I have these boots and love them. While I understand the performance vs. weight issue, these are still great. A lot of reviewers mentioned these are not for wide feet. I have wide feet (though not exaggeratedly wide) and have no problem wearing these. (Whereas my feet were swimming in the Scarpa Spirits I was looking at.) I had these professionally fitted: I found the most experienced, seasoned ski employee in the store. He used a special oven to heat up the head-moldable liners. Then, he had me pick out the insoles I planned on using with the boots (I like SuperFeet green or orange). After that, he had me select a high-grade ski sock that I would be using with the boot. After placing a special rubber toe cup around my barefoot toes, he had me put a sock on over my toes and toe cup. Once the boot liners were warmed up to the desired molding temperature, the insoles went into the liners, I put the liners on (laced them up), then I put the boots on and stood in a knees-forward position (to stress the skin area) for about 10 minutes to set the liners. Sounds complicated, but the liners are now perfectly molded to my feet. Yes, these are the Garmont liners that come with the boot. (I was not charged a fee for this procedure.) I ski these with Atomic RT-86s (with Dynafit TLT Vertical bindings) and Black Diamond Verdicts (with Marker Baron AT bindings).