Although I HIGHLY recommend the new improved model of this pant, the Horny Toad Vera, this older version is pretty nice -- especially for the discounted price! I got the Vera in all the colors I could, but they don't make it in Charcoal or Thyme... so I was excited to pick up these similar pants in discontinued colors. The issue with these pants is that while the Medium is pretty true, the Large felt more like an Extra Large. In other words, the jump between sizes seemed quite dramatic to me. While the Mediums were tighter than I wanted a sweatpant to fit, the Larges looked liked I'd bought them when I was 50 pounds heavier! Mostly this is due to the fact that they are cut like a paper bag; there is no shape whatsoever at the waist (and I'm curvy). Nonetheless, I kept my Larges and was somewhat sucessful at shrinking them in the dryer. As house pants, they're just fine. By the way, the other reasons I prefer the Vera are: the front kangaroo pockets, the wider waistband, and the updated cut are all more functional, flattering and comfortable. But if you're like me and LIVE in Horny Toad sweats, grab these closeouts before they're gone!