These pants can only be considered "baggy" or "mountain" if you have grasshopper legs and wear tight jeans all the time. I have a pair of size L Pearl Izumi Canyon shorts, and a pair of XL Sugoi RSX shorts. The Pearl Izumi fit normal and the Sugoi's are a bit large on me. I normally wear size 36 pants, so I followed the size chart and went with the XL. Since 36 is the low end of the XL range, I was expecting a more baggy fit similar to the Sugoi's. Not really. I felt like I was putting on a pair of spandex shorts. These are kind of in-between the baggy freeride or all mountain style kind of gear and road shorts erring more on the road short side.