OR & WA Cascades, occasionally the Olympics
why on earth is backcountry selling this and why is it listed as $725 MSRP? Am I to assume that backcountry will soon sell Prada purses?
they won't keep you warm nor dry after 12 hours. You need waterproof and probably a good synthetic insulation. It also depends on how stationary you are. Additionally if it is -1 to -25 out, are you working with water being pumped up or down otherwise it would seem it is all frozen, thus--you may not even need waterproof pants but wear some thermals (light-medium-or heavy weight) under a solid windproof/softshell pant with or without insulation depending on how heavy of a fleece/thermal long underwear you got.
Additionally if you are not just standing around but actually working heavy duty and liable to have your clothes get beat up with tons of dirt, rock, sharp corners of metal, etc., don't even bother forking up $300 for some primo pants--if you are doing that kind of work it will probably tear them up quick, just get some good long underwear and something for ~$100 to last you a few months. you don't want to be worrying about some expensive super pants getting holes and rips when you gotta be working.
here is the Reactor doing its thing at 7400ft/25 degrees on the flanks of North Sister in Oregon. Love this stove! The vapor in the picture is from the water that this little furnace just brought to a raging boil.
To correct Evan Stevens, Microspikes are made from rubber for the upper part and stainless steel, NOT aluminum. Thus, they hold up pretty well on rocks--but I wouldn't wear them continually on rock, it will wear them out a lot quicker than wearing them on ice or compacted snow.
first of all the merino is great--after buying my fiance a Sugoi Wallaroo 170 long sleeve and having a bunch of short-sleeve stoic/bc merino pieces, and a 260gt 1/4zip from ice breaker, i'd decided i too wanted a long-sleeve base layer out of merino. the price on steepandcheap was great--and the shirt itself fits well and is your typical high quality merino layer. I have a 38in chest and the small fits loosely, not tight like a stoic/bc.com tshirt or underarmour or anything. however, the shirt has some intentional design flaws, as i see them.
as shown in the other pictures, the hem of this shirt is a normal hem that looks like it has been roughly cut with scissors. Thus it rolls after being washed and will get some loose threads. i have been told by icebreaker that this is an intentional design that they felt was an 'important trend to capture'. well the trend is forever captured in this shirt. hopefully on the next run they don't feel like they need to re-capture it. in the future i will look to buy sugoi, bc.com/stoic, ibex merino layers instead of icebreaker. the 'raw hem' is as retarded of an idea of buying pre-worn jeans with scuffs and holes, and at MSRP, you're paying top dollar for the 'important trend'. screw that
washed once, according to directions. hem has rolled up like a cut tshirt and has a couple of loose threads. why bother with the fake hem? its a dumb design, imho, going for fashion instead of functionality. not everyone who wears icebreaker is a hipster riding a fixed-gear.
yeah i'm convinced on the merino. Only downside for pure merino (and not blends with synthetic) is that its going to be $25 on sale...and $45-60MSRP depending on brand. Only downside. The convincing part is the lack of odor after extended wear. An hour sweating in a synthetic shirt and the stank is established like a fat man at a buffet. The merino does such an excellent job, days later, I smell the shirt to see if it is good for another go and muse, "this doesn't really smell, does it?" The fact that it is soft, fits well, made in canada, and looks good is just icing.
this stoic shirt is the same as the bc.com merino shirts, sans the goat. Honestly, I prefer the goat logo and the bc.com colors, to me it is a marketing switcheroo and that leaves a bunch of question marks over bc.com brand loyalist's head. But hey, brand it with a squirrel logo or arcane alchemy symbols, so long as it's merino i'm buying.
the microfleece lining has pilled up and removed in a few spots with lots of wear, but these are my favorite pants ever.
I wear 32x32 in most jeans/khakis, etc, and go smaller if anything--the medium fit me well, hang just a tad lower on my waist though. these have function great for rock climbing, summer mountaineering, and in less extreme cold temperatures, single day winter mountaineering events (no colder than 20F though). They dry incredible quick, are durable, microfleece lining is soft, pockets are great/zip closure--and it is hard to beat the goat logo!
top of the shortest cerro mavicure, Río Inírida, Colombia
I wouldn't pay MSRP for this - get it on sale!impeccable stitching, patagonia lifetime guarantee, doesn't wrinkle easy, dries fast, works on the trail, boat, office, hostel, or pub. Here it is doing duty on a hot, humid night in puerto ayacucho in venezeula. Found this whisky flavored alcohol, thought the buck on the bottle looked identical to my west virginia hat's buck. In the mean time, the Patagonia Pique Vitaliti Polo Shirt was unpiqued and non-plused by the situation.
mt st helens in bg
I've scree-surfed down mountainsides with these and they don't show any signs of wear. They've kept the uppers of my mountaineering boots looking like new!
nice piece, solid fit, no pilling, doesn't show abrasion/wear, hasn't lost soft-fleecy feeling 4years and 2000+ miles later..as other person said, goes under shells great. hood is a bit 'scuba' like. not a lot of warmth if the wind picks up. better than a regular fleece for 5-10mph winds yet thinner than you'd expect. weight is spot on around 1lb.
but never, ever, and I mean EVER, pay full price for this. That would be one of the bigger rip-offs I know of, gear wise. The MSRP for what this piece functionally offers, even with arcy label should be around $150 max.
Stoic Breaker Fleece seems to offer a similar package, though from the sounds of reviews I read it blocks the wind better, has a waist-draw cord, internal pocket, and is a bit heavier (maybe heavier duty too).
fiance sportin the UL thermawrap on a particularly cold mid-August morning on the North Boundary Trail (Mt. Robson Provincial Park/Jasper National Park (BC/Alberta)
going to re-update now a year+ of using the Smalls, they fit me perfectly (5'8", size 9-9.5shoe, wear them specifically with Lowa Mnt Experts GTX)
This beanie is great for under a helmet or for light warmth, but don't ask it to do more, it is after all, a light-weight beanie! Works great for a layer piece under a heavier hat as well. Can't beat Merino either -- stuffs tiny and easily into any pants or jacket pocket or nook on a pack.Cons: looks like a goofy swim-cap when worn alone, imo, and others, based on what I've heard. :P This how I prefer to sport it.
nothing fancy, full coverage, keeps the noggin safe. what more to say. holds the headlamp fine, easy to adjust.
quick break on the way up North Sister, Oregon. Not the most atrocious place for rock fall, but worth protecting the bowl of cold spaghetti
But if you want bulletproof, you shouldn't be buying an UL puffy from Mont Bell! This jacket has served me very well over a range of uses, from a warm puffy for camp while backpacking (works great as a pillow or sleeping bag supplementer) to a puffy-layer for the summit on a pac-nw volcano.this seems to be the only photo I can find with this piece on, but swear, I wear it a ton when its cold!I did find that a second tool stored in a gear loop on a harness was causing some abrasion and fraying where it was catching a sharp edge on the jacket. but I mean, we're talking sharp metal edges against this thin-feeling material, and it only made it look fritzy, didnt even rip it!
I got the mens, then got my fiance the same jacket! so warm! She is 5'8", 135 and the large "fits perfect" she says. I uploaded a picture of her flying a kite on mt hood while wearing the jacket. She loves it more than a down product simply because there are no worries about it getting wet.
This Usage Agreement (the "Agreement") governs your conduct while using various services on the web site Backcountry.com and its affiliate web sites (collectively, the "Site"). All references to "we," "us," and "our" shall mean Backcountry.com and all references to "you" and "your" shall mean the user of the Site and Site Services. This Agreement applies to various services and activities on the Site as well as to gear review and product ratings (collectively, "Site Services"). Please read this Agreement carefully.
BY ACCESSING, BROWSING, AND USING THE SITE, ANY SITE SERVICES AND OTHER SERVICES THEREIN, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THIS AGREEMENT AND ITS TERMS. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THIS AGREEMENT OR ANY SUBSEQUENT MODIFICATION THEREOF, DO NOT ACCESS, BROWSE OR OTHERWISE USE THE SITE OR SITE SERVICES, INCLUDING THE SUBMISSION OF ANY REVIEWS OR COMMENTS.
Any comments, reviews (including gear reviews and product ratings), posts, feedback, questions, answers, notes, messages, images, video, audio, materials, documents, data, graphics, ideas, suggestions or other communications (collectively, "User Content") you submit on the Site are not private or proprietary. By submitting User Content on or through the Site, you grant, assign and transfer to Backcountry.com all of your rights, title and interest, including without limitation, all intellectual property rights and moral rights, in and to such User Content. To the extent the preceding assignment and transfer is ineffective, you hereby grant Backcountry.com an irrevocable, royalty-free, worldwide, perpetual right and license to use, copy, modify, adapt, display, publish, archive, store, distribute, reproduce and create derivative works based upon such User Content, in any form, media, software or technology of any kind now existing or developed in the future.
By submitting such User Content on or through the Site, you are confirming that (a) you are the sole author of the User Content and the User Content originated with you and not copied in whole or in part from any other work; (b) you have obtained all necessary permissions associated with the User Content, including without limitation permissions relating to copyrights, trademarks, rights of publicity and/or rights of privacy; (c) the User Content does not contain hate speech or profanity and is not unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, libelous, obscene, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable, an invasion of another's privacy, or otherwise in violation of this Agreement; (d) that you are not a minor and have the legal right and capacity to enter into and comply with this Agreement; (e) such User Content does not and will not, in any way, violate or breach any of the terms of this Agreement; and (f) Backcountry.com shall not in any circumstances be required to pay or incur any sums to any person or entity as a result of its use or exploitation of the User Content.
With respect to your conduct on the Site or while using the Site Services, you agree not to: (a) attempt to disguise the origin of any User Content transmitted to the Site Services whether through the Site or any third party site; (b) act in any manner that negatively affects other users' ability to use the Site and Site Services; (c) impersonate any person or entity, including without limitation, a manufacturer or owner of any product, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity; (d) interfere with the Site or Site Services, or servers or networks connected to the Site or Site Services, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies, or regulations of networks connected to the Site or Site Services; (e) upload, post, or otherwise transmit any User Content that with respect to the Site Services: (i) is not relevant to the product, service, person or entity being reviewed; (ii) you do not have a right to transmit under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships (by way of example but not limitation, inside information, proprietary and confidential information learned or disclosed as part of employment relationships or under nondisclosure agreements); (iii) contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment; or (iv) is unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation.
User Content does not reflect the views of Backcountry.com, and Backcountry.com does not represent or guarantee the truthfulness, accuracy, completeness, timeliness, integrity, quality or reliability of any User Content, nor does Backcountry.com endorse or support any opinions expressed in any User Content. In no event shall Backcountry.com have or be construed to have any responsibility or liability for or in connection with any User Content, Any gear reviews and/or product ratings submitted on the Site, if displayed, are displayed for entertainment and informational purposes only. Under no circumstances will Backcountry.com be liable in any way for any User Content, including but not limited to, any errors or omissions in any User Content, or for any loss or damage of any kind incurred as a result of the use of any User Content posted, emailed or otherwise transmitted via the Site or Site Services.
If Backcountry.com determines, in our sole and absolute discretion, that you or any User Content you submit violates this Agreement, we reserve the right, at any time, without notice and without limiting any and all other rights Backcountry.com may have under this Agreement, to: (a) refuse to allow you to submit further User Content; (b) remove and delete your User Content; (c) revoke your registration and right to use the User Content Submission Features; and (d) use any technological, legal, operational or other means available to enforce the terms of this Agreement, including, without limitation, blocking specific IP addresses or deactivating your registration, access to the Site and Site Services using your e-mail address, and your user name and password. Without limiting the foregoing, once User Content is submitted to the Site, Backcountry.com may take any or no action with respect to such User Content, including without limitation, deleting, editing, modifying, rejecting, or refusing to post such User Content, but is under no obligation to offer you the opportunity to edit, delete or otherwise modify User Content once it has been submitted. Backcountry.com shall have no duty to attribute authorship of User Content to you and shall not be obligated to enforce any form of attribution by third parties.
If, despite the foregoing assignment and transfer of rights in the User Content, it is determined that you retain moral rights (including the rights of attribution or integrity) in the User Content, you hereby declare that: (a) you do not require that any personally identifying information be used in connection with the User Content or any derivative works of or upgrades or updates thereto; (b) you have no objection to the publication, use, modification, deletion and exploitation of the User Content by Backcountry.com or its licensees, successors or assigns; (c) you forever waive and agree not to claim or assert any entitlement to any and all moral rights of an author in any of the User Content; and (d) you forever release Backcountry.com, and its licensees, successors and assigns from any claims that you could otherwise assert against Backcountry.com by virtue of any such moral rights.
You are prohibited from violating the security of any system or network compromising the Site or the Site Services, including but not limited to the following: (a) unauthorized access to or use of data, systems, or networks, including any attempt to probe, scan or test the vulnerability of the Site or Site Services or to breach security or authentication measures; (b) unauthorized monitoring of data or traffic on the Site or of the Site Services; (c) interference with the Site or Site Services including without limitation, any type of flooding technique or deliberate attempt to overload the system such as denial or service attacks; (d) forging of a message header or any part of a message header; or (e) using manual or electronic means to avoid any use or access limitation placed on this Site or the Site Services. Such violations may result in criminal or civil liability.
Backcountry.com reserves the right to report any activity or persons that Backcountry.com suspects has violated any law or regulation to appropriate law enforcement officials, regulators, or other appropriate third parties (including the disclosure of appropriate subscriber information). Backcountry.com may also cooperate with appropriate law enforcement agencies to assist in the investigation and prosecution of any illegal conduct. Indirect or attempted violations of this Agreement and actual or attempted violations thereof by a third party on behalf of any user shall be considered violations of this Agreement by such user.
BACKCOUNTRY.COM DOES NOT ENDORSE THE USER CONTENT, IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE USER CONTENT AND SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ANY RESPONSIBILITY OR LIABILITY TO ANY PERSON OR ENTITY (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, PERSONS WHO MAY USE OR RELY ON SUCH USER CONTENT) FOR ANY LOSS, DAMAGE (WHETHER ACTUAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, PUNITIVE OR OTHERWISE), INJURY, CLAIM, LIABILITY OR OTHER CAUSE OF ANY KIND OR CHARACTER BASED UPON OR RESULTING FROM ANY USER CONTENT PROVIDED THROUGH THIS WEB SITE.