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The Volkl Mantra is a hard-charging racer trapped in the body of an all-mountain ski…and when we say ‘all-mountain’ we mean ‘all-mountain expert’. With a full wood core, vertical sidewalls, and double titanal reinforcement, the Mantra begs to be unleashed on untouched swathes of corduroy with the aggression of an imposingly-nicknamed Austrian. Meanwhile, its 133mm tip and mid-fat waist yearn to float through fields of back-bowl powder and chop through glades like a rabid lumberjack. So go ahead, spin the wheel of snow conditions and bring your worst. The Mantra rises above them all.
Anyone knows if a binding with 97mm brake will fit these skis? Or will I have to purchase wider brakes? I was thinking on getting the tyrolia peak 15 bindings for my pair of mantra.
Just got these. I've only skied one day with the Mantras, but I can tell you that the ski has already made me a better skier. These have honestly made me ski faster, especially through crud, because they give me more confidence in variable conditions. I'm an entry level expert skier. I don't exactly charge down the mountain, but I can get down pretty much anything. These skis are most definitely confidence inspiring. Not only do they do crud with ease, they're outstanding on the groomers. They don't carve quite as well as my old carving oriented skis, but they still do a damn good job. So basically, if you spend over 50% of your time off-piste, but still appreciate a nice groomed run from time to time, get these. They're simply amazing. Haven't tried them in powder yet, but I'm sure they'll perform well due to their relative fatness and floaty tip. Also, the semi-twin tip is a nice feature. I've skied backwards with some success. The only negative is that they're not very good in moguls, but I knew that when I bought these and I don't do moguls that much. BTW, I'm 5'10 155lbs and I got the 177. I believe I made the right choice for everyday conditions. 184 would have been nice for ensuring float in pow, but I think 177 mades sense for me for enjoying everyday conditions. In a nutshell, these are outstanding skis for any confident advanced to expert skier. I'd buy these again in a heartbeat.
I'm 5 foot 10 and I weigh about 155. I'm a pretty athletic skier, and very aggressive. I feel very comfortable in tight trees and deep powder. I was wondering what size you would recommend. I ski a Nordica Hot Rod at home in the East Coast, and I've skied that ski in some really deep pow, but I feel the size is too short....170cm. I want something to serve as my western ski, for the 20 or so days I ski out west.
Hope not to be hijacking this thread, but here are specs from the Swedish version (the English one does not have the specs, strangely) of the website that 2010-2011 Volkl photo below came from: Mantra (170,177,184,191) 133-96-116 R=24.8 Kendo (163,170,177,184,191) 127-88-109 R=26.2 Neither should have a rocker b/c all rocker skis are labelled as such.
FYI Volkl in 2010-2011 does not appear to be replacing the Mantra. Kendo is supposedly 87 mm waist and the Mantra remains. Volkl's international website also mentions some of this.
Go with the Marker Baron 12. Less hefty than the Duke and allow you to use the climbing mode to get into the sidecountry or up to the untracked freshies faster than hiking.
Further testimonial to my written review "The Best Quiver Of One Ski." Here is a very brief video to demonstrate the Mantra's ability to carve GS turns. See URL link below:
Thank you for the great feedback on the Mantra...probably going to go for the 184. Looking at the Marker Jester there is the B110 (brakes for all mtn skis and some powder skis) and the B130 for powder skis. I imagine the 110mm brakes will be wide enough? Thanks.
I ski a pair of '06 Mantras, and it's the best All Mountain ski I have ever skied; I absolutely love it. It does everything you ask it to, from floating through the pow, to blasting through heavy crud, to carving super tight GS turns on the groomers. And when I say carve, I truly mean it. I'm continually amazed at how a 96mm waisted ski can be so effortlessly tipped and hold an edge like you're on rails. The Mantras ski stiff, are extremely stable at high speeds, and reward charging. When conditions start to get a bit tracked up, I have complete confidence that I can ride the edges through any tracks or heavy crud in front of me. This is where the Sensorwood core and titanium stiffening truly shine. However, they are not so stiff as to not be nimble and responsive. I have no problem threading the glades, bumps, or whatever else. This truly is my quiver of one ski. I have- and continue to, ski it everywhere on the mountain, in all conditions.
Personally, I'm a pretty big guy- athletic build, 6'0", 225# (think fullback). I ski a 177, set up with Marker Comp1400's. I tend to charge hard and ski aggressively. I do have a second pair of 183, 123mm waisted skis specifically for Big Mountain Freeride. That being said, I have absolutely no problems skiing my Mantras in the steep and deep lines. I've been skiing Volkls for years, and have come to love the brand. I've never had any quality defects or issues with them. I was disappointed to see the 1 star review, and to read about the quality and warranty issues. I don't think this is at all reflective of the Volkl brand overall, and would not hesitate to buy another Volkl ski- especially with Backcountry's fantastic return policy and customer service.
Volkl Mantra or Gotoma? Leaning toward Mantra. Just moved to SF Bay area from East Coast and will ski Tahoe + one trip to Vail. Probably glades and steeps 60% and fast, groomed runs 40%. Aggressive and BIG skier....6'3" and 235lb. Thinking Mantra in a 191 with Marker Jester bindings.
I'd say go with the Mantra. It's far more versatile than the Gotama, IMO. Very stable at high speeds and on edge. You may even want to look at the 184. The 191 may be a bit cumbersome in the trees. Go with the Marker Jester bindings for sure.
If you want to add a second fat alpine ski to compliment the Mantra, I highly recommend making a solid two-size jump up in waist dimensions. Look for something in the 116-125MM range. I ski a 177 Mantra w/Marker Comp1400's for All Mountain, and a 183CM (123MM Waist) Atomic Bent Chetler w/Marker Jesters for Big Mountain.
I have bought and sold quite a few skis over the last few years. This one may be the only one I regret selling. The mantra is a classic volkl. It is damp, stiff and not a super high energy ski. That being said, it can plow through anything. For someone who skis a lot of crud, the mantra brings a feeling of confidence that few other skis can provide. It can also carve better than any other ski I have ridden with its size.
I have a new pair of 184cm Mantra's. What bindings do you recommend? I'm 6'1", 208 lbs, aggressive all mountain skier. Mostly ski in Western US, BC. Mostly lift-served areas, very little hiking. 52 years old & been skiing about 40 years.
I'm a Marker fan, so I'm going to speak towards that brand...
I would recommend the Marker Jester for you. I know a 16 DIN probably sounds outrageous, but there is sound logic behind it. For an aggressive, 205# skier, your DIN setting will be somewhere in the 9-12 range (depending on your preference). A relative middle setting is where the binding performs the best and most consistently. It also prevents the spring from suffering from undue compression, which can lead to binding pre-release. That's the logic behind the high DIN rating.
Ive got about 15 days on these skis (mostly at JHMR) and love them. They're fast, stable and make late day crud tolerable. Im 5'10" 210 with an athletic build and ride them in a 177 with marker griffon bindings.
I suggest the 177CM for you. I'm 35, and the 177CM is what I ski. It is extremely adept in all conditions, agile, nimble, and FUN! The 185CM is more work and likely more than you need- unless you ski steep, long, virgin fall lines.
To read more of more of my comments, see my review below "Mantra is the True one-ski quiver"
I have terrorized squaw valley in steep gnar for two seasons on these skis. They can handle anything...ice, heavy wet sierra cement, loose frozen crud, and they are champs in the pow...if it's white they'll bite. I can honestly say that this ski made me a better skier. I am buying a pair of 185cm Kuro's for storm days and a trip to alaska in april, but the mantra will remain as my everyday ski. BTW I am 35, 5'7", 150lbs., ski 50+dpy, and ski the mantra at the 177cm length. Don't be afraid to size up on this ski...Your confidence in all conditions will increase the more you ride on them...so don't go to short! Hope this helped.
I ski out west every year and enjoy glade skiing, bumps and bowls. My Salomon X scream @177 seem more geared to east coast skiing where I'm from. I was looking at the Mantras @ 170cm; I'm 5'7" and 165lb. Any suggestions?
Hi, I am 180 cm tall, weight far to much ..over 110 kg, in bad shape, skiing mostly the Scandinavian mountains. I bought these skis last season. I have used them approx. 20 times now. It started by lend a couple Mantra 184(?). Those skies took me with a big surprise, I loved them. They are very good in groomed pists with "soft" surface. Then I contact some friends in Revelstoke, BC. I wanted a good fatski. They said it was a very good ski, but go for the longest ski I could find. So I did, I bought 191 without trying them first. I have never regret that. This ski is even more stable in groomed pists with "soft" surface, in high speeds were 184 tend to be a bit nervous, the 191 was not even close to feel nervous and unstable. Pretty good on ice surface too, but absolute no racing ski ( as my Volkl supersport ski)....on the other hand, as said before high speed is not big problem. In my opinion, it floats better than 184 in powder snow. I would recommend trying 191, I feel they are more versatile than the shorter Mantras. I use Mantra with Marker Duke binding and have started to use them as randonee ski as well, walking a couple of kilometers. I feel they are ok for randonee use too, but maybe a bit heavy if your trips will last 3 -4 hours of walking....
I hope you understand this, english is not my first language.
ok forum, could use some advise from Mantra skiers. I am trying to determine the appropriate length given these would be my first 'wide' skis. I am 6'1 205, experienced skier, and previously skied P50's 183. I mostly ski Tahoe, and looking for guidance on Mantra 177 vs. 184. Your advise on length?
I have had these for two seasons now and I absolutely love them. I typically ski vermont and they are outstanding except for when there is the notorious northeast ice which they are terrible in. I have brought these out to colorado and alaska with me last year and they were amazing. These are usually my go to ski for most conditions they are good on groomers and they eat up crud like its thanksgiving dinner but when the snow gods decide to dump that's when these babies come alive they like to go fast and are extremely stable at high speeds. I have the marker jester bindings mounted on them I am 6'0 200lbs and I ski the 177's
I would go with the 184 for a fun quick ski. if you want a strong big ski you could go with the 191, but that would be allot of ski. so (not to confuse you) i would go with the 184. it will be a great mid fat ski.
Super badass ski! Worked well in everything from ripping GS style turns on the groomers, hitting the bumps, and floated nicely in 2ft of pow. I love this ski!
I'm a 6'-4", 215lb east coast skier. The dozen or so times I can get out I try to time the trip with some sort of snowfall. I spend most of the day in the glades,which by the end of the day are mogul trails with trees in the way. If the tree lines are shot I'll seek out bump runs or the sides of steep trails where the snow isn't scraped down to ice. Thinking about the mantra. A friend of mine loves his 08/09 Elan 888. Any advice
Both great skis. I like the construction of the 888 bette. you can't go wrong. you east coast skiing will excel with the 888, they have better edge to edge handling and they will be great in the glades and the bumps.
I bought a pair of Mantra's and used them less than 50 days. The base started bubbling and, eventually, peeling at the logo on the tips. The edges are coming apart from the sidewall about 8" long under the binding. They were sent back to Volkl and returned without repair. The reason, I'm told, is, get this, "moisture". Nothing else. No warranty, $800, 50 days and I'm screwed, no further explanation. I have to buy new skis but they WILL NOT be Volkl's. Thought you should consider this before buying any Volkl products...I have pics if you want to see them...
so i was absolutely shocked when i saw this ski had a one star review--I had to check it out. I was even more disappointed to see that it was a warranty issue and not an actual ski review. I come from the belief that there are always going to be lemons in the bunch--but with backcountry.com's fantastic warranty and the repair service that I have received from volkl (they replaced my 07 gotama's with 08's) has been outstanding. Im on my fifth or sixth pair of volkl's and I have never heard anything but positive things about Volkl. My advice....buy volkl from backcountry with confidence!!
This is a solid buyer-beware comment. If the product fails too soon, then it's not worth buying. The bc.com warranty is great, but dealing with any warranty is costs time and money. jr, solid review, hopefully Volkl will address this.
the comment moisture means you need to actually wax your skis. I've been skiing on volkl for the past 5 seasons and i have had nothing but solid performance out of my skis. the bubbling on your bases are due to the burns they get without the proper protection of wax.
I just don´t get it. Is it possible not to wax the skis? You dont buy Mantra as your first pair of skis and since you have owned skis before you ought to know that skis needs to be waxed regurarly or the base will be burned and bubbling. That will happen to every ski. I have friends with the same problem on other brands, a friend of mine has a 50 cm "antenna" on his ski. The edge has fell off due to no maintenance, such as not waxing the skis and so on. You easily see bubbles at the skis to.
If you have waxed your skis often, then I see no reason for Volkl not to replace them.
I'm an agressive girl skier (5'10", 140lbs, ski 80-100 days/yr, used to compete) and I've been scoping out the mantra and aura as my new ski hill ski for BC kootenay mountains. I can't seem to find demos for either of these in the right length that actually fit my small ski boots so I'm looking at buying without trying. I've never been tempted by a women's only ski as a rule, but maybe I'm being narrow-minded. I'm wondering if there's any input on which ski I should go for, mantra or aura?
Hi ski neighbor- I'm in North Idaho. I ski ID, WA, MT, WY, BC, so I know your home conditions well. The Mantra is my go-to ski...
I'd recommend the 170 Mantra for you. The Aura and Mantra are extremely similar. However, The 170 Mantra gives you +2mm in the waist, and +3mm in the tip over the 170 Aura, and has a -2m shorter turning radius (18.2m) to boot! Being that you're an aggressive skier and and ex-comp gal, it should be a great fit for you.
The Mantra skis stiff and fast (Volkl's race pedigree), is very stable at high speeds, and holds an incredible edge- characteristics you are probably well accustomed to and like. However, it's still responsive, nimble, and playful. The Sensorwood core and Titanium reinforcement help the Mantra to blow through heavy crud and tracked up areas (this is key for heavy Kootenay snow IMO). The extra width in the tip and waist over the Aura will give you added float in the deep.
For more, you can read my review below: "The Best Quiver Of One Ski." Hope this helps.
I'm 5'7" and 155 pounds. Pretty aggressive skiier who will ski all parts of the mountain out west. Currently ski Volkl AC30 in 163 and looking to buy Mantas in 170. Want to keep it a little shorter for the trees and frontside stuff, but wondering if the 177 is a better idea?
I would lean towards the 177 for you (though you could do either). Here are my thoughts behind the 177 choice:
Since you're an aggressive skier, you should able to ski the ski instead of things being the other way around. The Mantra skis stiff, so just be sure to stay in the driver's seat and charge. The 177 will be give you a bit more stability on the steep lines, and a little more float in the deep. Lastly, if you're a young gun and still growing, the 177 will serve you better in the future.
For more, you can read my review below: "The Best Quiver Of One Ski"
I'm a girl, ski mostly Colorado and Europe, just moved to the Aspen area. I own a pair of Auras and LOVE them to death, 170 or 173s (last year model). I am 5'8 and weight about 135, strong girl. Ski everything (grew up in the Alps). What ski should I choose for thsi season amongst the following: Mantra 170, Payback 160, Shogun 173, Lady 169? My choice would probably be between the Mantra 170 and Lady 169, although they both sound a little short. Any suggestion? Thanks!
wondering how the Mantra would be for a 5'9",120lb., 16 year old He skis at Squaw Valley--Headwall and KT,-22, also skiis out East --Virgil NY--Greek Peak, colder and icy.
Hey S, the Mantra truly is a great ski. And while your son sounds like a great skier, I have a feeling at 120lbs he would have a very tough time flexing this ski enough to make it useful. I'd look for something a bit softer! Good luck!
Depending on how he skis, this is a really good choice for all-mountain stuff, but like the description says, pretty much expert all-mountain. Another ski, that I find way more versatile personally, is the K2 Kung Fujas, which is about the same waist dimensions, and has the ability to kill park, pow, groomers, and glades. If he is aggressive/expert skier, then for sure the Mantra would work out for him.
I'm a girl and I'm moving away from race ski because lets face it, that part of my life is wayyyy over and no where near as much fun as the all mountain terrain Ive been skiing in the last 5 years. I'm moving from fischer Slalom's and want to know if the Mantra's would be a good fit, I've heard awesome things but only from my guy friends. I'd consider myself and advanced-expert skier whose stuck on the east coast so has to be prepared for the pa cked pow and ice we get.
I'm a another 'guy with advice' so I may not have the info you're looking for, but I can tell you that you'd love a ski like this for all-mountain, east coast to west skiing. The Mantra has a great snappiness and edge hold for a wider ski, turns quick and easy, and thanks to the metal layer won't wuss out when you're going fast on hard or crappy snow. I've spent years working in demo shops and these skis were on the mountain every day, and every day people came back with smiles. There is a sharp looking ladies version, the Aura (VKL0070) which is another great ski. Pick up a pair, I can guarantee that you'll love them and, of course, you can always send them back to us if you don't!
I'm a smaller dude, 5'6" 140lbs, so I've leaned towards more forgiving skis in the past. Coming off of Pocket Rockets now, and consider either the Shogun or these Mantras. But my impression of Volkls is they've been too stiff for me in the past. I ski fairly aggressively, everywhere except no bumps. Would these Mantras be a good fit, or too stiff?
I would say test them out maybe if you can, because I don't find Mantra's to be too stiff, but I like a fairly stiff ski. If you ski aggressively, maybe a stiffer ski would be a good choice, because the performance you can get out of something less forgiving really can help you progress. The Shogun might be a better fit as in you would be more used to them out of the box, but Volkl makes a decent product, and I think you would get used to them quickly and dig it.
I'm personally impartial to marker bindings...specifally the griffons and the jesters. I have both and just love them. The griffons and jesters both can be bought with wider brakes...which you need with the 96mm under food. The only difference signifcant differance between the bindings are that the jesters have a DIN of 16 and the the griffons have a 12. Enjoy your Mantras...they are sick skis
Hi. I'm looking for some advice on some powder skis that will perform well in all-mountain situations. I curently have one pair of K2 Apache series skis and have narrowed the field down to K2 Coomba and either Volkl Mantra or the Katana. I've never owned a twin-tip, and being 35 yo will probably not become an efficient arialist as I do not enjoy the ER. Much Thanks.
I have tried the gotamas, mantras and katanas. For me the Katanas is where its at. I felt they were the best for all conditions. What sealed the deal for me was when I demoed the Katans on a day when there had been no new snow for weeks. The Katans performed way better on the hard pack and ice then I had ever thought. I have no input on the coombas because I have never tried them.
Like Sam said the best thing to do is demo the ski (in multiple conditions if you can) to see what works best for you.
I agree that they are very different skis, but you said powder skis.
Please go for the Gotama -- I know you CAN ride switch and jump with them, I rarely do, and use them for traditional powder skiing, and they don't disappoint. You won't regret getting them.
I had the Mantra last year and replaced it with the Line Prophet 100 because I already had race skis and wanted more powder and less groomer performance.
So if you aren't looking at anything else besides those three, the Coomba or the Katana is the choice you need to make. If your a point 'em charger, then go for the Coomba, but if you want the deep snow, then dot he Katana.
Twin tips and fattie skis aren't just for the park and pipe anymore. (see history of LINE skis and taking the fun back from snowboarders in '92-present).
Twin tip skis can give you a really fun skiing experience, even if you never go a--first. The geometry of a twin tip and most modern powder skis gives you a lot of not just maneuverability, but recoverability, meaning you can extend further forward or aft of the sweet spot and recover quicker, a trait that is very useful in powder and moguls. These skis also often have a damper tail section, making them quicker to scrub speed, and less squirrely to ride from the back seat (or in the deep). Consider those attributes bizarre by-products of making skis easier to land jumps poorly.
As to Coomba v. Mantra v. Katana? Those are all very different skis: demo. Buy by feel, not by numbers.
Write your question here...I am 5'11", weigh 170 lbs. and ski about 30 days a year in Colorado. I mix the front steep and bumps with the back side trees and any powder that I can find. Would you recommend this in 170 or 177 for me? Thanks
I'm and advanced skier and was out 39 times last season. I bought some Mantras last spring (to compliment my Volkl AC4's also in 170) in the 170. I'm 5' 10" and 195 and ski mostly at Mt. Baker Washington. These skis are great for all of the mountain. I carry a GPS so I know they are great at 45+mph on groomers, great in 12/18" of powder (probably not as light as Colorado powder) and fast and quick thru the trees. I put Marker Griffons on them and am really pleased with the setup.
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