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MSR made the Hubba Hubba HP 2-Person 3-Season Tent with a super lightweight fabric that cuts weight down to 3lb 11oz. Plus, this fabric adds durability to the tent, and water-and UV-proof protection to the fly. You might think a tent that light would be quite cramped. On the contrary, the Hubba Hubba HP's hub-and-swivel pole design creates enough room for both people to sit up comfortably near each end of the tent. Two doors eliminate middle-of-the-night crawl-overs. Pitch just the fly and footprint (footprint sold separately) on summer desert trips, and pack the HP's body and fly for wet spring and fall camping.
The company McNett makes Marizyme and can be found usually at most outdoor gear stores. If you don't have one in you area, online is a great place to find and order it. Here is the link to McNett that has a dealer look-up link (http://www.mcnett.com/MiraZyme-Enzyme-Based-Odor-Eliminator-P170.aspx). Hopefully this helps!
i just retired my MSR Hubba Hubba after years of hard usage. all around a good tent its been with me on trips ranging from the AT to a island in the middle of the ocean. its more roomy than most two person tents i have slept in, i was even able to fit three on occasion though my friend in the middle felt a little awkward. while on the AT we experienced a harsh thunder storm with heavy rain and strong wind for over what felt like the whole night. the tent held up very well with only a little drop of water on my forehead towards the end. the first thing to mess up on this tent was one of the poles however with the help of duck-tape it managed to last two more trips before snapping. the HP looks awesome and i would like to buy it however i do feel MSR tends to over price. the only other negative i could think of is when packing i would usually not be able to pack the poles along with the tent in the stuff sack however, i believe the HP has fixed this problem by replacing most of the mesh with a synthetic fabric.
The thing to note with the increase of price compared to the Hubba Hubba are the materials. The Hubba Hubba HP uses 20D, 330 Thread-count material usually associated with high end sleeping bags and clothing, compared to nylon no-see-um mesh (not nearly as wind resistant or durable) and 40D 220 Thread-count fly material (heavier and a more stiff hand) for the standard Hubba Hubba. The Hubba Hubba HP uses by far the most expensive material MSR has ever used on a tent! It actually feels like silk, but has incredible tensile strength. It also allows it to be 4oz. light than the Hubba Hubba but more weatherproof. These materials have passed the strict antiquated fire retardancy rules that plague the tent industry. To see and feel it is to believe it. Highly recommended!
I'd like to know how to properly wash my MSR Hubba tent? It says to never wash in a top-loading washing machine, but my fellow hiker washed his in a top-loading machine and just let it dry outside after setting up... PLEASE HELP!!!! Thanks
The problem with washing your tent in a washing machine (especially in a oscillating machine) is it could do some serious damage to the tent due to the soaps and violent cycles (a washing machine doesn't know when to quit:)). I know you mentioned your friend used a front loading machine, which is much better, but there could still be risks damaging the materials and construction. NEVER put it in the dryer!
There are many different ways of cleaning your tent. One way is hosing it down (or hand washing it outside), finding the dirt marks that won't wash off, and, using a nylon brush, lightly scrub them away. If you have traces of mildew or a particularly smelly tent, soaking it in a solution of Marizyme (a product that uses active enzymes to eat away mildew) is your best option.
The thing that fails the most on tents are the zippers and the Hubba Hubba is not immune to this. If you've been in a sandy or windy environment with lots of dust in the air, maintaining the zippers is critical. My recommendation here is to clean the zipper with a mild soap and nylon brush and then lube them with a silicon (can find tubes of this in hardware stores). Silicone won't attract as much dirt as wax and is much less toxic to the plastic teeth than other types of lube. Silicon will create far less friction for the slider as you zip it up and down.
Simply put, by hand washing using a soft nylon brush, soaking it down with mild detergent (dishwashing soap), Nikwax Tech Wash or similar soap, etc, and then maintaining the zippers as described above will help keep your tent clean and well maintained for many years to come. I know this is takes much more effort than using a washing machine, but you will have far more piece of mind and much less risk in damaging your investment.
this tent is better than the msr hubba hubba for several reasone 1) it's Vestibule Space is bigger, 2)it has less mesh, and more fabric to keep out the elements3) it weighs less, 4)it can be used eather by a two walled tent or just the fly,poles, and stakes
The tent layout and design is the same. The Hubba Hubba has mesh walls, with just the floor and the diamond at the top of the tent being solid material. The Hubba Hubba HP has replaced a lot of the mesh with lightweight solid fabric.
They don't say much about the newer material but it has changed to a "technical fabric" which apparently shaves ounces and provides more protection from snow, sand, and wind. Everything else is basically the same.
even before the upgrade, when it was just mesh, the tent was great! I took it on several hikes ranging from 4 to 6 days up in Tahoe both solo and with my sister before taking it on a 17 day hike on the JMT. The tent is roomy, well made and performed as expected keeping me warm and dry. It also held up to the craziest wind storm I have ever experienced where I thought for sure it would get ripped to shreds! To cut down on trail weight while solo hiking, I ditched the tent portion and just hiked with the rain cover, poles and footprint and woke up warm and dry every morning. Having two side doors and two vestibules are convenient or both access and storing gear when hiking with two people. While on the JMT I joined up with a group of avid trail hikers who had all through hiked the PCT and everyone in the group had the MSR Hubba!
No, but you can either make your own or purchase it separately: http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/MSR-Hubba-Hubba-HP-Footprint/CAS0355M.html?RSC_ID=WR_CAS0355
Probably one of the best 3-season tents I have ever owned. Iâve used it several times now including twice in early spring on Emory Peak in Big Bend. It holds up great in rain and hard wind. I like the entire mesh top, opposed from the HP, because on nice nights you can view the stars without being bothered by insects. It's the closest thing to being tent-less. Now that being said, this is not the warmest tent, it keeps out the wind and rain but you better have a good sleeping bag; the design however helps keep condensation almost 99% out of the tent when wearing the fly and allows good circulation. After I got it dirty on trips it was very easy to clean with just warm water and sunlight. I do suggest the footprint though and maybe some ground hog stakes if you are going to be in harsher elements.
One thing I would've liked to see in this (and other tents) would be at least one poly window on at least one vestibule of the fly. This is just my preference.
I know this is an expensive tent but it is priceless on hot and humid trips where you canât hang a hammock or sleep near a fire in the open. Itâs light enough for me to carry on my own but roomy enough for two 6â people to sleep comfortably.
i bought this tent from backcountry and have been very satisfied with it. however, i made a rookie mistake a few weeks ago: after using it on a rainy trip on mt rogers i did not take it out of the stuff sack and let it dry for three weeks. now i took it out and it has some small purple spots and small black spots all over it. my friends say it's mildew. anyone know what i should do?
Thanks for this very helpful information. Also NEVER wash your tent in a top loading washing machine. It could remove the polyurethane coating rendering the tent worthless in rain.
i got an answer to my own question if anyone is curious. i contacted cascade design and they told me what to do to get the mold off: 1. take one cup of lysol to one gallon hot water. sponge all over mold parts. Let dry. 2. take one cup salt to one cup lemon juice to one gallon water. sponge all over tent. Let dry. Hose it off.
This is a pretty awesome tent! It is large and roomy for a two person. The high point of the tent is in the middle, so it is easy to move around in. I've slept through multiple rain storms in this tent, and have never had an issue with water leaking. It is a very lightweight tent though, and can rip easily, so be careful with it! My only complaint is that the gear loft is too tight, and anything you put up there just falls right out. The pockets on the sides are similarly hard to use.
Herman, a fair description of the fly would be pensky yellow or as a construction yellow. Absolutely great tent. Ccpy and past the following address. Hope this helps. http://cascadedesigns.com/MSR/Tents/Fast-And-Light-Tents/Hubba-Hubba-HP/product#photo_2
After almost six years of frequent (30+ nights/year) use, my MSR Sidewinder had to be retired due to a leaky floor and zipper failure. Because it was essentially beyond repair, MSR offered me a deal on a new tent, and I purchased the Hubba Hubba at cost. I recently used it for a week in Yellowstone, where temperatures were mild at night and there was little wind or precipitation. That said, I can't comment on how well the tent holds up in adverse conditions, but I can say I've been very pleased with it in terms of set-up, design and overall quality. The single-pole arrangement was a little confusing at first -- it's a little awkward extending all of the sections -- but when I discovered how incredibly fast the set-up is, I was sold. I especially like the fact that there is no pushing of poles through tent fabric, which was always an exercise in frustration with other tents. My biggest complaint is that the tent doesn't come with an attic, a feature I adored with the Sidewinder. Even more annoying is the fact that the stand-alone attic isn't compatible with the Hubba Hubba. That said, I've been able to make due pretty well with the pockets at either end of the tent (although I wish they were a little deeper so they'd hold more gear). I also find the tent a bit hard to get in and out of with the rainfly attached, due to the fact that one corner of the fly must be staked to the ground. I also should note, however, that I have yet to use the Hubba Hubba in the backcountry. When I do, I expect to appreciate its minimalist design when it's in my pack.
My question is how waterproof this tent is. Living in tacoma washington it rains about 8 months a year. i need something that can take a torrential downpour and still keep me dry
I camped through a few rain showers, I never woke up wet even after a couple small hole repairs. None of the storms were really heavy downpours though.
It has a good tub flooring but I would strongly suggest the footprint which not only adds durability but helps it sit above some of the ground moisture and prevent condensation pooling.
The Hubba HP is very waterproof. Just be aware that almost everything will leak over sustained periods of rainfall. If you're using this tent the way it is intended to be used, you'll be just fine. Even in the northwest, the sun does come out every once in awhile! After a few years, you might want to spray it with Nikwax Gear & Tent Proof just to keep it honest.
Yes. This tent is so painlessly easy for me to setup, I almost feel like it should be harder. When it comes to MSR getting your $450 vs. you getting this tent, you're totally getting the better end of the deal.You have to decide if 3 ounces less weight is worth $150!
1 Comment Last Comment: September 5, 2009 by: Jason Livingston
By: Jason Livingston
September 5, 2009
The thing to note with the increase of price compared to the Hubba Hubba are the materials. The Hubba Hubba HP uses 20D, 330 Thread-count material usually associated with high end sleeping bags and clothing, compared to nylon no-see-um mesh (not nearly as wind resistant or durable) and 40D 220 Thread-count fly material (heavier and a more stiff hand) for the standard Hubba Hubba. The Hubba Hubba HP uses by far the most expensive material MSR has ever used on a tent! It actually feels like silk, but has incredible tensile strength. It also allows it to be 4oz. light than the Hubba Hubba but more weatherproof. These materials have passed the strict antiquated fire retardancy rules that plague the tent industry. To see and feel it is to believe it. Highly recommended!
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