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blap55934wrote a review of on December 30, 2014

Nice puffy but...
3 5

Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Fit: True to size

Good design but some key flaws keep it from attaining jedi status. The Zipper Pull (and I realize BD used nearly the same pull on all of their outerwear) is downright terrible, it looks and feels flimsy, cheap and slippery.

Additionally, the lack of a two way zipper is a serious head scratcher. The relatively slim fit around the waist, which I don't mind, combined with the lack of a 2 way zipper make this jacket a piece that I don't really want to bring into the mountains for any serious climbing application. Without a 2 way zipper you can't comfortably belay and the slim fit around the hips means that the jacket doesn't really move all that well unless your a stick figure.

Also, the cuff construction isn't comfortable the overlap in the fabric is offset so that there is a small point that digs into your skin. I have seen this same design on other jackets so I presume this is all coming from once specific factory. It's a minute detail but you immediately notice when a sharp fabric edge digs into the soft part of your wrist and at this price point you shouldn't have to deal with this kind of discomfort. It would add about $.50 cents to the cost of manufacturer to rectify this problem.

I like the fit(although it limits function without a 2 way zipper), I like the styling, I really like the 70/30 blend but I would have a hard time paying $299 for this jacket and being totally content with it given the great options in the market from other manufacturers - I received the jacket as industry swag.

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blap55934wrote a review of on December 16, 2014

4 5

Familiarity: I've used it several times
Fit: Runs small

I bought this to replace a TNF Radish hoody, possibly the best piece of clothing TNF has ever made (they don't make it any more unfortunately).

The xxl fit like a glove over a base layer which unfortunately is not true of the R1's anymore. The R1 in xxl fits like a muumuu dress and the xl is just too tight in the shoulders, The piton however is just right.

I don't have a ton of days in the mountains with it yet but i don't think I'll be disappointed by this one.

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blap55934wrote a review of on December 15, 2014

4 5

Familiarity: I returned this product before using it
Fit: Runs large

A high quality, well thought out product that approaches but falls short of perfection for the intended application.

Super comfortable, bomber bibs with well thought out features but just a tad too bulky and heavy for serious alpine endeavors. If you're a split boarder or do just a lot of touring these will be fine but there was just a tad too much material for my taste as I'm planning on using them for splitboard mountaineering and some alpine climbing.

Overall all I would recommend these over and above the patagonia primo or the arcteryx stinger. These bibs put both of those products to shame.

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blap55934wrote a review of on December 15, 2014

2 5

Familiarity: I returned this product before using it
Fit: Runs small

Beautiful craftsmanship, color, details and overall design. The patterning on this pant however is absolutely terrible, just terrible. It constricts in the absolute worst places. I have a 32" inseam and 37" waist and the crotch, with the suspenders elongated to their max, hoisted my family jewels in a way that was inducing nightmares.

I'm in the market for a full length side zip pro shell bib that is at home both touring and alpine climbing (I know their will be sacrifices on either end) and I wanted these to be the winner but the crotch and thigh patterning was downright disappointing.

Patagonia still makes excellent gear but they really need to step their game up on the patterning. I also tried on the Primo pants and Primo bibs and although they were roomy I felt the exact same way about the patterning. Too loose where you don't need them to be loose and way to constricting exactly where you need movement for skinning and climbing a steep booth ladder.

Try again next year patagonia although by that time I'll have hoped to have found a bib or pant that will last me five seasons at least.

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