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Stoic Luft Insulated Sweater - Men's

Stoic Luft Insulated Sweater - Men's

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Stoic Luft Insulated Sweater - Men's

Stash the Stoic Luft Insulated Sweater in your pack before you head out for the early morning ski tour—you’re going to thank yourself for remembering it at the top of the skin track. Stoic gave the Luft 100-grams of lightweight, synthetic Cirrus insulation so you won’t notice the weight in your pack or on your body while you ski or climb. The Luft’s 3-D ergonomic fit offers a layer-able fit that won’t restrict or inhibit motion.

  • Backcountry.com is the exclusive US distributor for Stoic products

Bottom Line: Lightweight puffy ready for any task.

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Would this jacket provide the same warmth as the Stoic Down Sweater?

Would this jacket provide the same warmth as the Stoic Down Sweater? Or less or more?

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November 10, 2009

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Less warmth. Down is the best pound for pound insulator you can buy and these jackets are roughly the same weight (.05lbs different - less than an ounce). On the bright side, this jacket will provide insulation when wet, down doesn't insulate at all when wet.

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November 10, 2009

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Rating for this product: 4

Stoic'd

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November 18, 2009

I was looking for a light mid-layer and was considering a Patagonia micro-puff and the Patagonia nano. I also wanted the full zip vs the nano and the micro-puff fit a bit more "bulky" than the athletic cut I wanted from a mid layer. I decided to give the Stoic a go and very happy. I've been a fan of the Goat gear and know the folks there put a lot of thought into their designs.Net-net: Love it, rec it. Will be back for more Stoic.I'm 5'10", 160 l-b's, the medium fits perfect, snug at the waist, sung collar, but not too tight, and easy to move the arms without the jacket crawling all up on me.

Pros:
-The jacket is even lighter than I expected and I knew the weight from the tech specs. It's like wearing a feather, looks dope.
-Love the stitching on the coat, keeps the insulation organized after I ball it up in my pack and also looks cool.
-The waist is snug and has a micro pull in the pockets that actually works and works well (I've got several other jackets that it feels like I'm just going to break the pull).
-Doesn't look like a garbage bag (though I'd love to see a color other than black)
-Seems very durable but haven't really worn it enough yet. Will update here as the season progresses.
-Have only had it in the rain when outside walking the dogs. Dried out very quickly when I got it back home adn didn't lose heat when mildly wet.

Tweaks (wouldn't call em cons, all minor):
-I like the inner cuffs when I'm wearing it as an outer layer over a thin glove. However, when I put a shell on, the longer sleeves bulk up under my shell at my wrists and make a glove with a gusset a little harder. I'd probably prefer just the snug wrist cuff, but that's me.
-The outer pocket zips are a little small. Would like to see a bulkier zipper there. When I have a big glove on, a little tuff to grab and feel a little flimsy.
-Would love to see an extra layer of material stiched onto the topside of the zipper wind flap (patagonia always does this on their thin walled shells). Keeps the zipper from grabbing on the fabric with a one handed zip and also keeps the flap from wearing over time.
-The pictures above show a red/orange liner. The jacket is all black in and out with red zips (probably just a design vs production adjustment). Functionally, all the same, just a cosmetic difference.
-Rather than a thread through earphone cord router, would like to see the Velcro fold over (Narona sheels have these). Makes in and out a lot easier...no thread the needle.

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Would I be correct in assuming that Stoic brand products have

Would I be correct in assuming that Stoic brand products have the same fit as backcountry.com's stoic line considering the origin? I own a medium in a BC stoic 2.0 shell + it fits great.
Also, would anyone care to comment on the either the "trashbag" look/lack there of of this material or how the insulation stacks up against PrimaLoft (specifically Mtn Hardware's compressor PL)? thanks

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November 5, 2009

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sizing - yes similar sizing to the stoic shell, although this layer is a little more snug to fit under jackets. if you want to fit over a jacket, after topping out on a backcountry climb, go up a size.

By: Backcountry.com Employee
November 5, 2009

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the shell is a 15d nylon taffeta. the slight sheen comes from a calendaring process making it more wind resistant, and down proof for our other jackets, but not soft next to skin. the synthetic insulation is an optimum synthetic insulation, using recycled polyester that is processed into a microfiber. great insulation, great compressibility.

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November 5, 2009

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Rating for this product: 4

rockin' with a few minor shortcomings

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November 17, 2009

I was on the fence between a Mtn Hardware compressor PL + the new Stoic Luft, so I checked them both out.

They are both about the same light weight, similar synthetic insulation materials, low-loft, highly compressible, highly wind resistant, exterior water-repelling finish, packable into own pocket (Mtn Hardware zips closed, however, but packs slightly larger) + athletic fit.

I found the Compressor "shell" to be about as durable feeling as tissue paper + in the "Grill" color is as shiny as a black Hefty trash bag (seriously). The Compressor does have velcro cuffs + a collar that can be tightened, but those are about the only advantages (possibly slightly warmer).

The Luft sweater exterior DWR finish is much more of a matte, with no more sheen than can be expected from a Nylon product. It also seems more durable - not thornproof, but reasonably durable. The zippers seem a bit filmsy, but get the job done. The interesting stitching serves the jacket well by keeping its "guts" from moving about + the shell from billowing out. One huge advantage is the Luft has internal elastic cuffs - basically powder skirts for your wrists that stay hidden making a jacket-glove- jacket scenario when suited out.

I am a 5'11" 165 athletic guy + the medium fits great and compacts to the size of a liter nalgene bottle... with no internal zipper to zip it closed.

Bottom line, the Luft is a warm, lightweight, athletic fitting powerhouse that keeps pace with the Mtn Hardware Compressor PL, if not surpasses it.

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Tech Specs:

Material:
[Shell] 15D Nylon taffeta 
Insulation:
100g Cirrus synthetic insulation 
Fit:
3-D Ergonomic construction 
Hood:
No 
Pockets:
2 Hand, 1 chest 
Core Venting:
No 
Weight:
0.95lbs (431g) 
Recommended Use:
Layering, cold weather wear 
Manufacturer Warranty:
Lifetime 

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