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jgu100556774 wrote an answer about on December 10, 2013

Compared to previous years models the new version is a lot slimmer fitting IMHO. I wore a medium in the old version and lost mine during a move out west. Tried on a medium this year and fit almost like a small did in the previous years. I don't know who designs there new line up but they must not eat. Everything this year is made for crazy thin people. I'm 5'7" 155 lbs wear a size 40 coat and Patagonia's stuff this year just isn't working for me. I have a stout chest and back but nothing crazy and everything I try on is tight. Bring back the boxy cut please. I can't layer a thing under the new model except a base layer. Size up doesn't work for me...too big.

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jgu100556774 wrote a review of on October 15, 2013

4 5

Familiarity: I returned this product before using it

I received my jacket today but I'm sending it back. The cut is really long. I'm 5'8" and 165 lbs and the hem goes probably about 4" above my knee and a few past my inseam. I normally wear a medium because I like my jackets loose so I can layer under them. Cut is just right around my chest so I don't think I could get a small as it would be too tight. Material is top notch and the liner is perfect to add some warmth to just a plain shell so you won't have to layer as much. The interior pocket has room for a iphone/etc but some of the larger phones might not fit well. There is no cable management or hole to thread your head phone jack through so you can't zip the interior pocket all the way up if you plug in some headphones. Bummer, but not a deal breaker for me. The powder skirt doesn't zip out and if left undone it cinches around the waist to make it feel fitted which was kind of weird as it pulled the jacket in close to the body. I didn't have the same effect when it was stretch around the waist and snapped in place. So, to me, it wouldn't work well as a jacket off the slopes. You have to be on the tall thinner side for the cut to work for you. Finally, I got the tasty read and it is much brighter than the pics on backcountry.com. More like a bright chilipepper red IMHO. Great jacket just not the right cut for me. Definitely a high quality jacket for the price if you can get on sale like I did. Full price...not so sure.

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jgu100556774 wrote a review of on April 15, 2013

3 5

Love these pants for fit. The looser fit is great for mobility. Weather proofing is superb. The pants are not durable. Ski edges will shred these things apart. I had to patch them in three times. Oakley needs to find a better outer fabric that is tear resistant. Also, they need to bring back the snaps on the pant. The zip in jacket and pant interface is good but I used the snap system alot more on last years set up. For a set up with this price, it should be a lot tougher.

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jgu100556774 wrote a review of on December 27, 2012

2 5

Familiarity: I've used it several times

I've been out on these about 16 days now and all I can say is that this boot does not live up to expectations. The first two times I had them out they felt great. On my third day I noticed that the toe box started to colapse and start creasing. A few more times later it started happening on the left as well. I don't crank my straps down real tight either. I also tried adjusting the strap length and it didn't make a difference. I used 2009 Triad and 2012 Cartels without any difference. The toebox is just super soft. I rode with out the Rider Adjustable Flex Tongue a couple of times and the boot broke down really fast. They fold over so easy now I have to ride with the RAF in all the time just to get the response I want. I had the 2010 model that I replaced these with that had about 100 days on them and they didn't break down nearly as fast. I do not recommend these boots. The initial comfort is good but the durability doesn't match the price. They will be going back at the end of the season. I would send them back now but BC doesn't have Malamutes in my size anymore so now I'll have to suck it up with these for the rest of the season.

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jgu100556774 wrote a review of on January 9, 2012

3 5

I posted an updated review on the Sethmo pants...long story short they ripped on the first day. Two small holes in the thigh area and I can't figure out how they got there no falls or snag that I remember. So much for the durability of these gortex proshells. I'm sending them back to backcountry.

Since the pants didn't hold up I'm really nervous about the jacket holding up the rest of the season. I ride up in Summit County CO, mainly the resorts and side country, some pow hunting in the trees, some hiking here and there. I bought this jacket and pants because of the versatility of the design in weather conditions, but the material is so thin it seems that it can and does rip real easy. I'm really concerned that I'm going to put a hole in this jacket the first time I snag a branch. I wouldn't dare put a sharp ski or board edge on this jacket. The material is so thin that if you hold it up to a light it penetrates quite a bit. It feels about a little bit thicker than potato chip bag material. It seems more like gortex paclite than proshell in my opinion. I knew this when I saw it at a local shop but I figured it's pro-shell so it has to be bomb proof right? Not very confident now. I can't send it back because I didn't buy it from backcountry...decided to go with a cheaper price at a different retailer. Bad call, pay more for the guarantee.

Overall I love the cut of the jacket and loose but not baggy, orange color looks sharp, the jacket and pant interface is great. Snap or zip in and you are about totally sealed. Unfortunately, Oakley sacrificed lightness for durability in my opinion. It does feel like you are almost wearing nothing, but this jacket provides zero insulation capability. 0-25 degrees and you have to wear warm multiple layers. I had a down jacket and patagonia cap 2 base and was a little chilled at times. I will put my polartec on as well next time, but now you are talking about about $250+ of additional layering to stay warm up top...but it is just a shell, so I can live with that. Other things to note, it could use better interior pockets. It only has one that barely fits my iPhone and my headphone jack fits in it awkwardly. I'd like to see another interior pocket on the other side to hold balaclava or whatever. A forearm pocket would be good too along with a pass holder somewhere. Mesh vents would have been have been nice as well. The hood works with a wire brim but it barely fits my Smith Vantage helmet (size medium). It's pretty tight.

The waterproofing is what you expect. I took it out in cold rainy downpour and it just shed water like you would expect. My concern it will rip and it doesn't matter how waterproof it is, if it rips your going to get wet. We'll see how it goes for the rest of the season but for a $500 jacket I feel I shouldn't have to worry about rips. If you ride open bowl powder all day, never fall, or rub a tree then I guess your good...but there isn't much powder around Summit County right now. I'm thinking I should have gone gortex softshell...

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jgu100556774 wrote an answer about on January 9, 2012

Took it out last weekend in 10-15 degrees, sunny, and no wind. Had a down jacket, base layer and was still a little cold. This jacket is so thin it has zero insulation capability at all. Super light minimal shell that can be used in winter and summer. I think if I had worn my polartec mid with the down jacket I would've been fine.

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jgu100556774 wrote a review of on December 21, 2011

5 5

This is a great all mountain ripper in my opinion. I have 13 days on this thing and is never has disappointed me. The snow conditions in Summit County have been less than ideal so far and thing works well in the icy hard pack. It's super stable...camrock just works for me. I like the feel modified magnetraction compared to Lib/GNU or Rossi. I know because I've had all three and mellow mag is way better. It doesn't get too grabby and track like full mag can do, yet I'm always confident in my edge control. The only thing that might be better is Arbor's grip tech. Pop is good for natural hits. I had an Never Summer Proto CT originally but I sent it back. That board was way too loose and didn't grip well for me.

Buy this board, you won't regret it. It handles steeps and speed well...I can't wait to take it out is some pow. My only gripe is that the top sheet glassing has dimple imperfections. I've seen this in almost every AMT.

On another note...Backcountry needs to carry YES. I like Nidecker's builds. YES would give some more selection on shapes with mellow mag and camrock.

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jgu100556774 wrote a review of on November 10, 2011

4 5

I had a chance to try these the sethmo pants and jacket up at Keystone last week. The pants/bibs fit great. The med had a tighter regular fit and the large was roomier but not baggy. The cider orange just pops and the versatility of the set up is great. My only concern was the the shell is pretty thin and super light which is good but I was afraid the material might not be that durable. Compared to other gortex pro-shell it seemed lacking in thickness and had me wondering if it would tear easily. I would definitely size up for layering because I doubt it would keep most people warm in below freezing temps because the jacket and pants are very thin even for a shell. I'm still considering buying the set up but I'm going to look around some more. I would say the design is superior overall for functionality though...lots of ways to set it up.

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