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For those who take great pleasure in a day filled with punishing ups and downs over rough terrain, the Montrail Men’s Mountain Masochist GTX Trail Running Shoe is here to ease the pain. With a Gore-Tex membrane to seal out moisture associated with muddy trails and splashy creek crossings, this lightweight shoe bears the beating you’re sure to put it through. Montrail sandwiched a protective yet flexible Trail Shield plate in between the Masochist’s sticky Gryptonite rubber outsole and triple-density Vapor Response EVA mid sole, so you get the most functional blend of traction, protection, and comfort.
I have owned both the CD and this pair. I'll credit that the design objectives for the two shoes are probably different, so it may not be a fair comparison. Either way, I took these out for backpacking the Long Trail in the end of June and early July this year (record amounts of rain and cool temps). I have to say that these shoes, in comparison to the CD, utterly failed for that trip (perhaps credit my gear selection, but I was looking for a waterproof shoe). These shoes are much softer in the forefoot, with a much less rigid trail shield. I had much more foot soreness and bruising rock hoping through muddy spots that I ever would have had with the CD. I was very dissapointed and frustrated at this aspect. But again to credit the shoes and what Jon has testified to, these are designed differently.
In addition, I faced durability issues with my pair. To begin, I wore them for two 10 mile break in hikes. Everything felt good with the shoes. Granted, the fit would probably still have been good out on the trail, but it was just too wet and blisters were inevitable. However, after the first 75 miles or so, the heels started to show compression marks, and after the first 150 miles or so, the outsoles started to delaminate from the midsole in the heel (take note of the split heel in the photos above). This was certainly not up to my expectations for a shoe, esp. from the good history I've had with montrails.
In my opinion, if you are looking for a replacement for the CD, this is not your shoe. I've begun stockpiling the CD (I'm up to 3 pairs) in fear I won't find a replacement I like.
Jon, please consider this customer feedback wanting the CD's to come back! They were the best lightweight backpacking shoe ever.
The Mountain Masochist is a much different shoe than the Continental Divide. The ride height is much higher in the C.Divide than in the Masochist. The C.Divide has a heel post where the Masochist has much smaller medial post or 'fatigue post' as I call it. The Masochist has a de-coupled heel and in conjunction with the small post will still provide a bit of motion control but I would not consider this a motion control shoe in the traditional sense. As has been mentioned, it is light, agile, progressive, and won the 'Gear of the Year' award from Outside Magazine. It is a phenomenal shoe and very different than the C. Divide. If you are looking for a slightly stiffer and more supportive shoe... consider the Hardrock '09 from Montrail as well. Hope this helps!
This is not a back packing shoe or a stability shoe. It's amusing to see people saying that this shoe doesn't compare to the Continental Divide, I say thank goodness. The CD was way to stiff to be a decent trail runner. This is a runners shoe, one meant for those of us who love to speed down mountains and fly over rocky terrain. It is designed with a minimalist mind set to reduce the weight, and provide critical protection but still allow you to feel the trail. It is supper flexible allowing you to run with a midfoot strike which most built up trail runners won't allow. I have run long miles in these for almost six months, and although the shoe looks like hell right now (and smells even worse), I am still putting the miles on them. Best trail shoe yet.
I took this photo after using these shoes for about 210 miles on the Long Trail, VT. The compression in the midsole started around mile 95, and the outsole in the heel started delaminating at mile 170.
it's worth trying the masochist but i'd say you also won't get the stability in the platform that the diez vista had either. the masochist is much less stable, and thus light and agile!
The Mountain Masochist is a lighter weight shoe than the Diez Vista, your foot would sit lower to the ground in the shoe than in the Diez Vista, and it still has a medial post like the Diez Vista. Not as big a medial post but none the less it is present. With that said that is where the similarities end. Ultimately it is a very different shoe but might be worth a try. Also, check out the non-GoreTex version of the Mountain Masochist as well.
Okay, some background info first. 1) I'm a big fan of the Continental Divide shoes. 2) I purchased these with the intent of backpacking the Long Trail (pack weight under 25lbs total) 3)It has been the rainiest, coldest stretch in June/July when I was hiking. Now onto the shoes.
1) These were way too soft for hiking that trail. Walking rocky ridgelines for 12-15 miles a day, my forefoot took a beating. These are not nearly as stiff as the CD's were. I'm not sure how they'd fair for a runner, but a 10 miles run every day under similar conditions would give the same results, I imagine.
2) After about 95 miles in the shoes, they began showing compression stress marks in the heels, and after 170 or so, the outsole started delaminating from the midsole at the heel (notice split heel in the photos above). This is not what I would have expected from a Montrail.
3) I could NEVER get these shoes to dry out on the trail. I'll won't totally knock the shoe, given the record wet/cold conditions, but as much as I hate to say it, after the first 5-10 miles, it did seem like these shoes would leak from below the footbed. I could be wrong, but it didn't seem like my feet could sweat for as much moisture was on the inside of the gore-tex membrane.
Overall, I'm stocking up on CD's until they bring out something similar.
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