I used these on a 15 day backcountry trip this past winter on a pair of original 180 Seth Pistols. Everyone else was on light weight tele set-ups and was sure I was going to dragging behind, but to there surprise it was never so. We had skins on for at least a few hours everyday and sometimes all day, but the Dukes took it like a champ! These things tour really well have, they have two elevator settings, and the switch between touring and downhill is more work but not that big of a deal as you will be getting down first anyways. If you want a super light weight set-up get something else, but if you want a bomber set-up for charging hard in the backcountry then look no further. And let's be serious which one sounds more fun???