The stretchy side panels are on the body, and come all the way down through the arms, to the wrist cuffs. The atom lt just has the stretch panels on the sides of the body.
I just got a few questions regarding the previous year model fission sl. Is the Uretek zipper new for the 2012/2013 season? Does it differ from the ykk vislon zipper from the previous models? Also is the N40p-X different than the previous 250N goretex pro 2L used on the previous model?
Okay so I got the chance to try out both the venta mx and the sv. The sv is noticeably heavier than the mx for obvious reasons. The cut of the mx is longer than the sv both front and back. I would say that the mx has a closer/trimmer fit than the sv in all the areas of the body (chest, waist, arms). The arm length of the mx is a tad bit longer. As far as the materials go. The sv incorporates 3 windstopper fabrics and is a more burly jacket than the mx. The mx has a stretchy windstopper material in the articulated areas (shoulders and outsides of arms, and back). The stretchy windstopper material screams quality and is probably why the jacket is $50 dollars more than the sv. The chest pockets and pit zips use water tight zippers which are used with more of arc'teryx' hardshells. These zippers do not glide as easily as the zippers used on the sv, but offer better water protection. My main reasons why I like the mx more is because of the trimmer fit, extra coverage, and the storm hood. The drop hood of the sv works great with a helmet, I just found that the storm hood offers an even better fit with a helmet as well as more face protection. I am tall and lanky (which the venta mx accommodates this body style very nicely) 5'11" and weigh 125 lbs with ~35-36 inch chest and the mx in a small offers room for layering even though it has a trimmer cut than the SV. The MX is a bit more breathable than the SV due to the less heavy materials used, but the sv provides more warmth. The mx is very lightly insulated but has enough to be used as a stand alone piece in fall/spring conditions with a long sleeve base layer. I got the brimstone color, and it is BRIGHT ( I wanna say it is a bit brighter in person than the picture), which is great for being visible on the slopes or anywhere.
The Arc'teryx fission SL is my go to jacket here in the winters of Alaska. The first thing you will notice when receiving this jacket it how light it is for an insulated waterproof shell. The face fabric of this jacket is a goretex proshell material (250N 2 layer). This fabric seems durable although not as durable as the face fabric alpha SV or a Alpha LT for that matter. I have had an Alpha LT for a little over a year now and the face fabric almost feels the same as the fission sl, which they are both surprisingly feel soft and smooth and not as crinkly as an alpha sv or theta sv. There are a good amount of features for the fission sl not making it too bulky. The jacket feels very minimalistic having only two hand pockets and two very large mesh pockets on the inside. The mesh pockets are genius in my opinion and I am glad more Arc'teryx jackets are utilizing them. I store my gloves in the mesh pockets when not in use, and when they're ready, the gloves are warmed up due to my body heat. Another amazing feature is the 3 way adjustable insulated hood which keeps my noggin very warm and can be cinched down and fits over a helmet. The jacket's zipper system is very convenient especially for climbers. It is a two way zipper system that works in combination with the button closure allowing a climbing harness to have easy access (Arc'teryx has a great video of this jacket on their website showing this and other features). I am 5'10" 125 lbs normally a xs-s in arcteryx sizing. This jacket on the tag states UNISEX. I have a SMALL (37" chest) and this jacket is perfect for my skinny build and fits in between an xs and small. My body has a tough time keeping warm, but the thermal regulation of this jacket is outstanding. If it does get to warm the pit zips are a life saver. I can wear this jacket down to the 20's (F) with a polyester/nylon t shirt and I still remain warm in moderate to no activity. It has not gotten below 0 degrees F yet, but I'm sure if layered properly it will be just fine.
Bottom line: The price of this jacket is well worth the versatility of the jacket, do not be hesitant by the price! It is my go to winter jacket, fits and looks great but performs at top of the line Arc'teryx quality. Like most of the thermatek Arc'teryx garments, this jacket is made in Canada if anyone cares. I have had a handful of china made Arc'teryx shells made and they all perform at Arc'teryx standards.
Thanks Paul and Brandon. Always helpful as usual! :) I guess I'll will have to wait to see more reviews of this jacket in action.
So I'm thinking that this is the Ventii jacket that Arc'teryx has on their website. We have reached the era of $1000 shells! The only thing I noticed that makes this jacket unique is the goretex pro shell stretch material and the trim fit (I would assume the trim fit is because the jacket does not need any layering because it is a standalone insulated waterproof shell). How stretchy is this material compared to the stretchiness of a polar tech neoshell garment or compared to the stretch of the new fortius 2.0 material of the gamma mx?
Thanks Brandon, the only reason why I mention this is that I have a Hyllus that I have been using for a while, especially for layering. I always get way over heated and I figured the fission sl seems like it breathes better than the hyllus given the pit zips and its almost as light as the Hyllus.I figure I will give it a shot when Temps really get cold.
Call me crazy but, I know the Fission sl is made specifically as a stand alone piece for the most part. Could this jacket be used for layering with a a more relaxed coat around it such as the crossbow (relaxed fit) or a jacket with the new expedition fit when the temperature really drops but have the extra abrasion resistance with a higher denier shell? Would it be over kill with just even a t shirt on the inside?
Hello, I am interested in this jacket mainly to use for skiing and snowboarding. I really like the goretex softshell material. I am 5'11" 127 lbs (57 kg) so pretty slim. I was thinking of choosing this vs the sabre sv only because I like the extra features and coverage.Although I am interested in the Stingray because it could fit me better (considering they do not have an xs in men's in these 2 jackets). Will the small for this jacket be to baggy? How does the small in the stingray compare considering the stingray is an athletic cut, would the crossbow fit to large on me?
Any smalls coming in soon? Also, will the 2011/2012 fission sl still be using thermatek?
Is there a different in the fit between the hooded gamma mx and the gamma mx jacket? I tried on both and the hooded seemed a little bigger/roomier.
another note, I have a 28-29 waist.
lofoten vs alpha sv. I was looking into this jacket and was going to decide between this and the arcteryx alpha sv. First off, I know the alpha sv is specifically made for climbing, and the lofoten for snow sports. Im looking for a jacket to use (mainly for snow sports) so I was thinking the lofoten is the clear choice. The only reson why im leaning towards the alpha sv is because of the face fabric. I want a jacket that is light and at the same time durable. Does the alpha SV have a thicker denier fabric than the lofoten? also for sizing, im 5'11" 125 lbs (pretty slim) and was wanting an alpha sv xs. since the lofoten is only provided in a small and not xs, would the small be to big? I also would like to use the jacket for other seasons, and not just winter which i know the powder skirt is removable with the lofoten which is a plus. If anyone would like to put their feed back who has owned one of these jackets, let me know please :)
Hello, I was just wondering, was there a major difference in the fitting of the 2008 epsilon and the 2010 epsilon?? From what I've noticed from reviews is that the newer model runs big. Is the older model much slimmer like the gamme mx?
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