So I will say it was hard to put my Chaco Peds out to pasture, but after five years it was time. And at first these were a bit stiff and took a little getting used too, but super pumped on these now. Looking to get a pair of the 8in Loggers next. Made in America and great quality that is expected from Danner. These look on point with some Levis and a t-shirt, or what ever your steeze is, I am old and that what I rock ha! So take my word for it and buy these American made steppin out babies. Also I wear a 10 and a 9.5 fits perfect so i would say size down by .5 and your golden.