I bought a pair 3 years ago and I used them as everyday(all conditions) skis in the first year. I mainly ski ALTA/BIRD during the season averaging about 100-120 days a season. Very versatile skis, used them in deep pow, cliffs, moguls, crud, tight trees, packed, groomers, all the chutes in ALTA/BIRD, touring and they rocked. On groomers, I can really get on their edges and carve with them. They're used to be my only go to skis now I only used them on packed days and still love them. They're getting worn out and I'll definitely getting the same skis next season to complement my Kuros which I use on POW POW days.