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Thanks to serrated edges along bottom of the frames, the MSR Lightning Ascent Snowshoes provide 360-degree traction on hardcore, steep terrain (let's face it—slippage doesn't always occur in a straightforward manner). MSR also knows that snow kick-up and heel drag are lame, so they made the Lightning Ascent's tail with a rocker design. The aerospace-grade aluminum frame is super light for all-day hikes, and MSR's ergonomic Televator heel lifter minimizes calf fatigue so you can climb longer and farther. True-Hinge steel crampons provide stability, and the reinforced decks add durability. *Please see sizing chart for size tips.
Bottom Line: The serrated bottom-edges on MSR's Lightning Ascents won't double as kitchen knives, but they will give you crazy traction on snow.
Rarely do you put snowshoes on in the parking lot and keep them on the entire time. If you plan to access backcountry, especially to ski, climb, or ride, you have to expect that these puppies will eventually go on your back. (see image) Therefore, weight and size in a snowshoe is also super important, beyond performance. On the flat stuff most snowshoes work pretty much the same. But with the Lightning MSR has created a fluff flotation device that climbs hills with ease, busts windcrust, spares posthole nightmares, and bites in on side-hill traversing slogs- all in a lightweight design.
How do the Lightning's and MSR shoes in general handle traversing of hills? I've heard that MSR shoes don't pivot laterally, just fore and aft. If that's true are the Atlas' any better?
The MSR Lightning and Lightning Ascent snowshoes are designed to bite into the side of the hill when traversing. Because of the thin frame, you get much more penetration into the snow (even hard snow) than the tube of the Atlas snowshoes. Because of this, Atlas decided to allow their binding some movement. MSR felt that a more stable, solid pivot was important and to allow the snowshoe's frame to sink deeper into the snow.
One unique feature of the Lightning snowshoes is that the whole frame articulates allowing some movement to occur, kind of like a suspension for your snowshoes. This is far different from a standard tube-style snowshoe which doesn't flex at all. So, essentially, MSR has moved the flexing from the binding and pivot (no flex) to the frame (flex), unlike Atlas which engineered their snowshoes to allow the binding to flex but not the frame. I personally feel that it is a huge benefit that the binding and pivot are solidly set into the snowshoe without movement vs. it moving or flexing. This makes controlling the snowshoe much easier (i.e. side stepping, backing up, getting up after a fall, etc.).
Also worth mentioning is the incredible traction you get with the Lightning snowshoes when compared with any other snowshoe on the market. Because it mimics a cookie cutter when slicing into the snow, you simply don't slip. Rather than relying on a couple of sets of crampons riveted on to the bottom, the Lightning's frame acts as the crampon. Nothing compares! So for traversing a snowy slope and climbing up a steep hill, even in powder snow, there is not a better snowshoe on the market!
These are light, they have a heel elevator, they have mini steel crampons = they rock. I have the 30" I am 5'8" 155 lbs. Good float with a day pack on in dry fresh powder. The best thing about these is I barely notice they are there until the mountain gets steep and I flip up the televator and notice my friends are exerting themselves more for the same vertical gain. These really shine on icy hard pack and steep terrain. For flat land I'd get something cheaper.
I have never snowshoed before, but plan on starting this year because i just moved to Montana. I don't really know what snow conditions i will be in but i assume that there will be some deeper powder, which seems to be the only issue with these shoes. Never been through a winter here so not sure what to expect here, i plan to be mostly in the Beartooth-Absaroka mts and Yellowstone. From all the reviews ive read, in any conditions other than deep powder, these shoes are unrivaled. For now, i only want one pair of shoes. Im 6 ft 3 in and 225 lb with out gear. Are the 30's the right shoes for me?
I'm kind-of a big guy too and I've found the 30's to be the answer for me. In any condition you can only hope for maximum flotation from a snowshoe. I backpack too so I need to account for the weight of a winter-stuffed-backpack too.
These are good snowshoes (made in USA). Simple design, quality materials, light. The frame perform well on steep slopes and are versatile. You might have some concerns about the bindings that are somewhat archaic, but the are easy to use and i never had problems with, only make sure you have good boots (got the old version with only 2 front straps). The painting scales with use, but who care. Highly recommended. I'm 6" 155lbs and got 25".
I notice that the crampon on the Lightning Ascents has less teeth than that on the Denali Evo Ascents - does this translate into less traction whilst climbing? Would be grateful for some feedback to help to decide between these two shoes.
Also - in terms of performance, apart from the weight (and the price) what are the main differences between these two pairs of shoes?
There are a lot of differences between the Evo Ascents and the Lightning Ascents.
As far as traction: the Evo Ascent has the crampon under the front of the foot and rails down the sides. The Lightning Ascent has a crampon under the front of the foot, two side-to-side serrated pieces, and the entire frame is serrated. So no, the Lightning Ascent definitely does not have less traction.
In terms of differences: The Evo Ascent has plastic decking. The Lightning Ascent has an aluminum frame and urethane decking. The Evo Ascent has sold-separately tails that can be added for more float. The Lightning Ascent doesn't, so make sure you get the appropriate length for the conditions you're going to be using it in. Basically, they're a completely different design.
The only similarities that come to mind are the binding system and the fact that they both have a "televator" system for climbing.
Hope that helps...if you need more info, feel free to ask about specifics. Check out the MSR website too (www.msrcorp.com). It has more detailed info and specs on the two models.
lightweight, unparalleled traction, simple binding system, tackle steep stuff easy, and extremely durable. Been using these for several years now. Had the 2 strap binding version before and switched to this one in '08. Love them! The 3 strap bindings are great because I can get a real custom fit and not strap my foot down o hard it flattens my arch. The bindings don't really hold any snow either which is a plus. I am 185lb and usually have a 30lb pack on-I have tried all three sizes and went with the 25". Mostly wear them in the Utah backcountry powder. 30" was better flotation obviously but wasn't worth the extra length on the tail.
Please help me choose. I'm 6'2" - 220-230 pounds with a pack. I need snowshoes for mountaineering. I'm trying to decide between the 30" Lightning Ascents or the Denali Evo Ascents with flotation tails. I have heard so many mixed feelings on these I was hoping to hear more for my exact needs. Thanks
Write your answer here...I have the denali evos with 6 inc tails and am of the same height and weight. They are great have used them in all conditions and abused them alot and they have preformed great ! hope this helps you
I'm not overly experienced with snowshoes... only other ones I used were a pair my dad made in boy scouts as a kid... but these things are great from my perspective. I took them up in the mountains after our last storm to try em out, and while it was not ideal snow (not especially deep and pretty unconsolidated), they worked great. I was motoring up steep hills to try out the heel lifters, climbing over felled trees, scampering along partially exposed boulders, and these shoes didn't falter once. they are not nearly as bulky as I expected, and they are amazingly light the serrated edges were rock solid with every step, I was never once worried about slipping. I took these well off what I would consider a trail, and I didn't even begin to push their potential. I can't wait to get these into some serious back country.
I don't think a ski boot would be very comfortable. Although the bindings will work which is your question I am with the other reviewers-look at an AT set up. Hit the chat button and the BC gear heads can direct you to what you need.
I say get a touring setup also. Although these will "work" you will be miserable. At the 300# range, get the longest ones available. These are very high end snowshoes.
These bindings are very versatile and will work with a ski boot no problem. But why? If you are packing skis, you might as well skin up. Invest in an AT or Tele setup instead, you will be much faster uphill and will exert less energy than with Snowshoes.
These snow shoes are really well made, I was very happy with the quality. I actually bought these at another outfitter where their "gear expert" told me that the men's 25 would work for me since they were out of the women's 25... NOT SO! They were to wide for my stride, and I could not use the ascent feature because my foot is to small. Needless to say, I returned them and let that so-called expert know that he was quite mistaken. Nonetheless, my love was very happy with his. They were light and worked well for a 4 mile in fresh pow.
I've been using a pair of the Denali Evo's and they have been working great, however my buddy has some Lightning Ascents with the televator. I just ordered a pair and noticed that the front teeth under the toe are a lot smaller on the lightning vs the denali. I think this may make a big difference with traction when climbing steep sections, however, the 360deg traction frame on the lightning ascent is a plus also. Now I'm thinking about going with the Denali Evo Ascent. This would give me the televator, 2 long traction bars on either side, and I would maintain the large front teeth. Does anyone have any recommendations or personal preference on these features or shoes over the other?
Thanks! I think I will go with the Evo Ascents. The Evo's have been working well for the downhill, so I'll just add in the televator with the Ascent. Hopefully someday MSR will take this information and update their shoes to make the ULTIMATE shoe!!
Dude, you are in a bind. The large crampon teeth are crucial (evo ascent), but the 360 traction is big money when traveling down hill after a long climb. You are not going to get both unless you frankenstien two pairs of snowshoes to make the perfect pair. That being said, I would rather slip/glisade down that fight my way up with crappy crampons. Stick with the Evo Ascents and then you can add tails to them for deep snow or when you have a big pack on your back.
Took them out Christmas week to snowshoe Winner Creek trail in Girdwood, AK. This is a five mile round trip hike to the gorge and back. We did both on trail and off trail hiking. The snow shoes provided excellent traction on icy grades. Flotation suffers slightly due to the shoes being relatively narrow. Keep in mind that I am six feet plus and with my pack on I'm weighing in at about 215 pounds. I didn't hike anything steep enough that required me to use the ascent bar yet. I wouldn't trade them for another style unless I was doing all deep powder where I expect significant air pockets in the terrain. In my opinion, I don't think anything will help with air pockets. The other or standard style of snowshoes did have better flotation, but my wife was more prone to sliding down little hills where I step down the sides. The bindings are huge and I believe they can accommodate snowboard boots if I tried. My rank of 4 out of 5 is due to the compromise in flotation and the straps can be a little cumbersome to hook in. I would recommend these if you are expecting to traverse varying terrain.
I'm a 165 pound, 5'9" gal. I'm torn between the Men's 25" Lightening Ascent Snowshoe and the Women's 25" Lightening Ascent. Any input on how much difference the Women's design makes? Have tried the Women's but not the Men's. thanks!!
It all depends on where you find yourself snowshoeing. If you think you will be in powder consistently over 30" then I could see you going with the men's 25s. However I think you would be best served with women's shoe. When the development of the snowshoe was underway, Cascade Designs hired a doctor who's specialty was how women walked. What she discovered is that it was a mere inconvenience for men when it came to the width of the snowshoe, but anatomically uncomfortable for women. The most important attribute of a women's snowshoe, she discovered, was how narrow it was, allowing women to walk with their legs closer together. The MSR Women's Lightning and Lightning Ascent snowshoes are the narrowest on the market currently but still offer excellent float capabilities. They also offer the best traction of any snowshoe and are super durable. My recommendation would be the Women's Lightning Ascent 25s for you...
I love these snowshoes!!! They are bombproof... really well made. I use them on a daily basis from climbing the local mountain (2000ft in around two miles) and boarding down to romping around in deep fresh powder... They take me where I want to go in the winter and haven't let me down yet. Where my friends are using other shoes I'm leaving them in my dust (Or powder for that my matter). Highly recommend!
HI, I am a snowshoe virgin. I plan on buying some snowshoes for ascent of my local mountain so I can board down. from 7,500' to 9,000. I'm 5'11 and 185 lbs. I want something packable for the descents. Any Help would be much appreciated.
My brother uses these for the same thing. He has the 25" and is 5'10" about 180. With all his board gear the 25" do great. He packs them down on a Dakine Poacher pack. The televator heel lifter on the Lightning Ascents works very well for this. These are lighter than the Evo's especially since you may want to add the tails to the Evos.
The perfect snowshoe for this is the MSR Evo Ascent. The reasons include the binding will accomodate the large snowboard boots, has a bigger opening in the front of the shoe so the top of the boot won't hit it while walking up, it has the 'Heel Raiser' feature which makes climbing tremendously less stressful on the legs, it packs flat, and it's nearly indestructable when hiking over rocks and dirt. It will also give you an amazing amount of traction and will respond to every movement of your foot. I personally don't know of a better backcountry snowboarding snowshoe currently.
I used my MSR Lightning Ascent Snowshoes for the first time today. I climbed up the Wellsville Mountains in Northern Utah, I was totally surprised how well the shoes handled the steep terrain...I would recommend these shoes to anyone who values quality gear.
22 or 25? I am a male, 6'0" and 160 lbs. I like to run the descents and on the flats. Terrain will vary some but for the majority of my trekking I'll be on the trail. Which size?
I'm about the same height and weight and I usually go with the 25s. The lightnings don't give you quite as much flotation as a regular snow shoe so I would go with 25s.If you are spending the majority of the time on the trail then I would go with the 22's. Plus if you are a runner then you really want the shorter/lighter shoe. Now if you go off trail you will sink more, but if you are spending 70% of the time on trail the 25's will not benefit you that much
These are great all-around snow shoes but will flip the snow up your back when in deep stuff and when trans versing hills. The ascent feature is nice for steeep grades but not necessary for most everyday use.
Buying snowshoes that are shorter than you might need is NOT like buying a sleeping bag. You can always line a bag, put it in a bivy sack, etc., to increase the temp. range, but you CANNOT add to a snowshoe that is too short or lacks flotation (MSR flotation tails are the exception). Unless you buy MSR plastic shoes, then you're stuck with the size you have.....and I know from experience it's no fun post-holing backcountry all damn day - it's tiring and slows everyone up. Can't go wrong with the MSR plastic shoes, but I've seen two pairs break - one of them mine!
I purchased a 22-inch pair (currently 160 lbs) after renting a number of different brands. Clearly the best I've tried. I have the first model out with 2 strap bindings and they are great. I can only imagine the 3 strap binding will be as good or better. On hard pack and there is nothing better this side of a crampon. In deep powder everything is a challenge and there is little difference between climbing on these and my powder tele skis - descending is a different story! If you enjoy snowshoeing, grab a pair. They will really add to your experience. Durable? - I'd take these things anywhere.
I have been snowshoeing for more than four decades, beginning with wood and leather snowshoes, then aluminum tubular-frame snowshoes with a variety of deck materials and bindings. I recently bought some MSR Lightning 22â shoes (two-strap model without the Ascent heel support) and would like to report that they are by far the best snowshoes I have ever used. I weigh 165 lbs., and by the time Iâm outfitted with my day pack and gear the total weight is probably about 185 lbs. I live in Colorado and regularly hike a steep trail, usually untracked, and the snow can vary from a few inches deep to a few feet deep over the ~1500 foot climb. The Lightning snowshoes were extremely stable on flat areas, steep slopes (up, down and sideways), crusty snow, powder, packed, powder over crust, rocks, uneven slopes, tree roots, ice, you name it. With the vertical outer rim the Lightning shoes are so much less prone to slipping and sliding than the tubular-frame shoes, the difference is like night and day. They even were decent in deep snow, although the 25â model would have been better under those conditions, and 30â would be better yet for a large person with pack. If a person were cruising in relatively flat terrain (5% grade or less) with deep snow and a heavy pack, a more conventional snowshoe would probably be as good a choice. Once the terrain and snow becomes more steep and varied, though, these snowshoes really shine. I would recommend these snowshoes highly. The bindings are simple to use and secure. The 22â shoes are very light weight so they are barely noticeable when strapped to my pack. If I were in deep snow more frequently I would prefer the 25â model, but everything is a compromise and what would be gained in flotation with the longer shoes would be offset by less maneuverability and more weight (on your feet or on your pack). Plus, the short shoes also have the advantage that my dogs are less likely to step on the tails!
I wish they had teh 25 inch also, I chatted with BC and they said they did not have any on order. Using snowshoes with ski boots sucks more than anything I can think of.
30" of new champagne snow in the past two days here in NH. These floated just fine with 175 pounds on board. Just upgraded to these shoes after ten years of Tubbs. Binding is superior to Tubbs for anyone with big feet. I'm a size 14.5 and was surprised that my Koflach double boots worked at all with these snowshoes. In fact, they worked superbly! The three straps hold my big feet exactly where they need to be. Rotation is not hampered at all. Was expecting to need to cut the deck per MSR's instructions for people with big feet, but did not need to. The elevator is a nice touch. I've survived years without it, but I survived years without electric windows and air conditioning too. Now I have all three and will never give them up. Don't waste your money on other snow shoes -- buy these!
These shoes will fit any size snowboard boots from women's size 4 to men's 14. Very versatile.I have put someone with a size 16 street shoe .and it had room to spare. Most snowboard boot will fit in this binding. I have seen some people have problems with size 14 SB boots that are really bulky. Like DC's or Vans.
Hands down, the best shoes Ive ever had in the snow. Incredibly light-weight design yet very stout in terms of grabbing on steep or packed terrain. Simple binding system with very stout straps. The icing on the cake for me is the heel bar. I frequent the same snowshoe area that has lots of buttes and hills and they are "leg-killers" with my Atlas 1025's (no heel bar and fewer crampons). With the MSR LA's, I absolutley flew up the hills that usually take quite a while. For other peoples reference, I am 5'8", 179 and I use the 25 inch version, primarily for backcountry outings with 25-30 lb loads. The 22" version is perfect for daily outings. Pricey they are, but worth it when youre out in the snow. If you can find them on sale, dont let them get away. Highly recommended.
Do they come in 25 inch...I didn't see it listed. Also I understand that the women's version is narrower? I didn't see that there was a men's or women's version?
Mike: I'm looking for a MSR Lightning Ascent Snowshoe in the 25 inch size. It says your out..do you know if any more will be in soon?Brie: Hello MikeBrie: Let me check on that for you, just a moment pleaseBrie: we are not getting any more in, unfortunately.Mike: bummerMike: like forever? or just in the near future? Brie: for the time being atleast. we may be getting more in the new year but I can't guarantee that
Okay there are a lot of things that are great with these snowshoes. They are light, the traction is superb, the frame and deck are durable and stiff, easy to get on and off, narrow enough to walk like a normal human and the length is perfect for holding you up in the fresh pow pow of Utah's light snow. The bad, they rust if you don't dry them off, the straps don't stay under the hook device and the straps tend to snap after about 10-15 uses.
Jeff and Karen love these awesome snowshoe's. Never lost traction in Utah's steep backcountry! A must buy for anyone wanting to go out and not have any Issue with gear failure...
Great construction, durable, frame and deck, better traction, and the highest ascent bar out there all combine to make these the best snowshoes on the market. Plus, they're made in the USA!
These were my purchase of choice after trying out several pairs...sweet. Light as a feather, grip like a bear paw, and not wide as a pontoon boat (I really hate stompin on my own feet). Not to mention they float pretty well in the deep stuff and climb. If you're lookin for a pair of shoes for the long haul, worth the extra investment.
These are so light, and they have a four way crampon for maximum traction. The step in on them will fit a snowboard boot easy. The straps are so easy to use. Most snowshoes make you feel awkward when you hike in deep snow in them, but not these, I could get a good pace going and not have to stop or worry about my feet. The climbing bars works great on the steeps. Great over all snowshoe.
These snowshoes work great for what they were designed for. They will climb up steep slopes with ease giving you great protection from any slipping or sliding. However, these shoes are fer less than efficient in extremely deep powder. If there isn't a proper crust on the snow you are walking on they tend to sink. But overall I think that if you choose more carefully where you walk that can be worked around, as these shoes are unmatched for their ability to climb and slip resistance.
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