It's true...over time you will save money going with a liquid fuel stove vs. a canister stove. Liquid fuel stoves also work much better when it gets really cold. Normally you don't have to prime the WindPro, but the cool thing about it is that it can be primed when you flip the canister over, sending liquid Propane/Isobutane fuel into the generator tube. The challenge is making sure the canister remains up-side-down.

I love the WindPro and believe it's MSR's best all-around stove. It's great for car-camping, weekend camping, 3 season backpacking (light and compact), and winter camping (ability to flip the canister up-side-down). I also like that it's a 'satellite' stove in that the canister isn't directly connected to the stove which allows you to use a windscreen (wind is the biggest nemesis in terms of efficiency and boil times with any backpacking stove). This is an exception, rather than the rule, compared to most canister stoves. Most canister stoves are the 'sit-on-top' type.

If you want a stove that will last you many years and will work in super cold temps consistently, along with the added benefit of saving money over time by using white gas, I would get a Whisperlite. However if flame control, lightweight, ease of use, and less mess are really important to you, important enough to cover the fact that it won't work as well in super cold weather and the fuel is far more expensive, I would go with the WindPro.

Yes, this is made in the US... just an error on our part.

Not only is the WindPro made in the USA but so are most all MSR stoves. The only exception is the Pocket Rocket which is made in Korea, for whatever reason.

bc.com needs to check their "Tech Specs" a little more closely. They have so many items to keep track of & for the most part do a good job, but every once in awhile they'll miss one.

Stoves aren't the problem as long as they are in checked baggage. It's the fuel that can't be transported on an airline.

If the bag is checked, I think it is fine. Unfortunately I am not for certain, but I've traveled with stoves similar to it in checked bags without fuel canisters and have had no problems. Sorry I don't have a better answer!

This question is "What is the difference between pressurized fuel stoves (Aka "canister") and liquid fuel stoves?"

Canisters (like the WindPro) are gas under pressure. Liquid fuel stoves (like the Simmerlite) attach to an empty bottle that you fill the fuel with yourself. Here are some benefits of each:

PRESSURIZED FUEL/CANISTER STOVES (Ex. WindPro)
- Stoves themselves are generally cheaper (= cost up front)

- Because the fuel is under pressure the gas already comes out as a vapor and is ready to safely burn, so you don't have to prime it, which can be tricky for beginners and is an extra step (= ease of use, quicker to food)

- Because the canister is already under pressure, you do not have to pressurize it yourself by hand (= ease of use)

- Because you don't have to prime the stove, you will not get black soot all over you or your stove (= cleaner)

- Because you don't have to manually pressurize the canister, it is more uniform the flame can be adjusted MUCH more than that of liquid fuel for simmering things. (= more cooking versatility)

- If you are going out for trips that you cook less than 7 times, the overall weight (stove + fuel needed) is less than most liquid fuel stoves, including the Simmerlite. (= lightweight)

BENEFITS OF LIQUID FUEL STOVES (Ex. SimmerLite)
- Fuel is cheaper (= cost in the long run)

- White gas is easier to find outside of the U.S. (and you can't travel with fuel) (= more versitile if traveling)

- Because you can open the fuel bottle, you always know exactly how much fuel you have and you can bring only what you need rather than one full and one partly empty canister (= peace of mind, possibly light weight)

- Because you fill the bottle on your own, you do not have to dispose of, or try to recycle (sometimes difficult) the empty canister (= can be more eco-friendly)

- Because you buy your own fuel bottles, you can attach different sizes for different trips and carry only the amount of fuel you need (= can be lighter)

- If you are going out for trips that you cook more than 7 times (or you need to boil snow for water), the overall weight (stove + fuel needed) is less than most pressurized fuel stoves, including the WindPro. (= lightweight, more efficient)

- Liquid fuel stoves perform MUCH better under cold (below 30) and high-altitude conditions (above 11,000). If you are going to be somewhere freezing AND high altitude much of the time, it is a much better choice. (= more versatile)

There are some exceptions to the rules and some tricks you can do to improve certain aspects of them, but these are the basics, and the difference comes down to what YOU will be using it for.

A few things the Simmer light is heavier but has about a min faster boil time. Different fuels and the Windpro has a Heat Reflector and a Windscreen where the simmerLite does not. Also the SimmerLite is just stainless steel. Hope that helps

From the picture of the MSR Windscreen and Heat Reflector set for sale, yes, it is the exact same as what comes with the WindPro stove.

Personally I think 0 degrees F is quite a stretch. I notice a distinct drop-off in performance below 25 degrees. This is why I always recommend using a liquid fuel stove during the winter months.

Any stove that uses IsoPro (or any other canister butane/propane mix) will suffer a loss of performance in cold weather. The fuel becomes dense and is less easily vaporized. I have had my WindPro fail to light and stay lit in 15 degree weather. After that, on winter hikes, I started hiking the last few miles before setting up camp with the canister between my base layer and outer layers, and sleeping with it in my bag at night. I have never had a problem with it since.

Cold weather really doesn't become a problem with this stove until you get at or below 0°F.Take a look at the MSR Stove Tips too for using at high altitudes:http://msrgear.com/stoves/windpro.asp (under the more info tab at the bottom of the page)Personally I think 0 degrees F is a stretch. I notice a distinct drop-off in performance below 25 degrees. Bryan Bennett: I agree with Jeff, my windpro has poor performance when it gets below 20 deg F or so. Sleep with the canister in your sleeping bag if your worried about it.