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mcl5480978 wrote a review of on June 21, 2012

5 5

Bought it in 2008. Used it just everywhere, in all seasons. Pack was tossed numerous times in dusty and dirty luggage compartments of various 3rd world vehicles, but the material, despite being somewhat heavy, seems to be self-cleaning! I had no need to wash it, and i don't care about two blueberry spots :-)

The pack is still going strong being in constant use like 3 days a week. I've made a small cut accidentally in a lid from below (while closing it tight over razor-blade-sharp edge of some junk) but that gray matherial is ripstop, so it's no problem. Even its rain cover still repells water, so Deuter DWR is indeed durable.

Its suspension system is hands down the best of all the packs of similar size I tried. During short stops it stays on my back - no need to remove it, as my back and shoulders are in total comfort. The pockets are BIG - I can fit two 1.5L bottles and salami in EACH of them, and still there's some space left for snacks. Then I close the zipper, and my trekking poles fit ideally above the pockets, w/handles stuffed in lower pocket. Tent HW then goes from other side, all looks clean and tidy, and I still can move my hands to back unrestricted. It is compatible with additional pockets 10L each (they're stuffed in lower pockets and are secured by side straps), but I saw no need for them as I usually stuff some junk to where they go.

Who said "no" to Sleeping Bag Compartment? THAT'S AN ERROR!
Main compartment has separate floor over lower sleeping bag compartment (w/zippers so You can open them and it goes out of the way).
Also both compartments have separate entry zippers, rugged large caliber w/dual sliders.

There is dedicated pocket (full height, not just upper compartment) and velcro for hanging 3L bladder in there. Two other 3L bladders can go to the sides, but the pack has only one velcro on shoulder strap to temporarily secure the hose end. Well, the hose ends can be disassembled and reassembled to go through plastic rings on each shoulder strap if needed, but this will make them not easy to remove for cleaning/filling/whatever, as the rings are small.

Top lid pocket can be easilly accessed with one hand while wearing a pack. It has internal zipped mesh pocket, so You will not loose Your ID and keys while doing so :-) I usually throw some snacks, spare gloves, sun screen, sun glasses and my head lamp in there. Below the lid is a dedicated compression strap w/buckle to secure the rope.

When not packed full, the pack can be compressed easily with the help of side straps, bottom straps and lid. It also has one internal compression strap, which helps when closing front access zipper over some laundry.

This pack misses a few things, though:
- Volume is barely enough for week-long winter epics. I'd like it to be ~10 litres more (read: taller).
- NO gear loops (this is BAD) and only one waist belt pocket (not even detachable or waterproof!).
- You'll need to add Your own elastic cord w/lock to be able to use its daisy chains fully.
- You'll need to add Your own elastic mesh and four hooks to hold Your helmet on top of the lid.
- If You like to carry Your skis diagonally, You'll need some cordage. I carry mine A-Frame style, so again no problem here.
- Waist belt buckle is better on women's version (SL) - easier to pull to tighten.
- This pack has double ice axe loops and velcros, too, but those can't be tucked away (like on DaKine packs).

All in all, for that money Deuter could add gear loops and elastic cord/mesh/hooks, and make straps/loops so they can be hidden/detached. And yes it is not 100L, but still is the greatest for heavy loads, incredibly durable and most comfortable. I've bought another PRO 65+15 SL for my wife.

I recommend against carrying Your pad horizontally (as shown in manual) using lower straps - it will be torn to pieces while bushwhacking. Also it restricts motion, making You feel wider. Better add some elastic cord to daisy chains and carry Your pad vertically, using lower straps in X configuration. You'll compromise map pocket access while doing so, though.

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mcl5480978 wrote a review of on June 21, 2012

5 5

Bought my PRO 70+15 in spring of 2008, tested it, then quickly bought another PRO 65+15 SL for my wife. We used them just everywhere, in all seasons. Packs were tossed numerous times in dusty and dirty luggage sections of various 3rd world vehicles, but the material, despite being somewhat heavy, seems to be self-cleaning! I had no need to wash mine, and i don't care about two blueberry spots :-) OTOH light gray material on SL version's pockets will need washing next year it seems.

The packs are still going strong being in constant use like 3 days a week. I've made a small cut accidentally in a lid from below (while closing it tight over razor-blade-sharp edge of some junk) but that gray material is ripstop, so it's no problem. Even its rain cover still repells water, so Deuter DWR is indeed durable.

Its suspension system is hands down the best of all the packs of similar size we tried. During short stops packs stay on our backs - no need to remove them, as our backs and shoulders are in total comfort. The pockets are BIG - I can fit two 1.5L bottles and salami in EACH of them, and still there's some space left for snacks. Then I close the zipper, and my trekking poles fit ideally above the pockets, w/handles stuffed in lower pocket. Tent HW then goes from other side, and all is clean, and I still can move my hands to back unrestricted.

This pack misses a few things, though:
- Volume is barely enough for winter. I'd like it to be ~10 litres more. It is more so on 65+15 SL - this one is a little narrower, so it's hard for my wife to fit her winter sleeping bag in lower compartment. Usually I carry hers, and she carries mine (not so warm and giantic)
- NO gear loops (this is BAD) and only one waist belt pocket (not even detachable).
- You'll need to add Your own elastic cord w/lock to be able to use its daisy chains fully.
- You'll need to add Your own elastic mesh and four hooks to hold Your helmet on top of the lid.
- If You like to carry Your skis diagonally, You'll need some cordage. I carry mine A-Frame style, so again no problem here.

All in all, for that money Deuter could add gear loops and elastic cord/mesh/hooks. And yes it is not 100L, but still is the greatest for heavy loads, incredibly durable and most comfortable.

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mcl5480978 wrote a review of on June 13, 2012

5 5

Bought it mainly for ski-touring and going up. It's summer here in Ukraine, and I haven't used it in the mountains or in cold yet, but I must say this jacket is breathable enough to not let me overheat running under light to moderate night rain, except my head. So here comes dilemma: maybe I'd like it to have HardFace even on hood, so my head won't get wet, but then my head will overheat even more...

DWR works on HardFace as advertised, but Power Stretch pieces will get wet in rain/drizzle. Can be weared next to skin, or - better - over T-shirt.

This jacket's HardFace fabric also somewhat blocks moderate wind - I'd say it has around half of wind-blocking ability of a typical LW windshirt. Will post an update when this aspect will be tested more thoroughly.

Zippers and pockets are top notch. I'm 6'3'' 170lbs and size large fits me good - not too tight, not too loose. At first I missed draw string, but it is not really needed it seems. Length is ok, we'll see how it climbs...

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