Mavic missed the mark with these shorts. I was very excited to find a women's version of the baggy shorts my husband loves so much. Following the size chart I ordered a Large. I am size Medium (8-10) in street clothes but generally biking clothes run smaller and the Mavic size chart suggested I was a perfect fit for the size L. WRONG! I put these shorts on and they immediately fell off. I was able to tighten them enough that they wouldn't fall all the way to the floor but they looked ridiculous; the legs were GIANT and I have fairly big thighs. The women's size L is MUCH bigger than their men's Stratos size L. My husband has a size 34" waist and these shorts were too big for him!! What a waste of the 2-day shipping; I wanted to take these on vacation. I ended up with a pair of Dakine baggies that are perfect (Size L, the medium even fit only a tiny bit snug in the thighs).