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With its massive reverse-camber tip and tail, regular-camber midsection and short-radius sidecut underfoot, the Rossignol S7 could be the quickest, most versatile, and most intuitive rockered ski on the mountain. From pillow lines to cliffs, slashing through tight trees or booming across wide open bowls, Rossignol’s Amptek shape transforms the way you see and ski all types of terrain. Superlight and buttery smooth, the S7 pivots instantaneously for control on the steeps, boosts airs like it has wings, and rips up the groomers back to the lift like a slalom racer.
Viscoelastic Jib Absorbing System dampens rail shock and hard snow chatter
Rocking Chair Effect stiffens the midsection while softening the tip and tail for boosting ollies
Carbon and KEVLAR® laminates increase durability and core pop
Profiled-fiberglass Weight Reduction System claims a 1000-gram improvement over traditional layup methods
Just got these in the 188 and was wondering if the marker jester 130mm break would be too big for the 115mm waist? Should I get them with the 110mm break or 130?
You'd be good-to-go with either. I'd take the 130mm brake since you'd only have 7.5 'extra' millimeters (less than the width of your thumbnail) on each side. Besides, bindings last longer than skis so a 130mm brake means that those Jesters might end up on a mega-fat ski in a few years.
Im looking for a something to ski mostly on piste but also a little off-piste. I want a ski that can surf in powder, smash through crud, and throw the steezy 360 every now and then. Coming from last years line anthems; looking for a much wider ski with some rocker. Liking the S7 but also looking at some others....any suggestions?
Hey, i tried out the S3's at a demo once. They are amazing. With a 98 underfoot they are perfect for powder. But still rock when on groomed. The only thing is that its a REALLY flexible ski. Like spaghetti. Wich makes it fun. But one step up from that is the S7. Thats why im getting the S7. Its fatter. And not as flexible. But still kinda like spaghetti for fun
Well im coming from a pair of line anthems so i definetly want something wider (around 110) and with some rocker. I will be skiing off piste as much as possible (planning on putting some barons/dukes on them). But i want a ski that can handle fresh and variable snow in the resort. I love a playful ski that can really slash turns and i heard the s7 is like that
It's a blend of park shape and all mountain performance. You get a similar rocker profile as the S7 here, but a more piste oriented shape. The S7 is pretty fun on groomers, but is definitely more suited to deep, natural snow. If you spend most time on groomed terrain, the S7 may feel too wide (less agile). Rossi sets up dozens of resorts with demo fleets. Go try out the S3. You'll end up pretty stoked!
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skiing on saturday 4/3/10 in bounds on breakover. now i have to admit i was a little in the back seat trying to slash that turn for pow spray for the camera.
How do the mounting points on the S7 correlate to mounting points on the System, i.e., if I am mounting telemark bindings on the S7 and want to use the System mounting point as a guide, is the System mounting point +6, +3, 0, -2 or none of the above? Also, any thoughts for where to mount Hammerheads for all-mountain use (both backcountry powder and sidecountry/resort use)? Thanks in advance!!!
My buddy had these mounted both at true center which I believe is +6 and he hated it... then he mounted them at 0 and it was tolerable but they are a little soft behind the boot for a teleski... I would go with the Mancini version of these which I believe is a bit stiffer underfoot and behind the boot.
This is the ski for you, once you get past the playfulness. I have found these to be far more versatile than any ski I have ever owned before, and that includes both gotama's and the much lauded JJ's. If you need stiffer get the Super S7's but these skis really are unbelievable.
I just demo'ed these and both are good powder skis. There wasn't a ton of deep snow, but they both were easy to turn and maneuver in the powder, especially the S7. The Gotama was the stiffer ski and in the really icy chop was smoother. The S7 had the definite advantage on hardpack and you can carve using the short traditionally cambered section. The S7 was versatile, forgiving at low speed, and great in powder, but the Gotama might be the better choice for a more aggressive skier not too worried about groomer performance.
So i bought these skis and loved skiing them on the groomers and hardpack because they actually carve. we had our first real powder day at Alpental at snoqualmie on 12/30/09 and i got my 188's out in the deep stuff on shot 6 in the trees. it was quite possibly the best run of my life. it was only about 7" but these skis made the snow feel bottomless. I might return them and go with the super 7's because i am 6'1" 207 and this regular s7 seems a bit nervous on the groomers. i mounted at +3.
the shoguns r a more hardpack allmountain ski when these shine in the really deep stuff. iev heard the shoguns are anazeing but if i want a pow ski this is the pick.
Factory recommendation is +3, I've also heard people going +2. I believe +3 is 86cm direct pull from the tail. Some people say +3 skis too short, depends on how you ski i guess...
OK. I've skied 11 days on these this season, on everything from windbuff to groomers to crud to deep pow and bigger lines at Silverton. This ski does it all unbelievable well. Like, makes skiing on anything EASY easy. I have spent the last 3 years on 179 Seths, and these carve better and turn quicker, but can still hold their own at high speeds with about the same amount of chatter. Surfy floating is the most fun, but it's real easy to let them sink in for faceshots too.
I'm 6'1", 185 lbs, and I ride the 188 with Marker Dukes at +3. I've toured on them about 5 times this season, and while the set-up is heavy, the amount of fun I have on the downhill makes up for it. I can't wait until is snows more so I can take them out more. HIGHLY recommended, get them before they sell out (Rossi is completely out)
I'm 6'2" 215 lbs. I ordered the Super 7's and have yet to put a binding on them. I demo'd the 188's and am quite glad I went with the 195. The 188 skied a little nervous.
Going to be using this ski as a mostly inbounds/sidecountry ski aimed at skiing pow and dropping some decent size airs. What kind of beta do you all have on mounting position? I've heard +3 might ski short, but thinking I might want that extra tail when dropping cliffs. Also, does the new graphic run into the discrepencies on where the mounting points fall like last year's model did?
Yeah, I have them mounted with Dukes. A little heavy, but enough underfoot there is no issue in terms of contact with the skin during sidehilling or on icy tracks. I haven't broken trail with them yet, but I've heard rocker only helps with that too.
A lot of reverse camber skis advertise that they ski well on hardpack, the truth is, the S7 is the only one. My first impression was so strong on hardpack that it made me wonder if the design would compromise the way it handled in deep snow. Rest assured, it's designed for powder first and the way it skis on groom is a miracle.
I was convinced that I would have to set up a shrine in my garage for reverse camber skis. The kind of place that I would keep neat and tidy most of the winter in anticipation for that perfect 1' or more powder day. I started the season with a quiver of skis for that reason. By the end of the season I was riding the S7 everyday and sold off my quiver
NOTE ON SIZING: Order this ski longer than you would a normal camber ski. Keep in mind that the tip and tail are off of the ground on groom snow and in powder, the more length the better.
Try the Surface Live Life, it skis groomers just as well, if not better. It has quite a bit of camber underneath, and just the right amount of rocker to keep you afloat.
Hey, I am 20 years old.. 5'10 140...ive been skiing on 166 salmon foils for the past few years...I want the S7, but cant decide if the 176 or 188 would be a better fit. I know I could probably ski either, but I want this ski to be a one quiver ski...one that I can ski on groomers and in the back country. I like to have my ski be very responsive. Ive been leaning toward the 176. Any one have any suggestions?
Do the 188. I'm 5'10" and 150 and went with the 188. Best choice of my life. Since there is real camber underneath the ski and the tips and tails follow a reverse camber layout the ski skis much shorter on the groomers and you use the extra in the pow. Trust me. You want the 188.
the 176 would be a great ski for you. because of the "upturned mustache" shape you would still be able to get some turns on groomers on these guys. if you do a lot of skiing in the park though or live somewhere where there isnt a lot of snow all the time the s3 has the same shape and it a bit smaller underfoot
I went to my local ski shop and they told me that the 195 are not going to be available till mid December and that the graphic was going to be the new 2010 2011 graphic any word on this or any body know were i can see this new graphic??
Just got my 195's mounted yesterday, pick them up today, I'll try and post a pick of the new graphic. They look sick. too much white on the previous graphic for a powder ski IMHO
It is true that the 195 will have the 2010/2011 graphic. I have personally seen it and it definitely looks hot. Unfortunately Rossignol will not allow us to post pictures of the ski, but I can tell you that the ski has hits of hunter orange, like the FKS binding being released around the same time. We should see this ski by mid November.
I've been looking into this myself. I've talked to a Rossi rep and he confirmed that they will have 2010 graphics. I don't know what they look like and can't find a pic anywhere on the net. I was told they would be 'koopman graphics,' whatever that means. As for release, you are correct, as far as I know, but I wouldn't necessarily count on every ski shop getting a hold of one of them. I preordered online just to make sure I'd get mine.
I'm no expert skier but these sure help! I demoed 188s yesterday these in deep relatively heavy pow, tracked up cascade crud, and choppy hard runouts. The float like a dream and make effortless turns through the trees. This is a super playful FUN ski. I compared them to Bacons and Czars and the S7 stood out for me, particularly because of their better flotation and ease of turning. For laying down new tracks in the trees, there may not be a better ski.
I am 6 2 238 I am going to get the Rossie S7 for when i go out west to ski the pow. I am an expert skier. should i get the 188 or 195? I want a ski that is going to do great in the pow but still do ok if they do not get dumped on when i go out west once a year for a week.
I'm 6'4" and I ride the 188 just fine. Rossignol came out with the 195 because the pros were asking for it when slaying HUGE mountain lines in AK (like Sage). If you ever venture into trees or aren't on a wide open face you will probably regret going so long. Just because some girl is skiing the 188's doesn't mean you have to be "manlier" and go longer. That's ridiculous! Look at all the awesome reviews of this ski, they're all on the 188. Go for it, you'll be fine!
You should go with the 195. The ski, skis really short as it is due to the massive amount of rocker. The 188s are going to look and feel like snowblades for you. Just for reference I'm 5'8" 160 and the 188 was the version I was on. I am an expert skier and for me the ski length felt just right. I know a lot of people my size or just a little bigger who thought the 188 was too small. So at your height and weight, you shouldn't consider anything but the 195.
On the porterstahoe website they have a weight chart for this ski. Don't know where the weights came from but they've got anyone over 180 pounds on the 195.
They are more stable than many rockered skis on the hardpack, and able to tear it up if you want them to. As for bumps, I would say that it is possibly, if you wanted to try, but I wouldn't. Too much ski for bumps, plus I don't like bumps anyway.
Rossignol is supposed to have the ski within the next few weeks. As soon as they have it you should see it on our site for purchase. Unfortunately at this time we cannot offer the 195 for pre-order.
That would be a question to hit up the live chat about, since those guys know about the stocking issues, or can find out. It's a great ski though man, hope you get it.
I buy into Rossi's claim that this ski does ok on the groomers and rips in the pow. I was demoing this on a life changing day here in Utah so I have particularly good feelings about it, but I skied icy bumps the day before that and landed some kickers too - the ski did great for everything. Particular likes were the sidecut - which really did make this turn like a 160 (I was on the 188). If I can afford a powder ski anytime soon, this will be at the top of my wish list.
At 6'1'' and 185 lbs. is the 188 going to be too short? Skiing Line Sir Francis Bacons right now (182) and they feel about right, if not a touch short. Everybody says the S7s ski short, I'm just wondering how short.
Pretty light thanks to the WRS system. I wouldn't want to do multi-day tours, but when it's deep and safe in the backcountry they will definitely be my go-to ski.
Hey. I am 5'7" and 158 lbs. Will be getting the S7 but the sizing is freaking me out since evryone is saying they ski very short. Should I go 176 or 188? Thanks.
I picked up a set of the S7's last year and I love them. I am 5'5" and 150 lbs. I demo'd the skis at Alyeska, Alaska in a 188 and they were great. They ski very short and I found that the 188 was perfect for high speed and stability for me. Where I felt the length was a problem was in the tight trees, at that point they were a little tougher for me to maneuver. In the end I bought the 176 because I ski a lot of trees, but if I was any taller/heavier I would have gone 188. The down side to the 176 is that I have sacrificed the high speed stability.
What you need to decide is what is most important; maneuverability in tight quarters or (very) high speed stability.
These things have enough rocker to really surf in pow, but they are stiff enough underfoot to make crud feel like pow. Seriously, these are one of the most fun rockered skis on the market. They work everywhere, from pow, to crud, to ice, to groomers, to...well, they don't work too awesome in moguls, but what do you expect from a 115mm ski?
I highly recommend this ski to anyone who wants to add a rockered freeride/all mountain ski to their quiver!
scott, for the groomers the S6 definitely handles the corduroy better. for the pow the S7s are your go to ski. you have to decide if you want a totally traditional fun poppy ski with relatively low turning radius (S6) or a pow oriented ski with wider dimensions and a rockered tip and tail, fun ski that does surprisingly well on groomers with an even smaller turning radius (S7). two different skis...
I'm the kind of person that doesn't give out perfect ratings for anything, but I couldn't find a reason not to give 5 stars to the S7. It floats in all depths of powder. It throttles through crud. It carves nice long and short turns on the groomed (?!?). And, the best part is, it's all pretty easy. Also, the best gets better with Rossignol adding a 195cm version which has a wider waist and stiffer construction. Anyone who wants a big mountain ski that really does do it all, your search ends here.
Factory recommendation is +3, I've also heard people going +2. I believe +3 is 86cm direct pull from the tail. Some people say +3 skis too short, depends on how you ski i guess...
Stiff or Soft? I looked back at last year's reviews/tests and several of the "cons" about this ski was it was too soft for big skiers. Now several of the reviews this year say it is heavy and will work you over. Did Rossi change it?? I thought the only change was the graphic and maybe only the 195 was stiffer. I'm a fly-weight expro cyclist and was getting ready to buy these but the new reviews made me think. Stiff or soft for 2010? Or same?
Hey 9094. This is the same ski as last season with an updated graphic. It has a moderate flex underfoot which helps to grab hard snow and keep it from getting too chattery at speed and in crud. Where the rocker starts, it gets real soft real fast. So the tips and tails ride up over soft and cut up snow. This also helps to make the ski really nimble despite its wide platform. The 195cm version (coming soon!) has a bunch of metal in it and is significantly stiffer than the three smaller sizes.
The JJ is lighter and shorter than the S7, with lower camber in the tip and tail and a center mount. The JJ's tail is also fatter and slightly stiffer, making for a ski that lands and rides switch better. The S7 is very directional, with a pinned, raised tail and generous rocker in the tip, but it's slightly heavier and longer. I'd say if you are seeking a new-shape bc jib ski for spins and switch riding, go with the JJ. If you ski mostly forwards and you want to charge a bit harder, go with the S7. No doubt about it, they are both great skis. Tough call.
last pair of skis i had was 92mm on foot. but now i want to go for a bigger ski and i love to ski pow. i have tried the seth for a week and i loved them. they are 98 mm on foot so it felt good. im wondering if these skis are a good transition from my old skis? i am a expert skier from switzerland.
go bigger. I'd say at least 105 mm underfoot. i went from dynastar troublemakers (90 mm) to volkl gotama and i'm never looking back! I haven't skied the S7's yet but from all the comments they look pretty bomber! If you love to ski pow, just wait til you try a fat ski... The seth's are sweet but you'll notice even more of a difference if you go wider..
The rockered tip and tail make this ski really smearable. It pivots really easily and allows you turn and slash on a dime. This ski is super fun in the trees thanks to its shape and flex.
The S7 Barras are AWESOME in trees and tight spaces, the rocker tip and early rise tail, combined with a generous amount of sidecut allow these skis to swivel, smear, and slash turns on a dime.
Got an update on this one. Backcountry.com will be carrying a few of the 195cm version of this ski or the "Super 7" this Winter. The Super 7 will have a wider waist at 117mm and metal laminates in the construction to make the ski beefier.
So i bought these skis and loved skiing them on the groomers and hardpack because they actually carve. we had our first real powder day at Alpental at more...