These pants were really disappointing. I have lots of MH stuff, but after getting these really cheap at the end of the season, am very disappointed. I just used them for the first time, and even though it's Rai****, these pants leaked terribly. I got really wet on my bum. The pants seem strong, but I already have a pull on my left leg. Bottom zipper and snap are good, and kept snow out, but would not recommend these unless you seriously waterproofed them or wore gaiters underneath. Color's nice though.

I bought these pants last year and I am about to throw them in the bottom of the drawer and buy GoreTex ProShell pants. I do not know how MH can say these pants are waterproof...when these things get wet they are really heavy. I have used them for back country skiing and ice climbing and I am very dissatisfied.

Ok, let's get something out of the way. Ski pants get thrashed. No matter how much you take care of things, you've got, what, 150 ski days in a pair of pants, if they are solid?

I've put around 90 days in my stances, and they are solidly going strong, and waterproof still. (Keep that sidezip covered by the flaps, or they aren't). The knee articulation is a good angle, the waist is a good fit. They aren't too bulky, nor too flimsy, and they deal well in storms.

Really, I see my set having 40 or so days left in them, the ankle cuffs are getting a little thready, and the knees/hips have taken some abrasion. (oh-sh** on icy patch + 200 foot slide before arrest = face fabric gets a little furry). When they blow out, I'll get another pair, when those blow out, I'll get another pair. Ski jackets are glory pieces to last years. Ski pants are consumable.

HI...and Hey: Are you really selling M H ' Stance' pants for $69.00... BUCKS ! ! ??I bought mine on-line from Backcountry.com about a month ago for $89.00 and thought that was a deal, so I am not complaining. In fact, I am probably writing a review of these great pants by Mountain Hardware. The damn things arrived about ten days later - as advertised!! I wanted to replace my previous pair: the 'same' ones by M.H. - which I found here in Whistler for $220 - on sale. Which sounds like not such a great deal - but which was half price on M.H. AND every other full-zip, lined, uninsulated pant, in Whistler. Even the MEC was more expensive.So I read the other reviews just now. I am surprised. We have some shmoo here and MY pants didn't leak:Granger's twice a season. They are uninsulated , so if you are complaining about cold- put on another layer. I could open the side zips and cool off while cruising the road back from Ruby Bowl. I will put a better scuff guard on the legs when I reduce the way tooo wide lower leg and cuff - crampon wearers beware! I put over 220 days on my old pants and hope to put another 200 days on these. Only 6 or 7 weeks till ski season. Cool

It's mountain hardware, how bad can they be? Really?

Bad if you're using them for skiing. And not worth the cash if you're mountaineering.

Wind blows right through them. No warmth whatsoever. And the wet snow melted and soaked them so fast that within 1/2 the lift ride they were wet to my base layer. For skiing, I say they're terrible. I normally ski in hard shells and boxers 'cause I run warm, and for my first season in 10 years I'm wearing thermals. I don't normally want insulation, but shesh, how about a little wind protection?

I've sliced through the ankles in the second month of owning them, but I'm learning tele this season. If you're a better skier you may not have that issue.

Full length zips might be nice if you were mountaineering, but they're more of a pain in the butt for skiing. Fortunately (as noted above) I don't want any ventilation either. The fabric does that for me. Possibly the worst outdoor gear purchase I've ever had.

The size is still ok, colour is nice. Good breathing material for warmer days, but the gaitors are misfitting and leaking, bad construction. The material itself is not bad, but to weak for rough ground and the reinforcements at the boots area are to thin/weak, already torn up by the telemark skis. Why is there no possibillity for a real belt at this price ?
Sorry I am really disappointed by this product, I think it was produced in china ??? cheap stuff - sold expensively, I´m very angry ! :-(((

i paid full fare for these pants at the start of last season. i expected at least basic water-resistant performance out of them. what i got was a wet butt, wet thighs and a lighter wallet. my 15 year old REI ski pants do much better in wet conditions. in cold storms, they soak as soon as the snow starts hitting your legs. in warm storms, they soak as soon as you get in line. they breath well enough touring, but get heavy when they soak through for your second lap. worst of all, MH did not honor their warranty for the pant! do not buy these pants.

I was looking for a good light weight spring skiing pant that breathed well and these fit the bill. I didn’t really expect these to be 100% water proof as one reviewer criticized I have TNF 3 ply gore pants that are bomber for the cold and/or wet but just like how light theses were compared to 3 ply pants. Side zip was great and easy to open and close for venting while on the lift. The suspenders look cool and would be great to relieve yourself but at the longest length they were still short for me (6’2”) and I did need them. The pant length was great and I usually need a large long (34” in street pants) but the regular are plenty long enough.

I am a ski patrol member in Fairbanks Alaska. I ended up wearing these pants from -20 degrees with wind, up to 55 and sunny. They preformed wonderfully. Never once did I have a leak and the only reason I marked them down is because they are scuffed up and cut a little more than I would have liked. But that could have been from the constant use and abuse I put them through.

I did remove the suspenders and added a pair of my own. The ones that came with it were a little goofy.

Bottom line: these are some fine ski pants and if you can find them on sale jump on it.

These pants are extremely long in length, which would be a bonus for some. I'm short and stumpy, so I wasn't to happy about that. But these pants faired well on both a warm spring day and a cold snowy day. Grab these up while they are so cheap, well worth the price and then some!

These are not as bad as described by some of the other reviews. For less than $50 they are actually pretty good. The full side zips allowed me to air out while riding the lift. They were water resistant enough. I would not use these in storm conditions. Hoping to get some good use out of these as spring riding picks up. I think they do an adequate job at minimizing humidity south of the border.

I am a late March / early April skier. I've just returned from a four day skiing trip in which we had all sorts of weather: sunny, cloudy, windy and snowing. I am reviewing this pants, taking into account that I use them in Spring.

The pros: 1. they are light, 2. they are wide on the bottom which is great because I use really wide boots, 3. I never got wet and 4. they are comfortable.

The cons: 1. if the wind blows a little you might feel cold, but after the first run you forget all about that, 2. they are too long.

All in all, if you don't fall often or ski in deep powder or in a bad weather, this pants work just fine. In my case, they were great. I gave them only four stars, because in my opinion they are too long.

These pants are great. I ski in southern colorado and have had no problem with these pants. On warm days and times of hiking they have a great side zips for vents. On the colder snowy days I am plenty warm. These are great ski pants. The suspenders are a little wierd, but work. I don't know what the other people are complaining about unless they are just using them in the rain and expected a $400.00 pant for $150. You get what you pay for and for a $150 these pants are much better than the Marmots I just replaced.

I think these pants are getting a bad rap. So I'll address a couple of things.
A. They are full zip snow pants, not rain pants, if it's raining, you'll probably get some water through the zippers.
B. Waterproof pants need to be taken care of differently than normal pants, if you are going to be washing them, make sure you use a detergent and restorer. Mtn Hardwear can recommend what kind.

That being said,
They have been great for me so far. I have used them snowboarding, snowshoeing, and have done some light mountaineering in them. When I got them one of the zippers wouldn't release, MH took care of that for me fast. They are a bit baggier than a typical mountaineering pant, but not excessively, like snowboarding pants would be.
I have used gaiters with them, so really can't comment about the gaiters. The suspenders take a little getting used to, but weren't really much of a bother.

These pant look nice and fit a tall frame well, but they are cheaply made. No scuff guards on the cuffs and they provide little protection from the wind.