I bought these bibs sight unseen based on their rep and spec list. On paper, they seemed to have exactly what I wanted. In reality, they have all the features, it's the material that's the problem. The outside of these bibs are not made for any type of abuse. Case in point, first bc trip in these - I sat on a rock and ripped a 2 inch hole in the seat. Marmot fixed it, but not under warranty, so it cost 40 bucks. At least they added a cordura panel to the seat so that it won't happen again. If you are looking for something burly, this isn't the pant.

These pants are very good for blocking out the harsh weather and the half bib length is perfect for keeping unwanted snow out. They are as previously stated not very durable so keep that in mind when out in the elements. The full length zipper is very convenient when you are too warm, just zip them off and stow them in the pack, they compress into small spaces very well and are lightweight.

A great functional pant that can't only be worn in the backcountry but also on the slopes of Zermatt or St. Moritz...

Perfect amount on bulk for the backcountry (don't overheat, but keeps you warm on blizzard days. They are very functional and move well. No problems with durability. Suspenders are easy to adjust. The suspenders have a tendency to slip off from time to time... it could be a slippery layer underneath, but it would be nice if the straps had a little more grip. Also, I sometimes confuse the side pocket zipper with the side zips (right next to each other and they feel the same).

If you are looking for something to keep the snow outside of your pants... I highly recomend these. I have used them now for Skiing and Ice Climbing I had to scramble through rocks, hit trees, and Even accidently got a little "wild" with my ice axe;however, these pants still are seemless and I have not had a problem with durability. The Side pocket side zip tend to look the same and i would recomend caution expecially if you didn't feel like wearing a base layer... Woops... Bottom line if you want a good shell these are not a bad choice and I am happy with mine.

If you are looking for something to keep the snow outside of your pants... I highly recomend these. I have used them now for Skiing and Ice Climbing. I had to scramble through rocks, hit trees, and Even accidently got a little "wild" with my ice axe;however, these pants still are seemless and I have not had a problem with durability. The Side pocket side zip tend to look the same and i would recomend caution expecially if you didn't feel like wearing a base layer... Woops... Bottom line if you want a good shell these are not a bad choice.

Finally decided to take the plunge and buy a set of lite shells for the BC...these certainly do not disappoint. The fit is very good, and the pants are very durable. The knee pads are a big plus, especially for touring when you frequently take a knee to strap your skis on the pack or take gear out.
Only gripe is they seem to have a rather long inseam. Not very noticeable when skiing...but gators are definitely advised if you plan on climbing with crampons.