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That's great, and was my first choice, as well! Would be great if Comp.cyclist/Backcountry would offer this awesome brand. It's insane what some (many) cyclist use for night riding...you scarcely can see them, and I highly doubt they can 'see' very much, as well (not to mention the lack of reflective elements to help with visibility)...just not worth cutting corners to save some $, and possibly lose their life!
Average inseam of 31".
'XL' Measurement from the 'middle' of the chamois is: 20" (not stretched).
My 'XL' (which fits like a U.S. size 'L'), measures, without being stretched, 17" from the very edge of the side of the chamois. These are pretty stretchy, and can easily be 'pulled down' lower on the leg if desired. I am 5'6" and they go to ALMOST the tops of my calves; as I usually pull them down a bit for cooler rides. Likewise, you can also hike them up on the leg a bit if needed, to 'vent' a little. They have a nice fit, without a lot of compression, so you have lots more latitude.
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North Face does have this jacket up to size 5XL; tall wasn't listed though, but this jacket does run large, and the 5XL should work out perfect.
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And as for sizing: that's a big yes! But you'll want to be able to layer in the coldest, nastiest weather. My friend weighs approx. 180lb. 5'9", and got a 'L' and has room to layer the N.F. Micro Thunder underneath when it's extremely cold out (sub zero to the upper 30's, beyond that it is almost too warm!).
Prepare to be toasty this season!
Thanks again, brave soul!
Just a F.Y.I....my friend is only 5'9" and about 175lbs. (give or take a lb.), and got the 'L' which gives him room to layer (uses the N.F. Micro Thunder as a mid layer, when needed). He says it fits just right. So maybe you aught to stay with the 'XL'.
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Notably, the older version has 700 fill down, while this newer one has 800 fill. Also, this years version boast rip-stop nylon, that's a huge plus!
You can still, at this posting, read the stats for last years version on the ladies' Primo Down page(ladies/men's jackets made the same), where they are offering both this years and last years versions at present; a easy compare.
This years version is far better!
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Added protection for "just in case".
Not to mention GoreTex waterproofing! It has excellent pit-zips to help dump excessive heat, quickly. I have posted some close-ups of its interior on the 'new' Pat. Primo men's page.
By all means layer, as you would for any jacket in most any situ. Size accordingly.
This jacket (with proper layers) will take your there, and back again with no problems!
My friend has had no problems with excess feathers escaping; you will always have some down 'shedding' in any down jacket, especially over time and use (especially heavy active usage). This jacket has held up quite well, so far.
The N.F. Micro Thunder is another story, however.
Highly recommend this jacket. While the Primo down is warm, I would still suggest sizing to accommodate a baselayer, and or something like the N.F. Thunder (or any other brand down 'sweater' jacket)for really wicked-cold weather, as it is light weight, just right for layering (if you don't mind a little plucking off a few feathers now and again!).
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Thank You so much for your helpful review! Did you use a balaclava to protect your face; if so, what brand? Ditto the arm warmers?
Thanks again, I'll check back.
Once again, Gore's comes through in answer to dealing with inclement weather!
Absolutely works. Form-fitting. Lightweight. But I do prefer the zip mock from Gore. It of course allows you to zip up protecting the neck, but when things get toasty, you can simply unzip for venting.
If you're on the busty-side, size up.
Buying on-line can be such a pain! Glad you finally found your size (in the Silverline anyway). You're absolutely right-on about sizing inconsistencies...even among the same brand: Giordana's F.R.C. line runs even smaller because of the compression it has built in to support muscles.
You might also like Gore's Xenon; very similar, with a thicker chamois, and the shorts are a tad longer than some others.
These do have excellent 'arch' support, as you can see in the pic below; they are very comfy; the foot-bed form fitting. Beyond that, I recommend you might want to consider going to either a podiatrist, or a orthopedic shoe store to see about custom insole options that may help fit your particular foot needs.
Keep in mind, these aren't meant for hiking, just great general winter use. A half-size up I found out would be optimal...they may initially may feel snug, but will pack down & form-fit in a short time.
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I believe the 'XL' will suit you better; first and foremost, you don't want to restrict movement, making your rides counterproductive, and uncomfortable. Compression is great, in good measure, but it sounds like you just need the next size up; as compression shouldn't hinder movement, just support muscles and help blood flow to/from them.
The waist size difference is somewhat negligible, with a variant of 1.75...and taking into consideration that many of Gore's products run a bit on the smaller sider of the spectrum (not all, but some of it does). Muscles will expand with exertion, etc., as well.
And, you don't want that much ankle exposed to the elements, which is what will happen with the smaller of the two sizes; though you could wear 'booties' when it gets very cold, giving you some added protection.
Overall, it sounds like the 'XL' will probably be your best fit in Gore...and in ALL the Italian lines...size up!
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a) The ALP-X line up is focused on mtn. biking primarily, with sturdier, abrasion resistant appointments. While slim, they allow for a bit more movement.
The 'Oxygen' line up is more road inspired.
Of the two here, the ALP-X has more, and better features. And, there are actually 2 different ALP-X choices, one is geared more for warmth and what Gore calls "thermoregulation"; while the other uses Gore's *Windstopper tech.
2) The size chart shown here is the same as the one from Gore. The shortest inseam will be the 'S', and the 'M'.
Order according to your waist...you can always tuck inside shoe covers (when needed); or even over top shoe...N.B.D.
Sounds like a 'M' (covering inseams of 31.5-32") will work out best for you; I think a 'S' will be just that, too small, as Gore sometimes runs rather smallish to begin with, depending on line.
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Gore now allows you to do side x side compare of up to 4 products at a time...gives a complete run down of all specifics...a great tool for researching your perfect jacket! Research there, & purchase here!
Simply go to: www.goreapparel.com
Hope this still helps (including any others who are wondering about the differences between any of Gore's jackets, etc.)!
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