Outlast the cold.
- Windproof Pertex Endurance fabric features 1K-rated water resistance and is highly breathable to prevent sweat from accumulating in the down insulation
- High-loft, 750-fill European goose down insulation offers an incredibly high warmth to weigh ratio for use in brutal, high-alpine cold
- Wide opening allows for easy on and off when your fingers are cold and your dexterity is suffering
- Item #RAB0183
- Q & A
LIke a tropical vacation
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
- Fit: True to size
- Size Bought: L
These mittens are for pretty significant endeavors, Gasherbrum IV, K12, Aconcaugua, New Hampshire. They are not for shoveling snow in downtown Boston (though they aren't that much overkill). Your hands are critical to success and survival in remote and scary places, so treat them well. I bought these not only to climb ugly, cold places like Aconcagua, but also to survive belay stations in the White Mountains. I'm currently recovering from frostbite on seven fingers. I have a fresh layer of healthy pink skin emerging from a peeling epidermis. That is not going to happen ever again. The fault was in my ice climbing gloves, for sure. But the overreaction shopping led me to these.
They're warm and very spacious. I got them in a large, which will allow me to wear a thin glove (e.g., OR Alibi II) underneath. An XL would probably let me wear a thicker glove over the top.
The thumb provides enough room to get in/out with a lot of tugging and pulling. this is important as getting the mitten on/off quickly is key to an effiicient transition at a rest stop or belay station.
I have just enough dexterity to still work two ropes (from one climber) resonably well from a guide belay setup. It's not super fun, but manageable. I consider that a tradeoff to the two weeks of akward typing and difficulties I've suffered lately. I can't say it'll be easy to belay two separate followers in guide mode, but we'll see.
I cannot set up the belay, nor would i expect to. Certain things still need to be done in gloves. But these mittens are now a part of my 3-piece system. light gloves, medium gloves, heavy gloves/mittens. It's a small weight penalty to have adaptability and survivability. Plus, these compress so well, they can be shoved into jacket pockets while i climb.
I got them in blue because they match my eyes.
My only comlaint is that the down is not hydrophobic (as far as i can tell). the shell is, which was a great first step. But Rab has been investing in hydrophobic down for some time. Seems a shame they didn't go the extra step for these mittens.
Rab Hydrophobic Down
In the early days, Rab Carrington built his brand around down insulation, and we still see down manufacturing as a core part of the Rab brand today.
All of our down insulated products are filled with the highest quality Hydrophobic Down, developed in conjunction with Nikwax. The hydrophobic treatment is applied at source and is seen as the next step in our progression in down manufacturing.
- Fit: Runs small
These Mitts are bit odd to me. The sizing from RAB is confusing and misleading. RAB USA was of no help before I ordered these. I also have their Expedition Mitts, which is the same labelled size Large, compared to these is an XL or XXL. For me these are just not large enough.
The Expedition Mitts have lots of down around the fingers , where it counts. These do not . The long, wide cuffs are stuffed to the max, but the hand narrows down considerably . At the tips of the fingers there is not that much down, so ALL that cuff down is rather misplaced in my opinion. I've not heard many say "My forearms are freezing but my hands are warm !" Put the down where it matters, around the hand.
The palm material is great, grippy. I wish the Expedition Mitt had that, it only has a heavier cordura nylon with no grip.
Really, really warm. You feel your hands sweat the instant you put them on if you're indoors. Can't wait to try them in deserving weather.
How tough are these? Are they just for...
How tough are these? Are they just for wearing around camp, or can they stand up to carrying an axe/ ski pole?
somewhere in between... put hand on rock next to you, not to be pulling up with force on. Poles and axe should be just fine.
Echo shane. wear these on the up. they won't stand up to tons of rope work. but will manage poles and axe handling just fine.