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Ruffwear Palisades Pack II - 2007

Ruffwear Palisades Pack II - 2007

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Ruffwear Palisades Pack II - 2007

The totally redesigned Palisades Pack II offers a complete component system making it the paws down favorite for backcountry excursions. An internal compression strap system keeps loads high and tight for snag free navigation and an improved center of gravity adds to a dog's overall mobility. The spiderweb chassis harness addresses load distribution, fitting and comfort so your pooch will never whimper about back pain. The harness also features a relocated assistance handle to improve balance when you have to help him over those boulders. Elliptically-shaped saddlebags made of 1680-Denier ballistic nylon create a durable, low profile gear-carrying pack. Two side-release Delrin buckles connect the pack and harness, allowing the chassis and saddlebags to easily separate for fitting, water crossings and rest stops. Pockets placed in strategic locations accommodate leads, treats, pick-up bags, and other accessories. The Palisades Pack II comes with two hydration bladders, one carried in each side of the pack that not only carry water but cushion the dog from gear and food within the pack, aid in keeping the dog cool, and can be used to balance the load from side to side.

Bottom Line: The redesigned Palisades Pack II is feature-filled expedition weight dog pack for experienced backcountry hounds.

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Rating for this product: 4

Liked it

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May 23, 2009

Over all I love the Palisades II. I have a lean boxer cross so I had to restitch all of the chest straps to get it to fit appropriately. I'm not too enthusiastic about the water bladders. After some abuse one of them has started to leak a little and its hard to fill them evenly and empty them evenly since you can't see through the plastic or pull them out easily when they have water in them. Two other modifications that are easy that I did were to add a string between the front belly cinch and the flank cinch, the back one, to pul the flank cinch forward, since it seemed that this strap was hanging out dangerously close to my dogs nether regions and was causing some chafing problems especially when crusted in snow and ice. The other thing I altered was that I put a strap under the two bags connecting them together so that they wouldn't flop around as he went galloping down hill. Seems to have done the trick and both me and the beast are much happier with the results.

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Rating for this product: 4

Quality construction, but bigger than it looks

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November 3, 2008

My wife had bought a cheap no-name backpack for our 60-lb. Yellow Lab to wear during a recent weekend of hiking. The dog didn't mind the pack at all, and almost seemed proud to wear it. So I decided to splurge and buy her a top-notch backpack.

I found the Palisades II backpack here on BackCountry, and the price and reviews were both very good so I measured our dog and bought it. I also bought the Palisades pack, because I couldn't decide which one to get. The Palisades II pack is actually an older version than the Palisades pack, which is confusing (you would think the "II" indicated a newer version, but apparently not). So here is my comparison review.

Material - The Palisades II has a much sturdier, thicker feel to the material than the Palisades pack does. It just feels like it could better withstand the rigors a dog might put it through.

Harness - The Palisades pack has a somewhat better harness. It has a sturdy metal D-ring, with better padding on the straps. One thing I didn't like about either pack is that the clips to which you secure the backpack are located between the harness and the backpack. This means a heavy pack will push those clips into your dog's back, and even with the harness material there to cushion it a bit it seems like a design flaw. It also makes the pack more difficult to attach and remove from the harness. I think they should have put the clips along the outside edge of the harness.

Storage - The Palisades II has much more storage space, but the trade-off is that it hangs lower to the ground. So if your dog is short or you're concerned about the bag dragging on rocks or logs as the dog is walking, this is something to consider. The Palisades II does have a nice little pocket on top, which is perfect for stashing poop bags or anything you need quick access to. Why they removed this feature on the Palisades pack is beyond me. The Palisades pack does have a wide rubber strip running down the center that is sewn to the pack every few inches, creating little "tubes" you can use to stash poop bags I suppose, but an enclosed pocket is far better in my opinion.

Water Bladder - No contest here: the Palisades has a much better water bladder system. It's very similar to the Camelbak bladder, if you're familiar with those. The Palisades II has a mylar bag serving as its water bladder. If you don't intend to use the water bladder anyway, then it's not going to be a deciding factor.

We ultimately returned the Palisades II pack and kept the Palisades pack instead. The Palisades II turned out to be too big and hang too low for our dog, even though the harness fit her just right. The Palisades fit her better, and even though I didn't like the material as much as the Palisades II, the Palisades was our overall choice between the two. That said, either bag would serve you very well, as they are both extremely well made. Enjoy!

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Argo in Hells Canyon

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July 23, 2009

She's an incredible dog, not saying all could do this, but she had 6 liters of water each day for herself and the other two dogs, packs carried the load well, handled burn areas, water crossings, snow and Sun with ease.

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Which model is better or current Palisades or Palisades II? Ruffwear's

Which model is better or current Palisades or Palisades II? Ruffwear's website does not even list the Palisades II as a product. I am a bit confused.

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June 5, 2009

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Rating for this product: 4

A good pack with a few flaws

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May 23, 2009

This is our third Palisades II pack for our Lab. So far this is one of the better dog packs on the market but there are a few flaws that I believe have been addressed in the newer model (not sold here).

The outer pocket zippers are open to brush, rock or whatever you dog and the trail throws at them so they will eventually break down and shred up if you're doing any serious hiking. The water bladders and a nice touch but we never have used them as they are the flimsy foil bag variety; I've been afraid of puncture and the spouts on them are a little picky.

The final improvement that could be made to this pack is the fabric used. A cordura would be a better choice along the bottom of the panniers as it is more abrasion resistant than ballistics nylon. After about a year you will see wear to the bottom of the pannier (and yes we do choose the correct sizing for our dog) if you do alot of hiking in areas with boulders for your dog to navigate through. (typical West Coast Canada Hiking.)

All and all though, this is one of the best dog packs we own. I thought I was getting the newer design this time around via Steep & Cheap but was disappointed to find out that was to good to be true. I'm planing on making a few of my own modifications before this pack hits the trail.

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Write your question here... I have a 96 pound Golden (Hank).

Write your question here... I have a 96 pound Golden (Hank). He measures 36" in Girth and 26" in Length. From the other reviews it sounds like a medium Palisades Pack II might be large enough. Altough the Ruff Wear Chart indicates that a large may be in order.
Can anyone give me some feedback on fit for Hank. I am planning on some Weekend Backpacking trips as well as long Day Hikes. Thanks for the assistance. Ken

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May 19, 2009

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Our weimaraner is around 87 pounds, 32.5" in girth and 29" in length. He has this in a medium and it is perfect. There is also enough extra webbing on the straps that I would think a medium would work for Hank as well. When I looked at the large in the store, it looked huge. Our guy loves wearing it on hikes!

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May 19, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

Working so far

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January 26, 2009

Abbie has only had the pack for a couple weeks, so haven't gone on any hiking trips yet to fully utilize it's packing ability. But she has been running around in the snow with it on just to get a feel for it. Started letting her run without any weight in it and the saddle packs tended to flip up and over to the other side, causing the whole pack to shift to one side of the body. The packs are not connected to the harness along the bottom, so it would certainly do this without any weight in them. Added some weight to each side and has been working great since.
As other reviewers have noted, these packs do run larger then advertised. Measurements show my dog to go with a large, but heeded the advice from others and purchased a medium. Pack fits wonderfully so far.
Pack appears to be rugged and durable with solid stitching. The water bladders seem to be a bit flimsy but haven't had a chance to use them yet. Definitely recommend this pack for your pup.

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Cassady in Hells Canyon

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July 23, 2009

Dogs wore the pack for 4 days, over 40 miles, excellent gear item, must have if backpacking with hounds.

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Rating for this product: 5

Great pack

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July 11, 2007

This is a really great pack. My dog has only taken it on one hike so far, but it worked really well. The water bladders allow you to balance the pack really well. Be careful not to put too much water in the bladders....it gets really heavy. Being able to remove the pack from the harness is a definite plus. I was able to take all of the weight off my dog and still use the harness (with lifting handle) to lift him over boulders on the summit. The compression straps don't work all that well...but that is a very minor complaint. All and all, I couldn't be happier with this pack.

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How do you fill the Palisades Pack II water bladder? Does the

How do you fill the Palisades Pack II water bladder? Does the top detach or is it filled through the small hole opening?

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April 18, 2009

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There are 2 mylar bladders that are folded up. They "slide" into 2 zippered pockets on each side. The problem I have faced is that the opening is very small. So, what I do is first put the bladders into the pockets, then open up the rubber cap. I fill it slowly, allowing it time to expand and fill the pocket. The caps do not screw/unscrew, but are popped on and off. There is a lever on the cap that allows you to dispense the water. Hope that helps!

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April 23, 2009

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Rating for this product: 4

recommended for the sale price

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April 23, 2009

Just got the pack, and I am very impressed with the build quality and thoughtful design. I had an ollydog pack before and it chaffed, built up a lot of static, and fit a bit funny. This pack fits great. The ability to remove the heavy parts from the actual harness helps a lot. If the bladders are not well balanced, it does seem like my dog has a tough time with it. One complaint so far is that the pack is much, much too heavy if it is completely filled. Currently, I only have it filled to about 1/5 of its capacity. My dog definitly tires quickly with it on.

Oh yeah, I bought a medium pack for my 85lb rottweiler.

Some cons, I suppose the weight is one, the difficulty in filling the water bladders is another, and the size of the packs is the last one. Overall, a nice product for the sale price. Great deal.

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Abs after her trial run.

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January 16, 2009

Abbie coming in from her first use of the Palisades II.

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Rating for this product: 4

Impressive Pack

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April 29, 2009

Right out of the box, the thing that struck me was the design and the sturdiness of the pack. It is well designed and has an ergnomic fit on our pup. He has more mobility in it than with other harnesses we have tried. Love the soft sleeves on the straps under the belly. The bags were however a little bigger than expected, that is not necessarily a bad thing. Overall the bags were a great buy and a great fit for our dog.

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Can this be used as a harness as well? Say you need to grab your

Can this be used as a harness as well? Say you need to grab your dog and pull him out of a river or up onto a truck etc...

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April 2, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

Great Pack, Great Harness!

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January 2, 2009

The best feature about this pack is that it is detachable from the harness, and the harness is tops! We have a 60 lb lab/basset mix (looks just like a lab, but legs are half the length) and she wears a small. The pack itself is a little bulky, but the internal compression straps help slim down the profile. The pack holds a lot (food, treats, wallets, keys, toys, etc.) and the hydration packs are decent as well, although we use them more as weight to exercise her, than we do to store water for her to drink. The pack and harness have held up fantastically after over a year of RUFF use. We use the harness daily, and the pack at least once per week in a variety of conditions/terrains and are very satisfied. Jaeger loves it too! (She seems so proud when she wears it.)

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Rating for this product: 5

So far impressed with our new backpack

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April 21, 2009

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Misha is getting used to her new backpack from Backcountry.com. Seems to be a well consturcted pack and fits her very well, we went with a medium. Does not appear to restrict her movement in the least although it took her just about 20 minutes to get used to it being there. This thing will hold more then she could carry, it's HUGE! Seems like it will wear well too as she rubs up against rocks and trees until she learns how wide she really is now, it funny watching her go around the house because she forgets the pack is there and gets stuck in the doorway. My only concern is how far back is sits in her mid back section, she has a 31 girth and about 23 length, the medium does seem to run just a touch too big in that the pack slides down her back even after adjustment. Seems pretty sturdy side to side though as long as you keep the pouches balanced. Overall great purchase and Backcountry.com shipped this thing out Free to me in about 5 days (excellent retailer).

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My Lab has a 34 inch girth and is 27 inches base of neck to tail.

My Lab has a 34 inch girth and is 27 inches base of neck to tail. should I get him the medium or the large pack?

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February 26, 2009

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In my opinion Ruffwear sizes tend to run a little big. My largest dog is 60 lbs with 22.5 inches from base of neck to tail and 28 inches in girth. I got the small expecting the pack to run big and it fits snugly, she could wear a medium but the small is fine. I would say a medium pack is probably most adequate for you lab though cannot be exactly sure. If not, backcountry has a dynamite return policy. Either way your dog will love this pack

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March 30, 2009

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Rating for this product: 5

Great design...the dogs love 'em

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April 1, 2009

I picked up 2 packs for my husky/border collie and boxer/lab off SAC a few months back. They get so stoked when I take them down from the gear wall, knowing an adventure is imminent. The boxer mix is about 50 lbs. and the small is the right size, the husky mix is 60 lbs. and has a deep chest and could probably move up to a medium but the small is adequate with an inch or two left in the straps. Hydration bags are excellent, though it hasn't been to warm yet I'm sure this design feature will help regulate their body temperature, I fill a liter on each side, sometimes a bit more. I have packed about 20 lbs. (food, water and bowls) in them and the weight carries nicely. The ability to detach the saddle bags is great for taking breaks or going swimming. The design seems very robust and I have had no problems so far. Though, initially the hydration bag caps were very tough to remove though this has changed with several uses. If your dog loves the trails, they'll love this pack and so will you. I have even tied my sleeping pad on top of the husky/collie's pack and it worked on great. Awesome gear!

Were recently used by noth my dogs on a 40 mile backpacking trip in the Seven Devils Mnts in Hells Canyon, Idaho. Both were lightly loaded (say 10 - 15 lbs) with food and other things and the dogs were able to take on anything we encountered. Scree, boulders, up and down these stayed on and stayed tight, cause you can cinch them with the straps in the outer pocket. Handle was extremely helpful when crossing trees that had fallen at a downward angle across the trail. Last night there, July 13, had an inch of snow and ice and these helped to keep the dogs warm and dry while we hiked out.

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Rating for this product: 5

Great Pack!

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February 24, 2009

First off, Backcountry is a great company to deal with. I returned a pack that did not work well for my dog and the exchange process was very smooth. They went above & beyond in their customer service!
This pack works great for my dog. I have a 63 lb Rottie/Shepard mix & the medium fits her perfectly. She is built like a rottie, with the thick chest and she narrows down by her hind legs. I use dog packs for her as a 'working' tool and to carry her water when we walk trails. They Y straps make for a comfortable & ergonomical fit. I really like that the pack detaches from the harness. The pack is made of durable, quality material. We haven't gone on any long distance walks with this new pack, so we have yet to utilize the water packs; however, I must say I certainly like the idea that there won't be any water bottles slapping against her side, as with her last pack.
I believe this is a great pack for the price!

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Rating for this product: 3

Beware of Size

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December 17, 2008

I got this Pack about 6 months ago and my dog and I use it often... I do however have 2 complaints 1) the Medium is to large for him and he is a 55 lb pitt bull mix. The other problem is that it is hard to evenly distribute weight in the pack on the dog. I have taken the pack into a taylor and had it better fitted for my dog however it now rubs his inner front legs to the point that they are raw. It has been a most helpful tool for Hiking with the dog, Just be aware of the sizing.

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Senja with pack

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March 8, 2009

this is a nice tool for a high energy dog, it's not often Senja is lying down for a mid-hike rest.

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Rating for this product: 4

the dog digs it

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March 10, 2009

Unless packed with some substantial weight, this pack will flop, bounce and shift constantly with an active dog. My german short haired pointer fits the small pack perfectly. The built in water bladders are helpful when adding weight , and work nicely as padding against the dogs sides. A smart pack for sharing the work on the disc golf course, my pointer carries all the discs and drinks. The harness detaches from the packs which I really like. I can take the packs off and have a (low budget) pull harness. The dog thinks it's pretty slick. She likes being put to work.

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Rating for this product: 5

Dog doesn't mind

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March 31, 2009

No problems. My lab can carry her own load! She doesn't mind wearing it and it's easy to take the pack off when it's not needed.

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Trying it on

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April 29, 2009

Fitting the pack on Gawain at the house before taking him out walking with it.

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Rating for this product: 4

Dog Iikes it so far

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April 20, 2009

Got this awhile ago cuz i was getting tired of carry my dogs gear. It fits good on her, and hasn't done a chaffing to her yet. Took her awhile to get used to the width, she still gets scared when she brushes up against a tree and the bag makes the scrapping sound

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Rating for this product: 4

Every dog should have one

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March 25, 2009

Yes, as everyone says: size your dog! This is a great product. I needed a bigger dog pack for my American bulldog/lab mix, Jackson. (75 lb dog, size M) His food bulk alone wouldn't go in a smaller pack, but this handled the load with no problem. I'm not a big fan of the water bladders that this pack uses, but we were able to balance the load by shuffling gear and food no problem. Maybe we can buy different bladders later. There was a little armpit irritation but that was probably owner fault, not a defect of the product. The harness really helped lift the dog over tree fall obstacles, and served as secure/humane way to hold the dog when he got over excited.

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Rating for this product: 5

Great Big Dog pack

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March 30, 2009

First of all, the other reviewers are right- this thing is HUGE. I have a 100lb mastiff/bloodhound mix, and if she was done growing might have considered returning the large for a medium. I would think the medium would be fine for any lab or similarly sized dog.

That said, the pack itself is really nice and well made, the cinch-down straps help keep the load compact and the handle on top is good for helping out in deep snow. The bladders do look a little wimpy, but I just plan to use them for campsite water storage, not to supply a trip across the desert, and they look great for my purposes.

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Rating for this product: 4

Sizing

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March 19, 2009

Again like others have said, be careful with the sizing, you may need to size down. However, our dog is still growing so we kept the size large so he can grown into it. My dog likes to carry the bag and seems to really enjoy carrying it on hikes or on walks. I like it for walks to weigh him down so he uses a little more energy to calm him down.

One negative is that the pack hangs low ,so when going over uneven terrain the bag can get hung up.

I am not sure I would have paid the full price for this pack, but since I got it on SAC I feel I got a great deal.

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Paisley River Crossing

By: Backcountry.com Employee
January 9, 2009

Here's my 35lb dog wearing the size small. It's a little loose on her, so it sits a bit back on her back.

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Rating for this product: 4

Great Pack

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September 16, 2008

We absolutely love this pack, only it runs a little larger than we expected. We have two large dogs, a Great Dane mix and a Mastiff Mix, but the Large was just a big big for both dogs. it's not too much of a problem as long as we keep the pack balanced.

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Rating for this product: 4

Mostly great

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September 8, 2008

The bags are great and have plenty of room for anything you want (need) to have your dog haul. The water bladders need some work, they're not the best for long time use . . . i.e. more than a week. They eventually degrade and start to leak.

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Rating for this product: 5

Sweet pack

By: Backcountry.com Employee
December 28, 2007

This doesn't compare to any other pack. It's top notch!
I trained both of my Aussies load carrying with a cheap Kelty pack. After the first desert trip the pack broke and left me carrying everything.

This pack is perfect for the Utah desert. The internal water bladders are ideal for long hot sandy trudges. You'll never have to worry about your dogs finding the next water hole.

The material is very, very strong and there's enough room for 6 beers on each side. Perfect!

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Rating for this product: 3

Useful Pooch

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January 9, 2009

We got this for my dog when she was pretty young, had absolutely no problem getting her to wear it, and enjoy wearing it. We got a size Small for our dog, and she's about 35lbs. It's all the way cranked down on the straps, but it's still a bit big on her. Make sure you evenly pack both sides of the backpack or it'll slip sideways and whatnot.
Even though it slips sometimes, Paisley loves wearing it, she marches down the trail with a sense of purpose instead of just tearing all over the place. Overall, a good buy indeed!

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Rating for this product: 5

Great Pack

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February 23, 2009

I've taken my 50 lb. Portuguese Water Dog snowshoeing with the pack, as well as a couple of long walks through the city. I love how the pack can detach from the harness, it makes break time more enjoyable for my dog. The built in water bladders are pretty cool too. No complaints. He has the small pack and it fits him very well. Make sure you measure well, and when in doubt, remember Backcountry has a bulletproof return policy.

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Tech Specs:

Material:
1680 Denier Ballistic Nylon 
Volume:
[S] 786cu in, [M] 1120cu in, [L] 1430cu in; Hydration Pack volumes (recommended/max.) are [S] 1 / 1.5 gal, [M] 1.5 / 2.2 gal, [L] 2 / 4.1 gal 
Fit Range Weight:
15-120lb 
Fit Range Girth:
18in-48in (see sizing chart for details) 
Removable Packs:
Yes, 2 elliptical saddlebags 
Recommended Use:
Extended backcountry excursions 
Warranty:
Lifetime for manufacturer defect 
Country of Origin:
Vietnam 

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