The Primo almost makes you feel invincible except for the fact that you just face-planted in the snow.
- Waterproof Gore-Tex Performance 3-layer fabric and fully taped seams keep the wet out when you cartwheel down the hill or hot-tub your landing
- Breathable Gore-Tex Performance fabric and side zips dump excess heat when you hike or build a kicker
- A gusseted crotch and articulated knees encourage your natural skiing motions
- Cuff reinforcements hold up to sharp ski edges
- Multiple pockets stash your small essentials
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- Familiarity: I've used it several times
My crampon caught the leg during a frozen and steep uphill climb. No tear. Instant praise.
Never caught while ice climbing, either. You get used to the relaxed fit.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
Standard tri-layer gore-tex pant, best feature is they aren't baggy and full zips means you can use for mountaineering or skiing. Only issues are the built in gator seems much heavier than comparable pants, not sure why, and the pockets are very shallow. Got them for much less direct from Patagonia btw.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
These pants are cut clean and look professional. They do not have any extra baggage or flare. Smooth lines; tailored to impress with function and fashion.
The fit is pretty relaxed, some may say baggy. I am 6' and 155, tall and slender and I wear the Medium. I utilize the Velcro adjusters inside the pants, and must (must!) use a belt because the snaps will not hold. If I am not careful, I walk on the heels of the pants because they are pretty long. This is only a problem when I wear the pants with street shoes. The length is perfect while wearing ski boots. The gaiters hold the pant in place on the hike uphill.
I have used these pants during most of the ski months. The zippers on the side used in dumping heat are great, and allow for easy up and down motion (two zippers are a must in all pants).
I recommend these pant to any skier who likes to get down and dirty in the snow. The shape and cut of the pants allow the wearer to kneel and bend over without sacrificing any movement.
As many have already mentioned, these things are bomber. I'm honestly surprised that these weren't rated Pro Shell (they're certainly priced like they are). These pants have a straighforward simplicity to them: a tiny non-descript Patagonia logo above the right knee embroidered in the same color as the pant, matte finish fabric, very clean seams with articulated knees and sealed zips that are also super clean and well thought out the zips almost have a durable rubber quality to them rather than the typical glue laminate on other high-end pants. The material is very crinkly but the creases don't appear as much on the thicker matte fabric so wrinkles are fairly smoothed out. The fit is on the baggier side for sure, but hardly in the same league as something like the Free Thinkers and some of the other pants I've seen on the mountain (mostly in the park). Other features include thin felt along the inside of the waistband, zippered thigh vents and durable gaiters. The kick patch on the instep of the pant strikes me as lightweight considering the rest of the fabrics used feel so durable. This instep material extends around the cuff of the pant as well which is a nice touch, which is to say that there is the instep kick patch and an inch high cuff of the same material. If you're looking to save some bucks, the Powder Bowls are more or less identical in a slightly less durable 2-layer fabric rather than 3-layer, and come with a wicking liner that the Primos don't have.
LlOOKING FOR DOWNHILL SKI PANT TO BE MORE THAN JUST SHELL A LITTLE WARM IF POSSIBLE ,WANT BETTER FIT NOT BAGGY DO NOT CATCH AIR JUST POWER , A LITTLE RACING AND TREES
WHAT IS BETTER POWDER BOWL OR PRIMO
Hi Jon, good question. Powder Bowl would be the ideal pant for you I think. The Primo here is a lighweight shell, and the Powder Bowl is a similar fabric with a lightweight mesh on the interior that gives it a little more warmth. (Neither pant is too baggy of a fit, pretty much right on the money for a "Regular" fit)
For what your doing, the difference between Goretex 3L (Primo) and Goretex 2L (Powder Bowl) should not make a difference. I personally tried on both pants today, and they both felt super bomber. As Ty mentioned, the Powder Bowl is lined with a mesh that will certainly add warmth. Neither pant is baggy, but they do run slightly large. Depending on how much you will be wearing, consider sizing down if you grab the Powder Bowl. You should consider sizing down more if your going to get the Primo, because it is only the shell. You might also be better suited with the Powder Bowl because the feel of the material is a little softer than the Pro Shell on the Primo's. You won't go wrong with either.
I personally liked the fit/finish of the Powder Bowls better. They have more pockets and the pockets are better placed. Both are Gore-Tex Performance shell. 3 layer on the Primo and 2 Layer on the Powder Bowl. Becuase of 3 layer vs. 2 layer, the Primos are loud and crinkle sounding where the Powder Bowls are quieter more like a softshell. Same bulletproof feel of the fabric on the outside on either one.
One feature I do like on the Primos that is NOT on the Powder Bowls is the ability to sinch and tie down the inside leg cuffs that go over your ski boots. Powder Bowls just have the elastic cuff with no sinching or tie down option.
(I think capslock is on buddy.) The powderbowl is right for you, Primos are more of a light-wieght shell pant you see?
I love the primo pants because the woud take a bullet for me (or at least a crampon spike) . These are the most light-weight pants to top it off as well. If you want serious backcountry protection, Mountaineering armor, or even abuse-begging park trousers, go for the Primo.