The jacket is ok. It is a decent coat.....for around town use. But if you are in the wild and need this much jacket, then you need the hooded version. The hood makes a huge difference in warmth. Also it has Conduit so it can withstand wet snow and sleet better.so this is a better choice around town. but for being outdoors, you want the one with the hood.

And if you do not need this much warmth get a lighter 800 fill down sweater.

Ditto what MBison said.I have researched many 650 fill jackets and tried the MH Sub Z and sent it back!Three reasons
1. Fits short on lower back
2. Leaks down feathers like a sieve.
3. General craftmanship poor- if you pull the sleeve inside out you will see the exposed cut of the fabric ( marmot is folded,sewed and tucked in)
I own many things from MH but this jacket does not come close to the Marmot Guides Down Sweater (650 fill).
Backcountry is great with the return procedures!
I returned it and bought a Marmot Guide Down Sweater (650 fill).
It has leaked 1 or 2 down filaments (not down feathers like the MH Z), fits longer in the back and is bomber made!
Marmot is known for their high quality down standards.
I am 5'11, 185-189 lbs. and orderd a large in the Marmot.
The Deep Blue Color is awesome!
Hope this helps!

http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Marmot-Guides-Down-Sweater-Mens/MAR0665M.html

Great jacket, XL fit's perfectly (I'm 5'11, 195 lbs) ! It's a warm one for sure and looks great. Mountain Hardwear is great stuff. Backcountry always has the hard to find gear I want.

So I purchased this jacket with high hopes that it would fulfill the trusted and true Mountain Hardwear standard and this jacket has set the precedent on how 650 fill down jackets should be made. Toasty warm, moderate weight, stout and durable craftsmanship. Wore only a cotton short sleeve t-shirt under this jacket in 20 degree, 20 mph winds for 5 hours and was completely comfortable with no cold spots observed. This jacket can take temperatures much lower if layered correctly. My estimate is -20 deg. at the very lowest. Mountain Hardwear makes quality clothes / jackets /
pants / tents / etc. to stand up to the toughest Mother Nature can afford us. This jacket is dur-a-ble as well. Tough sewn in panels protect the high wear spots from abrasive materials rubbing away at the fabric which if not there would shorten this jackets life considerably. I can see this being my go-to jacket in freezing temps and should last me 4 winter seasons at a minimum. Bombproof and coldproof. Great product MHW, thank you.

that keeps you real warm. The decision between the Mountain Hardware Sub Zero Jacket and the similiar but higher priced North Face was difficult at first. However, after speaking to the representatives at Backcountry and my own research led me to the Sub Zero. I love this jacket. It keeps me toasty warm, is very light weight, extremely comfortable and was a much better value than the North Face. It is also less "bubbly" than the North Face which was a plus. The customer service as well as the price and shipping on this product gives Backcountry a 4 star rating. This is a great jacket that I would highly recommend to anyone.

I think this is a good jacket for daily wear in average winter days. When I first got it, I thought it was a little short, but I resist the urge to return it. I am glad I made the right decision. I now realize that it is just how the style of this type of jacket is; it hangs just below the waist. I am 5 ft 8 inch tall, 165 lbs and the medium is a perfect fit.

The materials used for this jacket is high quality, but the workmanship is just average. I can see thread hanging on too many spots around the jacket, I ended up spending 10 - 15 minutes to cut them all.

The most annoying issue for me is that excessive down leaking occur all the time. Everyday I lose a few feathers here or there. I own the North Face nuptse jacket and the North Face thunder jacket, feather is housed quite well in the nuptse jacket, but the thunder jacket do shed some down; still not as severe as this subzero jacket.

Overall, it is a good, warm jacket for the price, but I still have to say the quality is a grade below the North Face nuptse jacket for sure. Oh, it also wrinkles easier, so hang it in a spacious closet. For the price I got this jacket for, I cannot complain too much. I would give this jacket 5 stars if the workmanship is better and goose feather is not shed.

First off, I'm 5'7", 145lb, 30" waist, and the small fits nicely. I usually wear medium jackets, but I wanted a down layering piece that fit a more tightly. It's trim, but there's still plenty of space to move. This jacket feels very lightweight, but it is insanely warm. I can sit in 35 degree weather not moving and I'll get hot. I can't imagine using this skiing unless it was sub-zero, but for non-aerobic activities when it's cold, this thing is great to have. It also packs down fairly small---maybe to the size of a larger-diameter Nalgene bottle.

To be honest I was torn between the SubZero Mountain Hardwear and the North Face Nuptse. I am glad I decided on the Mountain Hardwear, it is a quality jacket and seems to be very warm but I have not yet worn it in extreme cold. I am 5'9", 195 pounds, large shoulders and back and the XL fits me perfect. My normal size in almost any jacket or coat is an XL and this fits to size. Another benefit is that it packs nicely in the supplied pouch.Highly recommend this jacket!

Like all Mtn Hardwear gear, this is a kick a** coat. Super warm, well made, and not to mention - looks cool, and lets not act like that's no matter! She still is springing a feather or 2 here and there, but I have only had it for 3 weeks, and that's what real down coats do. Usually wear a large, but the medium fits me real well (I wear a men's size 42 jacket)

nice fit,good construction.warm,and comfortable(all i care about).feels more substantial than the tnf nuptse,but i still prefer the nuptse.this jacket wont disappoint you.
the fit is nice,though some complain about the long arms and short waist.
im 6' 195,and the xl is perfect(i have broad shoulders/longer arms).
remember,i'm writing a review not a composition paper so dont kill me for the punctuation and the grammatical errors.hahaaa.
i like the nuptse better only for the fit around the collar-thats more comfy than this collar,but the rest of this jacket is more comfortable than the nuptse.great puffy to add to your collection.

great jacket for a great price. wear it often for cold days on the hill with nothing but a t-shirt underneath. worn it for over two years and no signs of stress.

I normally wear a large (6' 210lb) and based on comments below, I ordered an XL. TOO BIG. It is a little short in the waist, but I think that is the style rather than a fault. I am returning the XL for a L!!

I bought this for my husband and he looks very hot in it! He is 6 ft, 230 lbs (not fat, just muscular & broad shoulders)and XL fits well, which is his usual size. He says it's extremely warm. It could be a little trimmer around the waist, but I guess most XL guys are XL all over, not just in the shoulders. Great overall!

I bought this jacket to wear skiing but also use it on days when a normal ski jacket just doesn't cut it in the wind and cold. This jacket is super warm and is for the most part impervious to any wind trying to get through the seams/zipper. The only problem I have with the jacket is the collar and lower back are a little short especially on long lift rides. As long as you layer correctly and aren't too long in the torso this jacket is awesome. A great first down jacket who doesn't want to spend a small fortune for something that isn't being abused.

I bought this after a back injury caused spasms which got worse when the winter weather hit. I bought this and the Dome Pignon beanie. I dont think I could have made a better choice!!! I would buy it again when and if this ones wears out. I love the cocobolo color option - not your average color!

I recently purchased a large version of this coat. I am 6'2" 170 lbs.

This coat doesn't reach my belt line when standing up straight (It comes down to about 1" above my belt line). Because of this it's very drafty, and well...it simply doesn't fit.

The arm length of this coat in a Large exceeds my reach so upgrading to an XL would probably leave me swimming in it.

Long arm length, short torso length. Be careful about buying this coat. You should be under 6' tall if you're thinking about a Large by my estimates.

I've owned 2 north face down jackets before this one. The fleece pockets sold me. I wear this jacket everywhere. Get one. You'll love it.

Holy Moley this jacket is warm, at one point I broke out into a sweat. Wow. I absolutely love it.
I'm not sure how it fits on men, but for a women, it is Ideal. I'm 5'7" and weight in at a buck 25.

We are in Yellowstone N.P. where we drop to -20F to -30F pretty regularly in the winter. This jacket is great at beating the cold.

It's very light and compact, perfect for camp but also something you'd carry on the climb. This saved my bacon at 13,000' last fall when we took the wrong way down...

I was given this coat as a gift at work (outdoor work) and it has been a great way to stay warm in any weather. It has faced four Utah winters. Lots of -20 (colder with wind) weather this winter in the Uintah Basin of Utah and never once even mildly cold. The only cold thing about this coat is anything it doesn't cover (legs, heads, etc.).
It holds up to abrasion and dry snow as well.
I even got battery acid on the sleeve and it didn't melt too bad!

I bought this jacket in San Diego prepairing for travel to Afghanistan and untill I got hear I was using it for a pillow. Now that it's cold I use it every day and it fits the climate.I'm at 3500 ft in south west Afghanistan with USMC and i get a lot of compliments about jacket, mostly someone want's to buy it. It's the best buy i've made in a long time.

just got and whew this jacket is very warm.ive owned the north face nuptse and the sub zero by far is wayyy warmer.love the shoulder panels and the fit is very nice and it looks very good also.im 5 9 200 lbs n got the xl cause i love to wear hoodies under stuff. im wearin it right now as im writing this and its 35 wth a 20 mile an hour wind so yea id say this jacket is very warm.

This jacket is WARM! And it packs down smaller than a loaf of bread in the included stuff sack. Truly exceptional function for the money and Mountain Hardware once again delivers.

Really nice jacket.

Fit: I'm 175 lbs, 6'1" and the fit is perfect.

Warmth: It seems plenty warm but I wont really know till the winter. I recently spent a few nights at about 4000' so it was pretty chilly (40s) and this jacket kept me plenty warm with only a t-shirt on underneath. I was a bit sunburned and exhausted (thus unable to properly warm myself) and this jacket really made the difference between a lousy evening and a comfortable one.

Packability: It comes with a stuff sack - once packed into said sack its about as tall as a nalgene and about twice the diameter. With a compression sack im sure you could do better. It does not seem that the stuff sack is at all water shedding so that needs to be dealt with by the user.

Other stuff: The materials probably would shed light drizzle but would not likely hold up to a down pour. I know this jacket is not technically a down-sweater but I'm planning to use it as such and I think it will prove to be very versatile as both a standalone and a layer.

Not much to say, it does what it says on the tin, i.e. keeps you warm regardless. However, I'm 6'2", got the large and it was simply too small.

This is a great jacket, but beware the sizing. I'm 5'9" and 165#, and I normally wear a medium. I own three medium Mountain Hardwear jackets that fit fine, and I almost purchased a fourth in a large. But the medium in the Sub Zero was way too huge on me. There was simply too much room in the arms and the waist of the jacket, and I'm not talking about "room to layer." I could pull the bottom hem of the jacket a good 7 or 8 inches away from my body even with a fleece underneath, and frankly, this is really the type of jacket that you shouldn't need to wear a lot of layers with anyway. Can you cinch down the waist? Sure, but who wants to look like they've got a spare tire when they don't?

I've bumped down to a small which has yet to arrive. Hopefully that one will fit, because the jacket really does seem quite nice.

I was shocked at how light this jacket is. I have worn 3 or 4 times in 20 degree weather with only a t-shirt under and was plenty warm. Typical Mountain Hardware...awesome quality.

This coming Canadian winter will shy away from the power of the Sub Zero. I'm super excited about this jacket. I wore it the other night when it was hovering around the frost point, without anything underneath it...and was still toasty.

Only thing i'd say is the short torso may not appeal to some. It's just fine by me that's for sure. I look forward to belaying in cold weather with this jacket, as the shorter torso is the perfect length for not interfering with a harness!

This is the best down jacket in its class, hands down! I swear by Mountain Hardwear products, they have never disappointed me. I recently wore this jacket during the arctic blast that hit Montana in early December 2008--temps were -35 wind chill. Out of curiosity I went for a little walk to test the jacket out under these extreme conditions. To my astonishment my upper body was unharmed by the cold. Tough jacket.

Jacket is extremely warm. I thought fit was ok. Takes a little adjusting to the "puffiness" of it. I feel like George C. in the Puffy Coat for all you Seinfeld fans. The down tends to leak out too which doesn't bother me, but my wife doesn't like all the white feathers on the seat in her cars' black interior.

I am 5'10" and 165lbs and ordered the L, because I wanted to be able to wear as an outer layer over other things. As others have noticed, it is slightly short in the torso, but not too much and it stays down if the waist cords are tightened on my hips. Nicely constructed with tougher material on high-wear areas; more polished than my old TNF Nuptuse down jacket. Good value for the money. I also have the MH SubZero Parka (longer, so no problems with shortness but a bit too much except when it gets to -40C) and the MH Phantom Down Jacket (more fragile, but lighter and perfect to stuff in a pack when hiking/skiing).

This is definitely the warmest jacket I've ever owned. I'm 5'8" and 165lbs. Bought a Med. and it fits great. I love the fleece pockets and the extra large one inside. The only down side is the outer material. It does have reinforced shoulders but I snagged a sleeve and already got a small hole in it. Any recommendations on patching the thin material? Still one of my favorite jackets for keeping warm in the Alps.

I am 6'4" and wear an XL in mountain hardwear gear but I couldn't find a size in this that fit well. I realize that it is supposed to be shorter so it does not stick out under your shell, or so you can wear a harness but it was just too short. Ended up getting the BC luft for $50 so the story ends well. If this jacket fits you, lucky you.

I live in the "extreme" part of Spain where it is hot hot in the summer and feels much colder than it actually is in the winter. This thing does the trick where my layering of MHW fleece and windstopper was lacking. I haven't needed the combo yet, but my MHW microchill fits nicely underneath. As always for MHW the arms are plenty long. The torso is a bit short on me but it's not a problem. I am 6'1, 155 lbs and I wear a large in this and every other MHW jacket I have owned/tried. It's a bit roomy around the waist, but a little tug on the waist cords keeps the warmth in. It fits in the included stuff sack no problem.

I wear this jacket in any weather (I've worn it down to -20F) and been comfortable. Looking back, I should have gotten the hooded version, but I'm happy with this jacket.

Very comfortable, fits true to size, and has lots of pockets!

This jacket is so warm we live were it gets down to
-45 to -50 as long as I wear a sweatshirt underneath I still good to go. I would check the sizes though first I'm 6' 1'' and 145 pounds and got a large which is a good size for me.

Super jacket. Incredibly warm and it packs down really well in the provided stuff sack. I'm sure with a compression sack it could be squished down even more. It's definitely a great choice as a belay jacket and the ripstop nylon and burly arm patches are a nice addition to ward off pesky ice screws & ice tools that seem to like munch holes down jackets. The only drawback (and it's minor one) about his jacket is the lack of a hood. Overall, a really great jacket and priced very fairly for the quality and workmanship.

I'm on my third sub-zero...absolutely love the jacket. It's great for those really cold days.

This is a VERY warm jacket with good stitching and zippers. Know that this is a climber's design, so it's cut a bit short at the waist for all you fashion folks out there. As for the puffy look others are writing about, if it's 10 degrees out, do you care about how you look? This is the warmest outdoor jacket I've owned. A few feathers pop out now and then, but I've noticed that about every down outdoor product I've ever owned. The feathers should be all gone in about a hundred years or so. Excellent product from an excellent company.

This is a nice jacket for the price. It was 5 degrees F this morning and I was warm as could be. I'm very happy with all my MH gear.

The best 650 fill light weight jacket on the market. I am 6' and it is a good fit. Would like it about 2 in longer in the trunk. It is a great car or travel coat though.

I'm 6'3" and 190 lbs. I ordered a large. It seems to be a little short in the sleeves and overall length. Also, there is a good bit of room in the chest and stomach of the jacket; almost to much. Seems like there is less down in the lower back of the jacket. I don't know if it was manufactured that way or if the down has just escaped over time. However the jacket is extremely warm. I wore it on a camping trip with temperatures in the teens and wind gust of 20 mph. I stayed warm the entire time. Great jacket, but I have to give it 3 stars for the fit. If it was about an inch or two longer it would be perfect.

I have now owned this jacket for about 4 years and have been very happy with it. Aside from being a very warm jacket, its construction is high quality and there is good attention to detail with its features. I am particular pleased with the fleece lined pockets and collar, as well as the elastic bottom draw cord that are located inside the pockets (so you don't have to take your hands out). It also packs down to a small size for easy packing. As per other reviews, the length may be a tad short especially if it rides up, but keeping the draw cords tight will prevent this. In my opinion, this is a better alternative to the seemingly ubiquitous North Face Nuptse jacket

living in boston, this jacket arrived in time to keep me warm for the early winter and it is quite light and packable.

I'm 5'9", 155lbs and bought a medium. It is a little big in the chest and a bit short (but the drawstrings can keep the cold out). It's possible that if it was a little more form fitting it would be warmer, perhaps I should have bought a small. It seems rather durable- the fabric hasn't ripped even though it has been snagged on brush when moving through the woods. I was hoping it would be much warmer, but that's what the expensive jackets are for, right? The price is right as well. oh yeah- it's looks good too!

I am 6 feet 210 pounds and 44 inch chest. Got an xl and it fits perfect. Today was 40 degrees in the city and i was sweating in it.

I bought the black one for my 14 year old son and now his dad wants one too. It is warm, comfortable without being huge and puffy! It's not as puffy as it looks in the picture. It really looks good and works for so many activities. He even wears it to the ski slopes. Plenty of room to layer too. Mountain hardware is always a great buy! I love their womens stuff too.

I've owned my Mountain Hardwear Sub 0 for over a year now. This jacket will keep you warm for sure. On extremely cold days I couple this jacket with my Mountain Hardwear Monkey Man fleece and I am as toasty as when I'm sitting by the fire. These jackets are not designed to be waterproof so just throw your Gore-Tex shell on over it and enjoy the outdoors worry free. The included stuff sack makes the jacket compress nicely, but add a compression sack and you can make this jacket fit in even the smallest of daypacks. Try doing that with your run-of-the-mill parka and liner. If you want quality and warmth go with MH, don't let the pricetag scare you and don't pay the same or more for another brand just because of the name. They make quality apparel for outdoor enthusiasts. I wear this "puffer" all the time, whether it be up in the mountains or around town. The only reason I didn't give this 5 stars is that the sizes didn't fit me exactly how I wanted. I bought a small for my 5'8'' 155lb frame and it is a little short in the torso but not too much. The sleeves on the medium were just too long for me. This coat will keep you warm!

I don't think I have ever loved an article of clothing as much as I love this coat. I am 6'7" and have an XL that fits great. The fleece lined pockets are a really nice touch. I went for a quick spin on my motorcycle the other day, air temp was 24 and I was toasty warm. Sooo good.

Awesome jacket, came in a timely fashion to my home in far north canada. We are average -30 here and have put the jacket to the test several occasions already and it performs...and it packs very small with little weight

I've had this jacket for over a year now. It's great as far as it goes, and I have no complaints about the construction, design, etc.

However I really really regret not buying a down jacket with a hood. I was pretty cold wearing this jacket camping at 12000ft in the Sierra in CA in June (!), mostly because my head wasn't adequately covered. Don't make the same mistake I did --- buy a jacket with a hood! If you ask me, there's just not a lot of point buying a down jacket if you don't get one with a hood.

I have many jackets I my closet, but this is by far
one of the best. This jacket is very warm in the coldest of weather. Plenty if room for all your goodies and the pockets are lined with toasty fleece. A plus highly recomend. Put a crowbar in your wallet and buy one.

This jacket is not only super warm, it's super comfortable. I got it last year and it was perfect for those winter camping trips where you can't muster a fire. Defiantly the warmest jacket I've ever used. And don't worry about wear and tear. It comes with tough shoulders and after a year of use it hasn't lost any feathers and still looks brand new

Jacket is what you would expect from a nice down jacket. It keeps you warm and this particular one is a very good value. Would, and do, highly recommend the Sub Zero to anyone looking to get a kick arse down jacket at a reasonable price.

I actually got this for my boyfriend who thought he ruined his first one in the washer. When I showed up on his birthday with the new one he was wearing the old one and said it wasn't ruined after all so we exchanged the new one for compression pants. (By the way back country makes returns super simple and I appreciated that!:))He loves his old one though. He likes that all he needs to wear is a t-shirt under it and he's still warm outside in the colorado snow. Well worth the money if you asked me especially now that prices are lower being that its a slightly older model. Mountain Hardwear makes great stuff.

gOOD JACKET. VERY WARM. STOOD OUTSIDE WITH IT ALL DAY IN DECEMBER IN TENNNESSEE AT TRIPPLE CROWN BOULDER COMP (IT SNOWED A BIT BUT NOT MUCH). DIDNT WIN, DIDNT GET COLD. WORE BASE LAYER AND FLEEC BELOW IT. AND FITS GOOD, DOESNT MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE THE FAT KID AS DID A PREVIOUS DOWN JACKET I HAD.

This jacket is awesome and totally warm with one glaring exception- it is wayy too short. I'm 5'10" 175lbs. and this coat barely makes it past my waist. If I sit down or bend over slightly my lower back becomes completely exposed. This is quite annoying. How did nobody else found this as a problem?? I'm not even tall...

I got this jacket for my Dad on his birthday and he says he loves it. It's very warm, the Cocobolo is a good brown color, the fleece-lined hand pockets are nice, and the shoulder and elbow fabrics are durable. He says he's sure he will be warm when he has to go out and feed the horses first thing in the morning!