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Timbuk2 333 Classic Messenger Bag - 2008

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Timbuk2 333 Classic Messenger Bag - 2008

Some say the Timbuk2 Classic Messenger is the bag that started it all; this rig, originally built as a rugged necessity for urban bicycle warriors, quickly became the hippest under-the-radar carry-all for everyone from metro commuters to tree-hugging granola munchers. The high-quality materials and construction make the Timbuk2 Classic an extremely durable, long-lasting bag. Want to know the best part? Thanks to the waterproof vinyl inner lining, the Classic Messenger doubles as a killer beer cooler. Just throw in some ice and some malty ones and be set for a mellow day of Frisbee golf in the park. *Does not have a laptop pocket but fits laptops to the dimensions specified.

Bottom Line: It's a bag, it's a cooler, it's an international symbol of protest against unnecessary fuel consumption. Commuters unite!

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What is the difference between this bag (the 333) and the classic

What is the difference between this bag (the 333) and the classic bag?

By: Robert Stevens
February 4, 2009

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Great bag but...

By: noiedom
May 2, 2009

This bag is great, very stylish but be careful: contrary to the description above, this bag does NOT have a laptop pocket. It is just one main compartment with small organizing pockets in the front. I bought thinking I could use for my laptop, so now I have to buy a laptop sleeve in addition to protect it...

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Does this bag have that little under arm strap that keeps it

Does this bag have that little under arm strap that keeps it from twisting around your body if you wear it while riding a bike?

By: Omless Wanderer
November 3, 2008

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It sure does. I just bought one and it was in a package inside one of the pockets.

By: Robert Stevens
February 8, 2009

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Is the shoulder strap long enough to go across the body -- not

Is the shoulder strap long enough to go across the body -- not just over the shoulder? And how heavy is it? I am going to be on crutches for a while. Thanks.

By: jhs2413802
September 12, 2008

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JHS,Yes, the shoulder strap can be adjusted to be reaaaally long (if i pull it all the way out, the bag hangs at or below my butt). It can also be pulled in pretty tight. I never carry my bag just on my shoulder, it's always swung across me. And I used this bag on crutches. It depends how much you put it in, obviously, but the bag itself is really light. But super sturdy. Hope this helps and that you heal soon!

By: courtneyw2335830
September 18, 2008

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						<span class="improve_link" onclick="window.location='https://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/cpi_edit/TBK0058.html?image_id=${id}';"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Tweak This</a></span>
					{/if}
					<span class="zoom_link" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();BCNTRY.product_wall_image_zoom(this.parentNode.parentNode)"><a class="cpi_zoom" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="return false;">Zoom</a></span>
				</p>
			</div>
			{if message}<div class="cpi_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
			<div class="error_message"></div>
		</div> 
	 	<div class="cpi_right">
			<div class="the_comments">
				{if comment.comment_count > 0}
					<p class="cpi_options">
						<div class="comment_summary" id=${comment.comment_count}>
							  <h4 class="thread_info">
								  <a href="#" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.toggle_comments_onclick(this, 'cpi', '${id}');return false;" class="comments_toggler">${comment.comment_count} {if comment.comment_count == 1} Comment {else} Comments {/if}</a> 
								  Last Comment: <span class="cpi_date">${comment.latest_comment_submit_dt}</span>
								  by: <a class="user_profile_link"  href="${comment.profile_url}">${comment.latest_comment_user_display_name}</a>
							  </h4>
						 </div>
						 <div class="threaded_comments_cpi"></div>
					</p>
				{/if}
				<div class="error_message"></div>
				{if comment.solicit_comment_display == 'normal'}
					<div class="inline_solicitation">
					  <div class="comment_container">
							<form class="provide_comment_form" name="comment_cpi" method="POST" enctype="multipart/form-data" action="https://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/cpicomment/TBK0058/${id}" >
								<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${id}" />
								<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="cpi" />
								<div class="error_message"></div>
								<div class="textarea_container"> 
									<textarea class="comment_content" name="comment_content" onkeyup="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onkeyup(this.form)" onfocus="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onfocus(this.form)">Write your comment here...</textarea>
									<input type="hidden" name="comment_content_default" value="Write your comment here..." /> 
								</div> 
								<input type="image" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/comment_it.gif" alt="Submit Comment"  class="answer_it_button" /> 
								<span class="comment_chars"></span>
							</form>
						</div> 
					</div>
				{elseif comment.solicit_comment_display == 'collapsed'}
					<div id="comment_solicit" class="comment_solicit">
						<p><a href="http://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/cpicomment/TBK0058/" rel="nofollow">Comment on ${user.display_name}'s photo ></a></p>
					</div>
				{/if}
		 	</div> 
		 	<div class="error_message"></div>
		</div> 
	{elseif display == 'flagged'}
		<div class="cpi_item">
			<div class="cpi_text">
				<p class="user_flagged_text">
					<span onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_cpi_show_onclick(this, '${id}')">
						<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">${flagged_description}</a>
					</span>
				</p>
			</div>
			{if message}<div class="cpi_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
		</div>
	{/if}

<div class="flag_container">
		<form class="flag_as_offensive" method="post" onsubmit="return false;" action="#">
			{if content_type == 'comment'}
				<input type="hidden" name="comment_id" value="${comment_id}"/>
			{else}
				{if content_type == 'answer'}
					<input type="hidden" name="question_id" value="${question_id}"/>
				{else}
					<input type="hidden" name="question_id" value="${content_id}"/>
				{/if}
				
				<input type="hidden" name="answer_id" value="${content_id}"/>
				<input type="hidden" name="cpi_id"    value="${content_id}"/>
				<input type="hidden" name="review_id" value="${content_id}"/>
			{/if}
			<span class="flag_close" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.close_dialog_onclick(this)"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/pdp/flag_close.gif" alt="Close the flagging form" class="flag_close"/></a></span>

<h4>Something rub you the wrong way?</h4>
			<p>Thanks for pointing it out. We'll send it immediately to our clean up crew. If you don't mind pointing us in the right direction...</p>
			<div class="error_message"></div>
			<p>
				This post was:
				<input type="text" name="flag_description" />
				(Optional)
			</p>
			<div class="clearb"></div>
			{if is_from_carousel}
				<input class="save_answer_button" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_carousel_${content_type}_submit_onclick(this.form)" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/save_qa.gif" type="image" />
			{else}
				<input class="save_answer_button" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_${content_type}_submit_onclick(this.form)" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/save_qa.gif" type="image" />
			{/if}
		</form>
	</div>

<div class="review" id="review_${review_id}">
		<div>
			{if image_url_small}
				<div class="content_image">
                    <a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return hs.expand(this);">
						${image_el_small}
					</a>
					<span class="zoom_link" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return BCNTRY.product_wall_image_zoom(this)"><a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="return false;">Zoom</a></span>
					</a>
				</div>
			{/if}
			${review_rank_img}
			<h3><a href="${review_link}">${title}</a></h3>
            <p>By: <a class="user_profile_link" href="${review_profile_link}"> ${review_display_name} </a>
                   <a class="user_profile_link" href="${review_profile_link}"><img class="minipro_icon" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/profile/minipro_icon.gif" alt="" /></a>
				   {if user.badges}
					   	{for badge in user.badges}
							${badge.image_el}
						{/for}
					{/if}
                <br/><span class="review_date">${review_date}</span></p>			
            <div class="review_text">
            <p>${review_comments}</p>
            </div>
            <form class="helpfulness_form">
                <input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="review" />
                <input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${review_id}" />
                <input type="hidden" name="is_helpful" value="" />
                <p>
                    Was this helpful?
                    ${helpful_html}
                </p>
				<p class="review_options">
					<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Flag</a></span>
       	               <span class="improve_link" onclick="window.location='${editReviewURL}'">
              		       	<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Tweak This</a>
       	       	       </span>
     					<span class="edit_img_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.inactivate_review_submit_onclick(this, '${review_id}')">
				   		<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Delete Review</a>
					</span>
				</p>
				<div class="confirmation">Thanks for the review, ${review_display_name}.</div>
           </form>
		</div>
	</div>

{if display == 'normal'}
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_title" value="${title}" />
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_rank" value="${rank}" />
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_body" value="${body}" />
		<input type="hidden" id="review_${review_id}_img_url" value="${image_url_small}" />
		${rank_image}
		<div class="review_item">
			{if image_url_small}
				<div class="content_image">
                    <a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return hs.expand(this);">
						${image_el_small}
					</a>
					<span class="zoom_link" onclick="track_pdp_user_image_zoom();return BCNTRY.product_wall_image_zoom(this)"><a class="cpi_zoom" rel="nofollow" href="${image_url_large}" onclick="return false;">Zoom</a></span>
					</a>
				</div>
			{/if}
			<div class="content_right{if ! image_url_small} expanded{/if}">
				<h3><a href="${review_link}">${title}</a></h3>
				<p>By: <a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}">${user.display_name}</a> 
					<a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}"><img class="minipro_icon" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/profile/minipro_icon.gif" alt="" /></a>
					{if user.badges}
						{for badge in user.badges}
							${badge.image_el}
						{/for}
					{/if}
					<br /><span class="review_date">${date}</span>
				</p>
				<div class="review_text"><p>${body}</p></div>

<form class="helpfulness_form">
						<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="review" />
						<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${review_id}" />
						<input type="hidden" name="is_helpful" value="" />
					<p>
						Was this helpful?
						${helpful_html}
					</p>
				</form>
				<p class="review_options">
					{if flagged}
						<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.unflag_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Un-Flag</a></span>
					{else}
						<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Flag</a></span>
					{/if}

{if owned_by_current_user}
							<span class="improve_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.edit_review_onclick(this, ${review_id})">
								<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Tweak This</a>
							</span>
							<span class="edit_img_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.inactivate_review_submit_onclick(this, '${review_id}')">
							<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Delete Review</a>
						</span>
					{/if}
				</p>
			{if message}<div class="review_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
			<div class="error_message"></div>
		</div>
		</div> 
		<div class="the_comments">
		{if comment.comment_count > 0}
			<div class="comment_summary" id=${comment.comment_count}>
				  <h4 class="thread_info">
					  <a href="#" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.toggle_comments_onclick(this, 'review', '${review_id}');return false;" class="comments_toggler">${comment.comment_count} {if comment.comment_count == 1} Comment {else} Comments {/if}</a> 
					  Last Comment: <span class="review_date">${comment.latest_comment_submit_dt}</span>  
					  by: <a class="user_profile_link"  href="${comment.profile_url}">${comment.latest_comment_user_display_name}</a>
				  </h4>
			 </div>
		{else}
			<div class="comment_summary" id=0></div>
		{/if}
			 <div class="threaded_comments_review"></div>
		{if comment.solicit_comment_display == 'normal'}
			<div class="inline_solicitation">
			  <div class="comment_container">
					<form class="provide_comment_form" name="comment_review" method="POST" enctype="multipart/form-data"  action="https://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/reviewcomment/TBK0058/${review_id}">
						<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${review_id}" />
						<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="review" />
						<div class="error_message"></div>
						<div class="textarea_container"> 
							<textarea class="comment_content" name="comment_content" onkeyup="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onkeyup(this.form)" onfocus="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.comment_content_onfocus(this.form)">Write your comment here...</textarea>
							<input type="hidden" name="comment_content_default" value="Write your comment here..." /> 
						</div> 
						<input type="image" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/buttons/comment_it.gif" alt="Submit Comment" class="answer_it_button" /> 
						<span class="comment_chars"></span>
					</form>
				</div> 
			</div>
			<div class="clearb"></div>
		{elseif comment.solicit_comment_display == 'collapsed'}
			<div id="comment_solicit" class="comment_solicit">
				<p><a href="http://www.backcountry.com/store/content_upload/reviewcomment/TBK0058/" rel="nofollow">Comment on ${user.display_name}'s review ></a></p>
			</div>
		{/if}
		</div> 
	{elseif display == 'flagged'}
		<div class="review_item">
			<div class="review_text">
				<p class="user_flagged_text">
					<span onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.view_flagged_review_onclick(this, '${review_id}')">
						<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">${flagged_description}</a>
					</span>	
				</p>
			</div>
			{if message}<div class="review_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
		</div>
	{/if}

{if display == 'normal'}
 		<div class="comment_info">
			<p>By: <a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}">${user.display_name}</a> 
				<a class="user_profile_link" href="${user.profile_url}"><img class="minipro_icon" src="http://content.backcountry.com/images/bcs/profile/minipro_icon.gif" alt="" /></a>
				{if user.badges}
					{for badge in user.badges}
						${badge.image_el}
					{/for}
				{/if}
				<br />
				<span class="comment_date">${date}</span>
			</p>
		</div>
		<div class="comment_content">
		<div class="comment_text"><p>${body}</p></div>
	
		<p class="comment_options">
			{if flagged}
				<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.unflag_comment_onclick(this,'${id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Un-Flag</a></span>
			{else}
				<span class="flag_link" onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.flag_comment_onclick(this, '${id}')"><a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">Flag</a></span>
			{/if}
			<div class="error_message"></div>
		</p>
		
		<form class="helpfulness_form">
			<input type="hidden" name="content_type" value="comment" />
			<input type="hidden" name="content_id" value="${id}" />
		   	<input type="hidden" name="is_helpful" value="" />
			<p>
           		Was this helpful?
	           	${helpful_html}
    	  	</p>
		</form>

</div>
		{if message}<div class="comment_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
	{elseif display == 'flagged'}
			<div class="comment_text">
				<p class="user_flagged_text">
					<span onclick="BCNTRY.wall.PDP.view_flagged_comment_onclick(this, '${id}')">
						<a href="#" onclick="return false;" rel="nofollow">${flagged_description}</a>
					</span>
				</p>
			</div>
			<div class="error_message"></div>
			{if message}<div class="comment_flagged confirmation">${message}</div>{/if}
	{/if}

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Tech Specs:

Material:: Ballistic nylon
Volume:: : [S] 743cu in, (12.2L); [M] 1474cu in, (24.2L); [L] 2149cu in, (35.2L); [XL] 3067cu in, (50.3L)
Laptop Pocket Dimensions:: [S] 8.5 x 11in; [M] Up to 15in; [L] Up to 17in; [XL] Holds any size laptop
Suspension:: 1 Courier strap
Access Types:: Top flap
External Pockets:: No
Recommended Use:: Biking, commuting, urban warfare, golfing, hacky-sacking, DJing, getting rad
Manufacturer Warranty:: Lifetime

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Timbuk2 333 Classic Messenger Bag - 2008

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Timbuk2 333 Classic Messenger Bag - 2008

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