Crystal Mountain, Wa. and Blackcomb at Whistler
From your statement of a more center mounted design and feel of a non tail dragger...go with Bent Chetler in a 192...never look back happiness...the end.
bought another pair of this coming seasons and sized up. I can go either way in a medium or a large but will be staying with larges moving forward fom Norrona. I am 5'11" 163 lbs with a 33 inch waist and a bit longer legs (not long waisted). Have skied this model bib for a few seasons and have purchased at least four different pair as colors have changed. My reason for size large is maybe my waist is a bit bigger now 33-34 probably vs 32-33 prior. I like the longer length i get out of the current run of size large. I do not have to extend the bib straps all the way down practically to get the length with the large like I did the mediums. In fact not at all and the size large still looks svelt by bringing in the side straps a bit. Happy with my new sizing. nothing more geeky than pants that are too short imo.
The pants are definately all time in my book too. The upper bib portion is not baggy but more conforming. Just look and or try on
other brands and you will see and feel the gunny sack opening that some of those have. These are made tough and yes gore-tex hardshell pants are a bit noisy when walking but such a minor bitch for such an awesome pant. Highly recommend these.
this mid-weight merino is very much like Icebreakers GT in terms of weight and feel. I like this more because the way the collar lays and wraps my neck more comfortably without being too high.
I am 5'11 163lb with a 33" waist 34/35 sleeve length in dress shirts with broader shoulders. Anyway a large fits me perfect and is not baggy but very conforming without being too tight. Note: I wear a mediums in Smartwools NTS Light 195. Thanks to other reviewers I rolled the dice on size large in this model NTS Midweight and nailed it.
glad I made the leap. I can already tell it will be an all time piece. This is almost a full time quiver fleece. I sized up and if you are somewhat lean with long arms broad shoulders you may too in relation to weight and height. I am 165 and 5'11" with 34/35 dress shirt sleeve length. I went with size large. Wearing this over a merino wool Icebreaker GT top and of course a shell over it all. It is a sculpted look on me for being a large and would rather have a little too much sleeve than not enough. Running about a 34 waist now that I am 60 gravity is taking over. Hope this helps you fellow slayers but do decide to add this to your collection. It may very well turn out to be a collection of one. For the more bitter days I have the Warm2 in the Trollvegen line. -also- size large.
skied the 184 and was wowed by the ability to change directions in a nano second whilst charging through afternoon rubbled out bumped out groomers. They hold a clean edge, scribe clean lines of a radius of your choosing. Felt like a World Cupper thats just a freeskier. Plenty stable obviously. As previously mentioned hopefully you don't have to carry these very far. Old world construction and feel that I have missed dearly. Made me feel younger.
The Space Blue color is a bit muted from what appears on my monitor which is perfect. The high collar is floppy for sure but built that way for a reason. You can leave it a couple inches unzipped and it is not flopping open like you think. Keeps me warm. Cut is definately Euro or athletic and I sized up to a large. I have a Narvik Goretex jacket in medium that I where this under and nothing hangs out or under.
after two days testing the 192 length in some seriously variable sketchy conditions I could not be happier. I am 5'11" 164-167lbs plus gear. These skis are light in the tips and tails which reduce swing weight. They are stiffer in the forebody with the tail being a touch softer. I find that better for charging through chop or broken snow conditions. It took about 1/2 a run to figure out the sweet spot then wow. They roll up onto edge easier than the Pettitor and have an incredible grip for a 123mm waisted ski. They can change directions quickly like the Opus (118mm waist) and hold at least as good. Skied the Squad 7's a couple of days and the Chetlers are better in every way imo. Just plain fun...Skied these the second day in 6" of pow over a frozen wet and in some aspects a crusty layer underneath. Have confidence these get it done. Flying on top of the pow you can smear or adjust your turn radius and not feel locked in like on the squad or Pettitor. Stoked! Mounted mine one hash mark behind the "factory team"line meaning 3cm behind true center. Have a 306mm BSL if that helps.
more people than appears in black and white. I have a narrow heel and wider 6th toe area. Basically a duck foot with a higher instep. Actually sized down from a 27.5 to a 26.5 with my street shoe size being 9-9.5...the stock liner is very good with the best stock ankle pocket I have been in. However I went with a "Conformable" foam liner and most important a foamed tongue. This gives you extra finesse and power at the top of the turn. Currently running a small bit of wedge or lift under the conformable on the zeppa footbed. The power strap should not scare you as it aids smoothing out the flex and gap in lost sensitivity again at the top of the turn. You feel the terrain better this way and it is more absorbive or compliant. Progressive power now with a nice vibram shock absorbing heel and toe piece for walking. FYI I am 165lbs
same boot same plastic but softer 110 flex tongue vs 120 on the T boot...Tanner boot is no doubt sweet lookin and supposedly gives you both softer and firmer tongues.
but this ski after two powder choked days left me wanting or a bit confused. The good attributes are: Turns very well and can be super quick with the the way the tip is designed on this ski. Rolls up on edge with absolutely no hesitation compared to lets say a Pettitor. Great grip. Its also able to make big round carved turns I found when screwing around on groomers too. Very fast bases or my wax was perfect :) Floats well but a bit too turny in pow for a ski with a 29.5m turn radius...weird. Felt disconnected transistioning from or trying varying turn shapes in the pow. Stability wise these are def all that although just not a fan of Rossi's core maybe. Has this kind of stiff skittery feel that is a bit too bouncy. The Pettitor in a 189 was way more damp and connected to the snow with a better kind of stability for me. Was not affraid to point the Pettitor at a pile of junk snow at speed while GS'n or super G'n while on edge. The Squad does so many things well and is a ripper for sure but just lacked that fun playful factor for me and found it rather boring. So many awesome skiers however that connect with this ski and I get that. Demo if you can.
rode the Opus for an entire season fwiw...the Patron is prolly your answer out of your selection if you only want "slightly wider" and it will ski pow just fine. I came from an everyday ski being 110-112 waist "the new midfat" to the Opus just being the every day tool at 118. They roll up on edge better than the Pettitor. The Pettitor will handle chop better. The Opus skis pow better imo with the contact points being fore and aft a bit more. Interesting how Armada with its Magic J moved its widest contact points forward. Nordica had this goin on with the Raddict. Loved my Opus and owned the Pettitor however you should demo both. I know not always available but try to plug into a demo day. If you just buy the Patron or Opus you will love either.
Absolute blast down a steep pow line at speed or scrubbing speed in a nano second to duck into a tree line. These are too insanely fun to give up. They actually carve a turn on top of the heavier pow we get in the PNW. You still get face shots on the uber deep days. Have tried sooo many pow skis looking for the holy grail. These and the Volkl Kuro should be on your ultra short list. I am 5'11" 165lbs plus gear and mount my 179's +6 Cuz Seth said to previously. He was right on imo. Nailed the sweet spot and way balanced. BTW these will increase your run count by not wearing you out. It's o.k. to have fun skiing.
She has a 58.20 cm head with a very slightly loose tape measurement. The M/L fit her round head and flat forehead very well. Reduced only 3 clicks from max adjustment. Strong Blue color is one of the best looking helmets too! I am oval headed and look like a dork with any POC. I am a Giro head.
Just a heads up on dim's...
Have not purchased these yet but had a pair of 93's in my hand and love the not too stiff flex. If were deciding on a pair of skis and saw what Backcountry has posted for dimensions I would pass these by. Here are the correct dimensions:
LENGTH (cm) 179 186 193
TIP WIDTH (mm) 139.5 140.5 141.5
WAIST WIDTH (mm) 117 117 117
TAIL WIDTH (mm) 128.5 129.5 130.5
RADIUS (m) 18 19 20
rode these for the first time today in about 7-9"of fresh Cascade wind laden spew. The snow had a creamy feel to it with some wind crust in places and frozen crust down below in places. Never a thought of anything less than attack. Instant confidence. I am not a big guy at 5'11" 166 lbs plus gear. I ride the 189 size. They were fun pure and simple. Liked the ability to rail down on the flats through the piled up stuff on the groomers too. A little wider at the waist than the Opus so not the instant edginess of the Opus with Pollards elongated lower tip tail profile. However be it a product of length the 189 Pettitor vs the 186 Opus, K2 wins hands down in the stability category and definately more chargey. Again no hesitation to attack. I have owned the 186 Opus and love it too so a more fair comparison would be against the 192. Had fun turning these big buggers down the fall line in soft bumps. I mount mine at +7 pretty dang close to center and my boot size is 27.5 316mm.
...fyi I was putting 192cm Lib Tech NAS Pow skis in mine with room to spare. Thats 75.59" when you divide 192cm by 2.54cm per inch. I laid mine flat both bases down with twin tips up. Only concern for you I would think are the fins on your board, but I am not a surfer so don't know if they are removable or even if you need to. Thinking you should be fine length wise.
Hands down the INNO is da Winno.
A. its quieter by a bunch
B. the mounts on the high dollar Skybox get in the way of gear inside the box way more than the Inno.
C. Inno does not rob as much mileage and power
D. It looked better imo on my 2009 Outback.
E. The construction and quality of materials just smokes the Yak.
F. The locking mechanism on the Inno is brilliant. You can leave the key in the lock and it will not fall out while driving...seriously.
I took a hallway carpet floor runner and put it inside over the base of the box and mounts. My 190cm plus twins I could then put flat seperated side by side (2-3 pair) after skiing. No base to base rust...bueno. Wipe em down when you get home. Go hit it again.
If you are going on a trip and taking say 5 pair etc I just put the skis strapped base to base in individual bags if you are particular about your stuff and away you go.
I miss this box and am buying another for our 2013 Outback. They actually widened the mounting points on the 13' Suby for more box or cargo stability. Hey I know this is about the Inno not the Suby (but it may help)
O.K. guys/gals thats it...thats my story and I'm stickin to it... later... eat pasta ski fasta
5'11" 165lbs 33inch waist 39-40" chest and 35" sleeve length in a dress shirt. Bought a Large. Have owned the Norrona Falketind in a large. Bought sent back a Lofoten Active Shell in a Large. The Cut of this jacket is longer than the Falketind or Lofoten Pro with a bit of a drop tail. its just the perfect cut without being boxy like the ultra thin but very nice Falketind. So much nicer than the Active shell. A large in the Active shell looked like a hefty trash bag on me and the zipper is funky, especially left partly unzipped up by the neck.
actually sized down to a medium and I have a neandrothal oblong head. Measure 23.2". I own a Giro Nine-Ten in a Large. It fits where a medium does not. The Smith Vantage and Giro Montane I need a large but they look like bowling balls..big. Never liked wearing helmets much but the Seam is comfortable, light and stylish. Have so many cool wool hats that I have had made at Wapiti Woolies over the years. Looks like they will be dedicated to apres ski. I bought the Black Boneyard model and pair it with the Smith I/O in Republic Red. Wife likes the combo and that I am actually wearing a helmet after all these years.
yep I am diggin the the super stretchy in all directions newly cut RHO AR. Correct me if I am wrong...this version seems a bit less boxy and more comforming than the previous addition that had been around forever. I am 5'11 165lbs and 33"waist. My sleeve length when buying dress shirts is 35" and a 16" neck is a touch big but comfy. This AR in a medium is perfect. Super soft feel. Great for colder days on the hill as a base layer
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