny and a lot of fun. However, I would give the crud busting abilities a tad more to the Wailer 99. Not sure if this is because the weight is a tad more on this than the Soul 7, but I just felt a tad more confident on it charging through heavier snow than I did with the Soul 7.
It could also be from the Soul 7's air tips. They make for super easy and fast turning and swinging, but I think they are a downside when they come up against heavier stuff. Sorta like trying to hit a softball with a kids plastic bat. It just gets overwhelmed.
Both skis aren't huge chargers though. You may want to look at something from Blizzard, Volkl or Moment. Good luck!
Backcountry skiers, believe the hype
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I am primarily a backcountry skier who enjoys ungroomed open slopes "in bounds," especially in times of serious avalanche danger. (Colorado most of this season) I bought these skis after everyone, from friends to staff at local ski shop raved about them.
All the raves are justified. The skis are light skinning up, and provide excellent control in all types of conditions from powder to chop to wind pack to spring corn. Steep slopes that were intimidating on old AT skis (K2 shuksans) are either downright fun or at worst, manageable. I'd estimate I am expending maybe half the energy I used to going "down the hill."
The one possible downside, not relevant to me, concerns completely groomed (area resort) runs. These skis are not the best in these conditions.
But for a backcountry skier, who rarely skis the groomed slopes, can't think of a better choice. Well worth the money.
How do the soul 7's ski for women in the...
How do the soul 7's ski for women in the 120 lb weight range (expert skier)? at 5-4, 120 lb, would you recommend the 164's?
Has anyone compared them to the Blizzard Dakotas?
Are you a hard charging or big mountain expert? If you are I would have a tendency to point you towards the Dakotas just based on reviews and word of mouth.
I would base the length of the soul on how aggressive you are and how much float you are wanting out of it. I think the 172 is a better fit for an aggressive expert skier, especially if they live in an area with above average snowfall. But if you prefer moguls, tight trees, and just a more nimble ski then go 164cm. The Soul 7 skis extremely short and I've never heard anybody that bought one to long. But your size puts you in between the two in my opinion. My wife is 5'6 and about 138 lbs and for our area I would probably choose the 174 for her. She skis a 175cm VJJ and the Soul 7 has a little less rocker in the tail.
I will see if Lexi can offer some advice as well. She is closer to your size and I'm thinking she would opt for the 172cm.
Hope that helps,
I am 5'3" and 120 lbs, expert and fairly aggressive skier.
This ski (from what I've heard everyone say) skis short and nearly everyone I've spoken with recommends sizing up.
I wouldn't even consider purchasing the 164cm based on the feedback I've heard.
I would grab a pair of the 172cm skis in a heartbeat.
Hopefully that gives you a little insight!
Fat ski that turns like a skinny one.
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I had given up on sidecuts, but I am hooked on this one!
I'm 5'11" somewhere between 190-195 pound...
I'm 5'11" somewhere between 190-195 pound range. I'm a good skier, but I'm also closing in on 50 and am not going to be landing switch or exceeding 40 mph anymore (although I have probably come close this winter trying to keep up with my son).
I ski at Eaglecrest and this is going to be my powder non-carving ski, so I'm not worried about chatter on ice (which I really hate). I'm not going to be using this ski on those days. Right now I'm using 177 cm AC30s for those, but I'm looking at K2 Rictors as replacements. My older kid quit racing, and I got him a pair of Rictors and am very jealous of how he now handles moguls (much better than my AC30s or his slalom skis can do).
I'm struggling between the 180 and 188s. We have a lot of tree skiing, and the tight turn really opens up a lot of extra powder options. But, I'm worried about losing float too. Everything I read here tends to push for the longer ski, but I'm not a 19 year old trying to push new limits and want to have fun. Unfortunately, I'm not going to get to demo these, so I am going to have to decide online.
188cm for sure. I'm 42 and you better not be saying 50 is getting too old to push the limits. This ski and the super 7 ski extremely short. At your height and especially your weight you will regret going shorter on the deep days. If you ski a 177cm AC30 you have to go to the 188cm. Trust me I'm not even wavering on my decision for you.
188cm Soul 7, pick out your binding in the correct brake width, get out your wallet, get them in the mail, and mount them before season is over.
Hope that was clear enough for you. Enjoy and I hope in 8 years I'm still doing what you are.
I've demoed these ski's at Whistler. They're amazing. If you're a stronger skier, I would go with the longer ones. I demoed the 188's and they feel much shorter then they are with the rocker and playful feel. I'm 6 feet and 215 lbs.
I am in the market for a pair...
I am in the market for a pair of new skis and have heard a lot of good things about the Soul 7's. I am 6'3" and about 220 llbs. I would describe myself as an Advanced skier. I mostly enjoy off piste and through the trees in tight spaces. I also like to have a bomb down but mostly prefer to get around the whole mountain and have a play. I have been skiing the Salomon XT850 and it's been OK but I am looking for something that is lighter, more playful and good in the softer snow/pow days. I live in the Canadian Rockies so my local hills are Sunshine, Lake Louise, etc. Two questions:
- what size would you suggest for me - 180 or 188?
- what bindings would you recommend?
I would 100% go with the 188. I am exactly your size, like my review right below yours, and they ski pretty short. Watch my video of a powder day at Targhee and see how well they swing around in trees and stuff. Great ski!...and any binding will work. I do a little bit of touring and have the Freeride Pro bindings on them.
188cm all the way. Whatever deal you can score on a binding this time of year, whatever color you like, all personal preference. If ordering just make sure you pick the correct brake width for the Soul 106mm waist. Rossi, Look, Marker, Salomon, Tyrolia, etc.. Are all good. Certain people like certain bindings for various reasons.
Hey there, I would agree- go with the 188. They ski really short. Also just to keep in mind, these are also super light- perfect for soft snow and a playful style, but if you're looking to do some really hard charging, you may want to look at something else.
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I am 6'3", and 200 lbs. After a long debate I decided to buy the Soul 7 188, and it was a Great decision.
The video will show you what I'm saying. I am on the Soul 7, and my friend is on the Sin 7.
Sure, they do have a speed limit, which is still pretty fast, and there could be better skis in crud, but they have done just fine for me so far. The Honeycomb tip and tail actually do make a huge difference in swing weight. I just started doing 360's this season, and I am totally comfortable doing them on the Soul 7.
They have a nice surfy feel, and you can slash and throw snow around at whatever speed you want. They kill it in the trees. I love how playful and lively they are.
I tried them out on a hard snow day also. They are made for soft snow, but they could suffice as a one ski quiver if you need them to.
I have taken them into the backcountry once so far, and they did great!
Overall, they are exactly as advertised, and I love them! Most Versatile ski I have ever been on.
Given the extremely light nature of this...
Given the extremely light nature of this ski, would a 240 pound expert skier be too much for the 188? Looking for a good soft snow ski but concerned I would overpower it.
I was hoping someone else with more Soul 7 experience would answer your question, but being that it's spring time I wanted to try and help as quick as possible. If you look at the recent post above, he is a fairly big guy just not your weight and he loves them.
In everything I've read big heavy guys will over power the ski, especially aggressive chargers who ski a lot of crud. Some people would recommend you stepping up to the Super 7 instead but I have found limited reviews and forums on the Super 7 to highly recommend it. If you go Blistergearreview.com they have a pretty extensive review of the Soul 7 but pay close attention to the size of the person skiing it.
You said 240lbs but how tall are you? If you do go Soul 7 I would really think about mounting the binding back a little bit just because of your size, but I would discuss this with the shop doing the mounting. It's hard to argue that the Soul hasn't been a massive hit this year but your size and ability level does worry me.
I'm 6'3", 200lbs., and pretty aggressive, and I love them. I would give them a 4 on crud performance at my height and wieght.
There is a guy at my home resort, Beaver Mountain, UT, who is shorter, but probably about 250. He isn't the most aggressive skier, but he skis the Soul 7 every day I have seen him up there and he loves them. If you consider yourself a "charger" though, I would maybe consider something a little more burly. If you like to play with the mountain instead of destroy it, this might be a good ski for you.
Would the soul 7 suffice as an AT backcountry...
Would the soul 7 suffice as an AT backcountry rig, or are they a bit cumbersome? If not,many recommendations on a hard charging backcountry ski? Thanks
The Rossi Soul 7 was designed for precisely for the kind of riding you describe. Not everyone who own this ski uses it for AT, but the aggressive sidecut and air tip honeycomb structure mean a tight turning radius and low swing weight in the tip and tail.
Overall the Soul 7s have a nimbleness that belies their general size and weight. A perfect combination of power and agility that makes them easy to tour up the hill with, and powerful in the descent.
I think these would work super well for an AT rig. They are light, agile and I've seen them in this sort of setup. I'm actually considering doing the same with my pair.
Your question about the hard charging nature of this though, is something to think about. This ski doesn't charge super hard. It's light, playful and turny. I've found that in soft snow it works great, but in crud and heavier snow at high speeds, it can get knocked around. But I would say the same thing about most other backcountry specific lightweight skis. There's always a compromise between weight and chargy qualities, no matter what a manufacture will say. If this is strictly for an A/T setup, I think weight is your most important factor. If it's more of a hybrid setup, you could definitely get away with mountain a marker or salomon guardian binding on a heavier ski that will charge harder.
Hope this helps!
Solo Chutes and Ladders with the Soul 7
This will show the versatility of the ski. I love the touch of flex in the Soul 7s and they've seen majority of the days this year.
I just returned to skiing. I worked my...
I just returned to skiing. I worked my way back up to blue runs during my visit to whistler. I rented VOKL RTM84 based on the ski stores recommendation but I found them harder to maneuver. The shop up there recommended the soul 7 or the sin 7? What are your thoughts? I want a high quality ski that is versatile to accommodate most conditions. I live in socal and frequent big bear, mammoth, whistler, park city and tahoe. I am 6' and 240 lbs. Also what size would you recommend for me?
Are you talking buying or renting and demoing? At your size if you are an intermediate to advanced skier I would recommend the 188cm Soul 7 if you think you will be encountering more soft snow than firm. Once you adjust to the width and the odd rocker in the tips you really can't go wrong with it.
I would choose Sin 7 if you prefer spending the majority of your time on groomers and barely dabble off piste. With the size of the resorts you are mentioning and you stating you are just getting back into skiing I would choose 188cm Soul 7 if you can find some, Backcountry still had about 7 pair left. If you read the majority of the reviews you can't go wrong with this ski. If you were a very aggressive and hard charging expert at your size I would try to steer you away from either of these two skis.
Anybody else out there have any thoughts? Good luck and enjoy!
What powder skiis do you recommend for a very aggressive hard charging expert?
Are you looking at a more dedicated powder ski or still trying to stay all mountain versatile? Will this be your only ski?
Don't believe the hype: pretty, but weak
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
Against the backdrop of how much I liked the original S7 and S3, Rossi's huge hype campaign on how the new 7-series improved on the old design in every way made demoing the Soul 7 the biggest disappointment I've had in 30years+ of testing gear.
I spent an entire variable-condidtion pow day on the Soul 7 & found it a mediocre intermediate ski that did *nothing* well other than be light. Even under my 160lbs, float in light & medium density snow was lacking. Yes the ski is 10mm narrower than the old S7, but unfortunately what you give up in the pow is not paid back on piste. The vaunted, new, flatter, & squarer tail shape on the Soul 7 provided no discernible advantage on hard snow, however it made the ski much less maneuverable in tight & deep conditions than its wider predecessor.
Hard snow performance was truly abysmal: the tips flattered like rag-dolls at speeds over 25mph on tracked up, glazed rides back to the lift. The tips & tails are so soft that it feels like there is no camber to this ski. Quick, edge-to-edge short radius turns were utterly lacking in energy or edge bite. GS turns w/ the Soul 7s skied way out away from body engaged the edges, but were harrowing on a ski this spineless.
In contrast, on the old S7s or Armada JJs, I had no problem making snappy, carved short turns in the fall line with enough camber to "pop" me into the next turn. W/ a centered, modern stance "fun shapes" like the old S7s, JJs, & Patrons will also carve decent GS turns up till about 40mph, when they start to chatter on icier slopes, but every decent ski in this category is still more stable at 40mph than the Soul 7 was at 20mph.
Who is this ski for? No idea.
Low intermediates looking for a ski with more float should opt for more tail rocker for easier turning. Everyone else will be left wishing this ski had more substance.
Perhaps the wider Super 7 or Squad 7 offer this, but I need a tourable width that will side-hill, so I'm looking elsewhere.