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For cold-weather mountaineering expeditions, make the Mountain Hardwear Sub Zero Down Jacket your toasty refuge for chilly belays and summit-ridge slogs. This 650-fill down jacket features Taslan reinforcements on the shoulders and arms for resisting harsh mountain abrasion. Two fleece handwarmer pockets keep blood flowing in your digits, and the Sub Zero compresses quickly for easy transport.
Bottom Line: Furnace-like warmth for sub-zero conditions.
Holy Moley this jacket is warm, at one point I broke out into a sweat. Wow. I absolutely love it. I'm not sure how it fits on men, but for a women, it is Ideal. I'm 5'7" and weight in at a buck 25.
First off, I'm 5'7", 145lb, 30" waist, and the small fits nicely. I usually wear medium jackets, but I wanted a down layering piece that fit a more tightly. It's trim, but there's still plenty of space to move. This jacket feels very lightweight, but it is insanely warm. I can sit in 35 degree weather not moving and I'll get hot. I can't imagine using this skiing unless it was sub-zero, but for non-aerobic activities when it's cold, this thing is great to have. It also packs down fairly small---maybe to the size of a larger-diameter Nalgene bottle.
Hmmm...if you need a layering piece consider, perhaps, the MHW LoDown, it has pit zips and sheds water better and is a tad lighter. I would think an XL shell would fit fine over the XL Sub Zero, keep in mind this jacket is super warm - a perfect companion for slower pace travel!!!
that keeps you real warm. The decision between the Mountain Hardware Sub Zero Jacket and the similiar but higher priced North Face was difficult at first. However, after speaking to the representatives at Backcountry and my own research led me to the Sub Zero. I love this jacket. It keeps me toasty warm, is very light weight, extremely comfortable and was a much better value than the North Face. It is also less "bubbly" than the North Face which was a plus. The customer service as well as the price and shipping on this product gives Backcountry a 4 star rating. This is a great jacket that I would highly recommend to anyone.
its primarily a warm layer jacket and though when you first buy it it may shed slight drizzle due to a nikwax type spray coating , it will soon rub / wash out . And if you've ever got anything down wet you'll know what its like to dry. It will also become less effective once dry
So I purchased this jacket with high hopes that it would fulfill the trusted and true Mountain Hardwear standard and this jacket has set the precedent on how 650 fill down jackets should be made. Toasty warm, moderate weight, stout and durable craftsmanship. Wore only a cotton short sleeve t-shirt under this jacket in 20 degree, 20 mph winds for 5 hours and was completely comfortable with no cold spots observed. This jacket can take temperatures much lower if layered correctly. My estimate is -20 deg. at the very lowest. Mountain Hardwear makes quality clothes / jackets / pants / tents / etc. to stand up to the toughest Mother Nature can afford us. This jacket is dur-a-ble as well. Tough sewn in panels protect the high wear spots from abrasive materials rubbing away at the fabric which if not there would shorten this jackets life considerably. I can see this being my go-to jacket in freezing temps and should last me 4 winter seasons at a minimum. Bombproof and coldproof. Great product MHW, thank you.
Can this fit under a softshell ? or is it a standalone.I'm looking for down jacket to fit under a softshell or bike rain jacket when i cycle in alaska in september/october.What do you recommend?thanks,
If you're looking for primarily an insulation layer, I would suggest a down sweater, like the Patagonia or Montbell. These are simple, no-frills jackets that dispense with bells and whistles and use very high quality down to make them extremely warm for their relative weight. I use a Patagonia Sweater in the backcountry and love its versatility. Furthermore, I think buying a full-fledged down jacket for cycling would be extreme overkill. Not only would you not be able to cycle any better than the Stay-Puft marshamallow man, but down jackets really aren't meant for highly aerobic activities.
great jacket for a great price. wear it often for cold days on the hill with nothing but a t-shirt underneath. worn it for over two years and no signs of stress.
OK, I've never had a down jacket before, but after a recent trip to Joshua Tree, I'd love to have some compressable warmth. My question is: how do the MH Sub Zero and MH Compressor (PrimaloftOne) compare for actual warmth? I'm sure the LoDown would be an option also. Uses would be backpacking/hiking and general wear. Thanks!
I have both the Sub Zero and the Compressor PL. If you want compressible warmth, it will absolutely be the Compressor. It packs down to fit inside 3/4 of a 1L Nalgene bottle, the Sub Zero when packed all the way down is 6"x9". If you do anything active at all besides stand around outside in the Sub Zero, you will literally sweat your balls off no matter how cold it is outside. The Sub is just sickening warm. The Compressor is also extremely warm for how light and thin it is. I would say with a lot of confidence that for it's weight, 15 oz, it is the warmest jacket of it's kind out there. Primaloft really is superior in warmth to Mountain Hardwear's synthetic insulation Thermic Micro. The material used with the Compressor is highly, highly wind resistant. Highly. The material used with the Sub Zero is very tough for a down jacket. Both will last you at least 3 years with significant wear. My Compressor has survived at thruhike of the AT and it's still in very good shape. Mountain Hardwear is just a great company.
Bottom Line: The Sub Zero will keep you HOT in Sub Zero weather. Truly. The Compressor will keep you WARM in sub 20's.
I have this jacket and I wear it in the winter as my main parka. It seems to do very well with temps below freezing. I typically need to put a base layer on (besides a tshirt) once it gets lower then 10 F. I have not owned the compressor but looking at it in the store I can't imagine it would be very warm. The insulation seems thin. Get the sub zero and add some nikwax to the shell to help shed the rain if it gets above freezing. I truly love my coat. Wear it all the time.
It's very light and compact, perfect for camp but also something you'd carry on the climb. This saved my bacon at 13,000' last fall when we took the wrong way down...
How does this jacket compare size-wise with the MH Phantom? Our local outdoor shop only has the Phantom in stock, but I want to mail-order this one. Just conerned about size differences. Thanks!
The Phantom and the Sub Zero are similar in fit. If you fit a medium in the Phantom Jacket then you will fit a medium in a Sub Zero Jacket.--------------I have to disagree. I had a L in the Phantom and it fit great, a tiny bit baggy so it won't ride up when I lift my arms, that kind of thing. Then I switched to the Sub Zero SL and the M is the same fit, maybe even a bit baggier. I'm 5'9", 145 pounds.
This jacket is so warm we live were it gets down to -45 to -50 as long as I wear a sweatshirt underneath I still good to go. I would check the sizes though first I'm 6' 1'' and 145 pounds and got a large which is a good size for me.
I'm looking at the MH Sub Zero and the Lodown, both of which seem to have the same fill amount and are water resistant, but a fairly big price difference. I've got a MH Escape shell (XL) and am looking for a warm layer to put underneath it. Are there any differences I don't know about to pick one other the other?
The MH Sub Zero will not shed water like the Lodown, and is just a tad heavier. The Lodown also has pit zips. I would use the Lodown for layering while skiing or super active cold sports. The Sub Zero is probably more suitable for alpine climbing and activities in the cold that tend to be slower pace. -----------------------Both the LoDown and Sub Zero are similar jackets. The main difference is that the LoDown has slightly less 650 fill down than the Sub Zero (1lb.7oz. vs 1lb. 110z.) with the idea that it would be used as a layering piece as well as a stand alone jacket. Both have a good DWR and both will shed a little moisture just fine. Hope this info helps!
I am 5'10" and 165lbs and ordered the L, because I wanted to be able to wear as an outer layer over other things. As others have noticed, it is slightly short in the torso, but not too much and it stays down if the waist cords are tightened on my hips. Nicely constructed with tougher material on high-wear areas; more polished than my old TNF Nuptuse down jacket. Good value for the money. I also have the MH SubZero Parka (longer, so no problems with shortness but a bit too much except when it gets to -40C) and the MH Phantom Down Jacket (more fragile, but lighter and perfect to stuff in a pack when hiking/skiing).
Ok, I've read all these Q&A's... and here's what I want to know, if I am going to face rain, what should I do, buy this? Or look at another model? I think I'm up against the hardest combo, that is ultra cold, definitely could be looking at sub-below temperatures or other very cold days with rain, sleet/snow.Bottom line, should I buy this item AND a totally water proof shelf to wear on really wet days? Or go with a totally different jacket altogether? Thanks!
This jacket is not good in the rain, but the SL models with a conduit shell shed water surprizingly well, although, if you are going to be exposed to heavy rain for any length of time you better get a good shell. If it is ultra cold and kinda wet the sub zero sl would fit the bill! If its cold and really wet get the sub zero with a seperate shell, like maybe the Epic or the Quark.----------------------------I don't know what you mean by sub-below, but keep in mind that if it is more than a few degrees below freezing, it won't rain, and if it's above freezing and you're moving around a lot, this'll be too warm.
I have now owned this jacket for about 4 years and have been very happy with it. Aside from being a very warm jacket, its construction is high quality and there is good attention to detail with its features. I am particular pleased with the fleece lined pockets and collar, as well as the elastic bottom draw cord that are located inside the pockets (so you don't have to take your hands out). It also packs down to a small size for easy packing. As per other reviews, the length may be a tad short especially if it rides up, but keeping the draw cords tight will prevent this. In my opinion, this is a better alternative to the seemingly ubiquitous North Face Nuptse jacket
Just bought this in the cocobolo color. Its a deep burgandy (in my opinion)or an auburn-ish color. The trim is black. I like the color more after getting it in the mail; not the typical "winter coat colors"!!
Jacket is extremely warm. I thought fit was ok. Takes a little adjusting to the "puffiness" of it. I feel like George C. in the Puffy Coat for all you Seinfeld fans. The down tends to leak out too which doesn't bother me, but my wife doesn't like all the white feathers on the seat in her cars' black interior.
I cant decide between this jacket and the marmot guides down sweater. I have a medium patagonia softshell, so I doubt I will fit either of these jackets under it. Which one would be best for the freezing cold, wet, washington mountains? Thanks.
The jackets are very similar with the same 650 quality down. The weight is almost exactly the same and I know that neither of them have any sort of laminate that would make them waterproof in wet weather. Both have very good DWR's that will make them water resistant. If you are looking for something to keep you warm when really wet... good luck. But a better choice might be a jacket with synthetic insulation.
This is the best down jacket in its class, hands down! I swear by Mountain Hardwear products, they have never disappointed me. I recently wore this jacket during the arctic blast that hit Montana in early December 2008--temps were -35 wind chill. Out of curiosity I went for a little walk to test the jacket out under these extreme conditions. To my astonishment my upper body was unharmed by the cold. Tough jacket.
I was given this coat as a gift at work (outdoor work) and it has been a great way to stay warm in any weather. It has faced four Utah winters. Lots of -20 (colder with wind) weather this winter in the Uintah Basin of Utah and never once even mildly cold. The only cold thing about this coat is anything it doesn't cover (legs, heads, etc.). It holds up to abrasion and dry snow as well. I even got battery acid on the sleeve and it didn't melt too bad!
Yes, check either the Absolute Zero Jacket from Mountain Hardwear (non-detachable hood) or, for a bit less money, the Downtown Coat (w/ detachable hood), also from Hardwear. Cheers!
I bought this after a back injury caused spasms which got worse when the winter weather hit. I bought this and the Dome Pignon beanie. I dont think I could have made a better choice!!! I would buy it again when and if this ones wears out. I love the cocobolo color option - not your average color!
One difference is that the Sub Zero jacket use 650 fill down. The Aconcagua uses 550 fill down. Also, the Sub Zero jacket has slightly tougher material on the shoulders and elbow areas where the Aconcagua does not. Also, the Aconcagua weighs 21.1oz and the Sub Zero weighs 27oz... not a ton of difference by any means but seeing as how a higher quality down in being used in the Sub Zero... the Sub Zero might be a little more puffy and therefore warmer. Hope this helps!
You can... but it is not a waterproof jacket. It has a very high quality DWR (durable water repellent finish) that will keep much of the moisture out of the jacket. Even if the jacket becomes soaking wet it will not be ruined. Just dry and it will be good to go!
I'm 6'3" and 190 lbs. I ordered a large. It seems to be a little short in the sleeves and overall length. Also, there is a good bit of room in the chest and stomach of the jacket; almost to much. Seems like there is less down in the lower back of the jacket. I don't know if it was manufactured that way or if the down has just escaped over time. However the jacket is extremely warm. I wore it on a camping trip with temperatures in the teens and wind gust of 20 mph. I stayed warm the entire time. Great jacket, but I have to give it 3 stars for the fit. If it was about an inch or two longer it would be perfect.
You can, but if you're outside for a long time and it's warm enough for the snow to melt, you're going to get wet.Down is for COLD. If you think snow could melt or that it may rain, try something a tad more waterproof.
Super jacket. Incredibly warm and it packs down really well in the provided stuff sack. I'm sure with a compression sack it could be squished down even more. It's definitely a great choice as a belay jacket and the ripstop nylon and burly arm patches are a nice addition to ward off pesky ice screws & ice tools that seem to like munch holes down jackets. The only drawback (and it's minor one) about his jacket is the lack of a hood. Overall, a really great jacket and priced very fairly for the quality and workmanship.
This is definitely the warmest jacket I've ever owned. I'm 5'8" and 165lbs. Bought a Med. and it fits great. I love the fleece pockets and the extra large one inside. The only down side is the outer material. It does have reinforced shoulders but I snagged a sleeve and already got a small hole in it. Any recommendations on patching the thin material? Still one of my favorite jackets for keeping warm in the Alps.
What're the main differences between this jacket and the Mountain Hardwear Sub Zero SL Hooded Down Jacket. I live in Seacoast NH and it gets cold here but not too, too many days below zero during the winter, and my main use of this jacket would be casual with some days belaying ice climbing, and possible winter hikes. Which jacket would you guys recommend? Is the hood the main difference? Is it worth the extra $90?
It is worth the extra $90 bucks especially if you are going to belay in it. The deal is that the Sub Zero SL Hooded Jacket for one is hooded, which is nice when belaying, and two it is made utilizing the Conduit SL laminate in the shell fabric which makes it extremely weather resistant. Also, the Sub Zero SL Hooded is baffled like a sleeping bag... so, no cold spots! Hope this info helps.
The best 650 fill light weight jacket on the market. I am 6' and it is a good fit. Would like it about 2 in longer in the trunk. It is a great car or travel coat though.
Duck feather down.-------------------------650 fill (minimum) Grey European GOOSE Down... not sure if there are Ducks involved or not in the construction of this jacket!
I wear this jacket in any weather (I've worn it down to -20F) and been comfortable. Looking back, I should have gotten the hooded version, but I'm happy with this jacket.
Very comfortable, fits true to size, and has lots of pockets!
I'm 6'4", 42 chest, 34 waist. I wear the XL and it fits perfectly. Sleeves are long enough, and the waist of the coat hits me right at the waist (novel idea, right?). This is my favorite winter jacket, due in large part to the cut. It's also super warm, and after 8 years, has been super durable. It's money well spent.
This is a VERY warm jacket with good stitching and zippers. Know that this is a climber's design, so it's cut a bit short at the waist for all you fashion folks out there. As for the puffy look others are writing about, if it's 10 degrees out, do you care about how you look? This is the warmest outdoor jacket I've owned. A few feathers pop out now and then, but I've noticed that about every down outdoor product I've ever owned. The feathers should be all gone in about a hundred years or so. Excellent product from an excellent company.
Your best bet would be to get a large. The XL would probably fit you better in length but it would be super roomy in the chest area. Large will probably be your best fit...
I'm 5'9", 155lbs and bought a medium. It is a little big in the chest and a bit short (but the drawstrings can keep the cold out). It's possible that if it was a little more form fitting it would be warmer, perhaps I should have bought a small. It seems rather durable- the fabric hasn't ripped even though it has been snagged on brush when moving through the woods. I was hoping it would be much warmer, but that's what the expensive jackets are for, right? The price is right as well. oh yeah- it's looks good too!
gOOD JACKET. VERY WARM. STOOD OUTSIDE WITH IT ALL DAY IN DECEMBER IN TENNNESSEE AT TRIPPLE CROWN BOULDER COMP (IT SNOWED A BIT BUT NOT MUCH). DIDNT WIN, DIDNT GET COLD. WORE BASE LAYER AND FLEEC BELOW IT. AND FITS GOOD, DOESNT MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE THE FAT KID AS DID A PREVIOUS DOWN JACKET I HAD.
I don't think I have ever loved an article of clothing as much as I love this coat. I am 6'7" and have an XL that fits great. The fleece lined pockets are a really nice touch. I went for a quick spin on my motorcycle the other day, air temp was 24 and I was toasty warm. Sooo good.
I've owned my Mountain Hardwear Sub 0 for over a year now. This jacket will keep you warm for sure. On extremely cold days I couple this jacket with my Mountain Hardwear Monkey Man fleece and I am as toasty as when I'm sitting by the fire. These jackets are not designed to be waterproof so just throw your Gore-Tex shell on over it and enjoy the outdoors worry free. The included stuff sack makes the jacket compress nicely, but add a compression sack and you can make this jacket fit in even the smallest of daypacks. Try doing that with your run-of-the-mill parka and liner. If you want quality and warmth go with MH, don't let the pricetag scare you and don't pay the same or more for another brand just because of the name. They make quality apparel for outdoor enthusiasts. I wear this "puffer" all the time, whether it be up in the mountains or around town. The only reason I didn't give this 5 stars is that the sizes didn't fit me exactly how I wanted. I bought a small for my 5'8'' 155lb frame and it is a little short in the torso but not too much. The sleeves on the medium were just too long for me. This coat will keep you warm!
I bought the black one for my 14 year old son and now his dad wants one too. It is warm, comfortable without being huge and puffy! It's not as puffy as it looks in the picture. It really looks good and works for so many activities. He even wears it to the ski slopes. Plenty of room to layer too. Mountain hardware is always a great buy! I love their womens stuff too.
Awesome jacket, came in a timely fashion to my home in far north canada. We are average -30 here and have put the jacket to the test several occasions already and it performs...and it packs very small with little weight
This jacket is awesome and totally warm with one glaring exception- it is wayy too short. I'm 5'10" 175lbs. and this coat barely makes it past my waist. If I sit down or bend over slightly my lower back becomes completely exposed. This is quite annoying. How did nobody else found this as a problem?? I'm not even tall...
I got this jacket for my Dad on his birthday and he says he loves it. It's very warm, the Cocobolo is a good brown color, the fleece-lined hand pockets are nice, and the shoulder and elbow fabrics are durable. He says he's sure he will be warm when he has to go out and feed the horses first thing in the morning!
I had been wanting a down jacket for a while before I got this. I went into the local store and tried it on and knew it was the one I wanted. Super comfy from the first time I tried it on.
I'm 6'2" and about 195 lbs and I bought a large. It's roomy enough that I can layer underneath it no problem, but not too big that I'm getting lost inside of it. It's just right.
Though I will say this, its been the rare occasion that I've had to layer with this coat. I bought it primarily for the Sundance Film Festival because those January nights in Park City can be pretty brutal. It has done a great job keeping me warm. Paired with a good beanie (Mtn Hardwear Dome Perignon) it was all I needed to be comfortable in <20 degree weather. Great Jacket.
I realize that no jacket is really the best ever. But if it's cold in Park City, I pull on this jacket. It's warm, it breathes, the ripstop nylon is super durable (had a run in with a stucco wall, jacket doesn't have a mark on it), and it keeps enough moisture off to stand outside and watch pretty much anything. The cut is generous without being michelin-esque. This jacket is cozy, comfortable, good looking and long wearing. I've had mine for 8 years and it still looks as good as the day I bought it. This is the best, cold weather, stand outside and watch a winter concert at the Canyons, jacket ever. It's a little too warm for heavy activity, but packs up tight so you can throw it in your pack as an emergency shell/insulator for winter camping/snowcaving/ski touring.
This jacket is not only super warm, it's super comfortable. I got it last year and it was perfect for those winter camping trips where you can't muster a fire. Defiantly the warmest jacket I've ever used. And don't worry about wear and tear. It comes with tough shoulders and after a year of use it hasn't lost any feathers and still looks brand new
Backcountry. Fantastic service. PROMPT, RELIABLE, shame about the taxation sydtem on delivery. UPS are beyond namely they will not hand over the item you have already paid fpr unless you pay them up front. Theree's a balance here between ordering quality gear in the appropriate sizes not available in europe and being penalized by the charges having to be paid up front. Its such a shame!!
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