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When Volkl completely redesigned the Gotama, skiers around the world felt the shockwave for days. Luckily, the result is a ski worthy of the name. From Platonically smooth groomed runs and the deepest of powder dreams to the nerve-wracking hell of chopped, sun-baked and refrozen crud, the new Gotama utilizes Volkl’s flex-tuned ELP profile to provide unmatched versatility and unshakeable confidence in variable conditions. Where the old Goat was merely great, the new one is on another level of performance and intuitive handling.
Elongated Low-Profile rocker design enhances maneuverability and float in powder while retaining consistent edge contact for hardpack conditions
Sensorwood core with carbon Powerbox reinforcement for resilient, lightweight damping and powerful edge hold
3 tuned flex zones: stiff nose for stability, medium midsection transitioning to softer tail for forgiveness and powder performance
Low tip shape prevents hooking on hard snow and crud without losing float
I'm currently on 3yr old Gotama's (2006 - white top) at 176cm. I love the ski, especially in the trees, but in the powder it doesn't always meet the cut. I'm 5'11", ~175lbs... would the 186cm for this year be a better choice, or the 178cm with the new rocker technology? I don't necessairly want to lose the quickness in the trees, but definitely want something better for the pow.
These skis are sick. The mounting point is very crucial with the reverse camber--you don't want to go too far forward as it makes the tip go lower, but if you mount them on center or back, then that might be what causes you to feel your tails washing out. I mount them 2cm forward (I usually mount my skis forward anyways) and find it just right for my weight & skiing style on the 186cm length. Enjoy!
where would you rate this ski in its versatility when comparing it to previous gotama models? do you find it more deep-snow, big line specific or would you categorize it as an everyday expert resort ski?
Any solid recommendations for mounting point for tele on the 09/10? I'm an aggressive 200lb 70 day/yr skier on hammerheads. I've been skiing the gold Gotamas at +1cm and love that but wonder if it wouldn't carve better on chord.
It pains me to say this; If you have a quiver and if the Goat has been your daily ski then you might be dissapointed with this version of one of the best skis ever made. I've been on the gold ones for two years and just love them. But when I skied the 2010 version late last year I couldn't keep the tails from washing out on steeper terrain (can't tell if its the tail rocker or the softened tail flex). Perhaps not by coincidence but that was actually a tester comment in the magazine reviews this year. At any rate, its still a first class ski and if it is your one ski quiver then it may have been improved for you based on its powder performance. But if this will be your quiver make sure you demo them on the terrain you call steep. And as with prior Goats, the boot center line is too far back. Hope that helps.
I can't speak to the accuracy of the mounting line shown on the new goats, but based on Ingrid's review I trust that it means something on these boards. But in regards to SquawBrat's comment about the boot center line being too far back on prior Goats, I found some very interesting (and disturbing) information after hours of research on this topic. When I was mounting the Gold Gotamas for the third time (I kept ripping my tele bindings out of them), I found a web forum used by ski shop owners/managers to talk shop, and they went back and forth for pages about how to mount Gotamas. The final post that ended all conversation came from a shop owner who finally reached an engineer at Volkl and got the real info--apparently, the graphic designers just plopped an "x" on the boards where they thought it looked good an labeled it as "boot center" with no regard for the design of the ski itself. This apparently deliberate F*up is obvious when you compare a few Gold Gotamas to each other--even in the same length, the graphics often don't line up from ski to ski, and neither do the boot center marks. In order to find the real mounting line, you've got to measure the ski and mark the true center and go from there. Telemarktips.com has some great info on how to do this for telemark bindings--good luck for you fixed-heelers, I have no idea where you should go to figure out how to mount them. That said, the old goats were my favorite ski ever until I broke them (on a drill line...guess that mounting them three times wasn't a structurally sound idea ;)
Wow; didn't expect to hear design criteria like that! But it's also a bit consistent with what my shop said when they first mounted my bindings. They said they measure because they can't count on the line(s) being in the right spot (my boot center line happened to be on spec). But what got me is that after reading some threads re ball of the foot placement I checked my Goats and the recomendation was 10.5 cm behind the center of the running length. Based on my foot I had them re-mounted 3cm forward and it really improved an already great ski (for old school all mountain; no park).
Any solid recommendations for mounting point for tele? I'm an aggressive 200lb 70 day/yr skier on hammerheads. I believe I've been skiing the gold Gotamas at +1cm and love that but wonder if it wouldn't carve better on chord..
I had only one deep, light Squaw day w/a demo pair of these, but they gave me, hands down, the best run I've ever experienced down Tower 16 (and some amazing Granite Chief laps, too) in the well over 1000 days that I've had at Squaw. They could do no wrong, except for the fact that they upset my girlfriend--I was on Gotamas and smiling, she wasn't, and was working hard to keep up.
Honestly, I can't report on their hardpack performance--I didn't ski any (so I can't say one way or another about their tails washing out, though it sounds like this is mainly an issue of mount position). All I know is that I'm getting a pair. My main go-to ski is the Nordica Jet Fuel (an amazing all-mountain ski), but I expect that the Gotamas will become my powder ski of choice.
Would you say that the new Gotama model is more suited for everyday skiing at Squaw or last year's model? How did they handle in steep hardpack? Some reviewers have indicated that tail seems to slide away a little on the new model, did you experience this? Thanks!
Compared to previous Gotamas (I ride the 08s) how easy/not is it to stomp cliff drops? With the rockered tail, do you have to land completely centered, or its a backslap?
I had few days on these last year that were some of my best. This ski to me is a great all around all mountain board. This year the Gotama has a bow of reverse camber running the entire length of the ski. I believe this makes it the easiest ski it transfer from edge to edge. Having that slight bow all the way through really helps to stay locked in to an aggressive ark once you have initiated your turn. It blow the parabolic technology out of the water. It is also a very fun ski in the powder and stays a float that much easier. Very Fun Stuff!!!!!
Dash, where did you have your gotamas mounted? I have the 186 and I' am gonna mount the barons on them. I want them to be slashy/playful but still charge and float well. I' am probly asking for too much here but any suggestions would be great. Thinking of going +1 forward as of now
So I have this question posted below on Dash's review and then decided to throw it up here also. I have the 186's and will be mounting the Barons on them and I' am trying to figure out where I want to mount them, currently thinking about +1 which seems to be the consensus on TGR's forum for all around performance with some switch riding. However I have also heard +2 from Ingrid below so I'am just throwing this out cause I want a good slashy/playful ski that will also charge and slay the pow. I' am asking for too much? let me know what ya think. Thanks
For slash turns, I like to have a little less in front of my boot, so that there is less out there to catch in the snow. I almost always mount an all-mountain/big-mountain ski at +2, because they still charge hard, are not too far off trad, and don't catch at the tip when sideways as much. You are more centered on the ski also, so ripping pow and pillows in a good body position is easier.
When I saw a pair of these beauties cruise through the shop last season, I knew it was time to dive into this strange new world. Enough wondering what it would be like, enough hype. As a Pro Patrol I demand a lot from my skis. At 140 lbs, I was a little apprehensive on the 186'ers, turns out they were perfect. Sadly, there was little new snow to speak of but maybe that was ticket to truly understand this ski's potential. Groomers, bumps, chop, I hit it all, and hit it hard. The ski was solid, easy to handle, a pleasure to drive. It took about two turns to figure out how mush effort was needed to initiate a turn. It took two more to fall in love. I skied the Mantra and loved it too. I was convinced that was my new ski until the Gotama forced me to reconsider. If you are looking to dive into the world of reverse camber, the Gotama has it all. I can only imagine the performance of this ski in powder, but back to reality, even when the weather guy is wrong, the Gotama's feel so right.
Looking into these for my 16 year old son, he is 5'8" and 115 lbs, light but very athletic and skis 30 days a year. Is this to much ski or would he rock the mountain with it?
I would have him look at Mantra instead. Smaller size too. Depends on what he skis, but at 30 days per year at his age, I imagine he is probably loving it and ambitious. That is how I was until college when 60-100 days a year was more likely. These will probably last him through freshman year of college, get SOLID boots, a binding with a good DIN range, and probably look at Mantra if you are looking at Volkl only. Check out some other places like Teton Gravity Research Forums and backcountry outlet.
I am also from Montana and have been riding a gotama for a few years now. These are probably the most fun skis I have ever stepped into. After that being said, I am 20 years old 5'11" and come in at 180lbs and I still ride on a 178cm gotama. They did rocker it up a tad this year but I'm going to have to say it probably still needs to be muscled around a bit. Its a lot of ski to control. I'm afraid it may overpower someone of smaller stature.
These are some pretty stiff boards. Being that light, even a 178 will probably be a lot for him to handle. I'm 175lbs and picked up 183s last year. I have to be on point when I ride these, if I start slacking off at all they let me know it. Definitely not a forgiving ski, which is why I wouldn't recommend them for a lightweight. At least for last years model. I know they rockered the tip and tail this year, but I'm pretty sure it's just as stiff.
Been skiing the previous Gotama as everyday ski for the last couple seasons. Skied the new version at the end of last year in Chamonix. It has a very different feel, as it should, with the new rocker design. What it gained was better maneuverability in all conditions. What it gave up was the supreme stability that the older version had. Bottom line: Great ski for powder days, not the go-to all conditions ski in the quiver that the previous version was.
Looking @ mounting the new gotama. Have been reading everything I can find. Nothing is given me a solid answer on how the ski groves @ all the different mount points. Any advice??
I am 5'8 and 150 lbs, I usually ride 169's or so at the resort and I am torn between the 170s and the 178's for backcountry use mounted AT. How much of a difference would 8cm make? I really don't have much of a chance to demo anything around here which makes this difficult.
I would definitely go with the 178's. The new Gotama has a slight reverse camber (rocker) to it, so it skis a little bit shorter.. less contact with the snow. I am also 5'8 and love both the 178 and the 186's. Length is a plus if you're looking to fly through the powder, but if you're digging the tight trees and short radius turns, shorter may be a better call, either way, you'll love this ski!
Well I would say grab the 178cm. The float and stability will definitely be a plus, and you should still be able to drive them around. The AT will still be good for you on the 178 too. The little extra weight shouldn't change the touring capabilities too much either.
I skied these last year on about a 16 inch powder day at Snowbird. They seemed pretty quick in the trees, but it will be somewhat skill dependent how they work. The rocker in theory makes this a quicker ski - easier to smear it around. However, i am not sure I would consider this a "bump" ski - it WILL work, but not the ski's strong suit. I was also impressed with the ski when you got to bottom area which had been groomed. Volkl has something with their rocker design, it carves quite well compared to a lot of other rocker skis. Finally, I have never skied a Volkl that I would consider unsteady or unstable. Hope this helps.
I am 6' 195 lbs and love to ski vail's back bowls and all of alta. i occasionally ski in the east (since i live here) but 90% of my skiing is done out west. i am a very good skier (not a pro) ... what size do you think is right for me?
I have a 5 year old pair of apache recons in the 177 length, but i am thinking i should go much bigger because of the rocker. or should i start a quiver and just go full bore for the katanas instead?
No, I have the Gotama's and they are perfectly fine as an all mountain ski. I wouldn't pass them up for katanas.
As far as size, I went much bigger, and they were fine. But I wouldn't suggest just going nuts, because you do want the all mountain maneuverability. So go somewhere in the early 180s.
1 Comment Last Comment: September 16, 2009 by: Peter Sanford
By: Peter Sanford
September 16, 2009
where would you rate this ski in its versatility when comparing it to previous gotama models? do you find it more deep-snow, big line specific or would you categorize it as an everyday expert resort ski?
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