Marmot Ultimate Guide Glove

Very warm. Solid consrtuction. The inner glove is great. The inner liner is a leather trimmed $50 windstopper type of glove. I like the liner by itself. When you put the goretex gauntlet shell the trouble begins.

Problems: Very big and bulky. The palm has way to much extra room. Stiff. Stiff. Stiff. I can baerly make a fist for a minute before my hand starts cramping. These are not very good for skiing. It is hard to flex your hand for any peiod of time. Dexterity is not very good.

I got them on sale and will use them for everything but skiing. I have a pair of Black Diamond Prodigys that are a better choice for skiing.

Great gloves. These gloves aren't quite as dexterous as the BD Prodigy's I had before, however they are much more versatile. The shell on the marmot has the water proof membrane as well as some insulation, making it a nice glove on it's own. The liner mine came with is windstopper fleece which is great for approach hiking or the uphill skinning/climbing. Overall I find my hands are much drier than with my BD Prodigy's (since those shells were just leather), which translates to much warmer in the Cascades.

The downside on these is they are expensive, but that's the glove market, these are certainly competitively priced with any other gloves I've seen. However, the finish quality on these gloves is *MUCH* higher than my previous BD gloves.

I'd buy these again.

I just ordered these. Holy crap are they stiff. I can barely bend my fingers. I have issues gripping a ski pole completely. I comfortably wear a large glove and bought these in large, but they are a very tight fit. My hand feels constricted within the gloves, but the finger tip lengths and general dimensions are right so I don't think a larger size is the solution. Also, the shell feels as if it wasn't sized properly for the already snug liner, so wearing both feels extra tight. Lastly, getting in and out of the liners is a pain as for some reason the designers felt they should make the opening just barely big enough to put your hand through, making it quite an ordeal to pull them over your hands. The liner interior wasn't cut/sewn all that well and you feel the edges of the fabric at the seems, which I think is poor craftmanship as I don't have this issue with other liners. Lastly, I wasn't happy that there's no back of the hand pocket for warmers and such, but might not be necessary on such a warm glove.

With all the negativity, I will say that the build quality is generally excellent. I do like that there's hook and loop to hold in the liners, which is a key factor in my purchase, although with the liners' snug fit the hook and loop often doesn't keep them liners from pulling out on your hands. The gloves feel like they'll keep me very warm, used for the coldest of weather. I don't know for sure as I am most likely going to return them.

Liners aren't wool despite the description here.

Not sure why these gloves are getting ripped. Just came back from Steamboat and loved them. No issues with construction of any kind. Liners are very durable and easier to get hands out of without removing them from the glove like others I've tried. It was in the teens in the AM and with the liners I stayed toasty warm. Mid-afternoon the it hit 32 degrees and I skied without the liners for perfect temp. Overall a very versatile glove. Probably the only thing I think should be improved is the clasp for holding the gloves together or on a jacket loop. The snap is pretty small and doesn't look that durable. Hestra does a much better job in this department. That being said, I used the wrist loops instead and rely on the clasp only for storage. I've got pretty big hands (8" wrist to fingertips) and bought XLs. They fit snug width-wise with the liners, fine in length with a little extra at the tips.

I found the gloves to be very stiff and too snug even going one size above what the sizing chart called for. The elastic cuff is poorly designed and does not release when you squeeze the spring loaded draw string clasp plus they are tiny making it difficult to squeeze them. The gloves are rated at 0-20 degrees, after 40 minutes in 16 degree weather with no wind my fingers were very cold on both hands.

For me you really have to deliver an amazing glove to
command a retail price of 160.00 especially in this economy
Your saying this is as good as the black diamond guides
Sorry marmot not even close way over priced .
Lacks in almost everything.

-Dexterity: 1 turn. Very rigid

-Removable liner: 4 turn. Best of breed - truly 3 gloves in one. I would pay money to have just the liner (windstopper Goretex fleece with very usable tacky grip - great for skinning.

-Wrist fit: 3 turns. 2nd best wrist strap of them all.

-Palm material: 0 turns.

-Overall Construction: 3 turns. Great glove even without the liner, very usable as a stand alone - I just could not see the palm material working out as planned.

-Verdict: 2 turns. I had high hopes as I was looking to replace my older Marmot Ultimate Ski gloves with a glove with a liner....the new palm material on this glove is very stiff and not lending itself to dexterity.