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If you are going to use this kind of stake you need the rope to pull it out in hard grround otherwise they are tough to get out. thats why these are nice.
If you are going to use this kind of stake you need the rope to pull it out in hard grround otherwise they are tough to get out. thats why these are nice.
I've got the TNF version of this style of stakes (two planes at 90 degrees making a V) and either the guyline you've attached to it or a twig/branch work just as well to pull them out no problem. I have to believe the same theory would work on these 3 spine stakes.
are these good for rocky or frozen ground?? anyone have experience trying to pound these into tough ground?? would these be better for rocky or frozen ground than the north face (v shape, 10pk) listed on this site?? thanks
I have these and love them as I've yet to bend, even after pounding into hard ground or hard ground frozen in winter. Can't say much about the TNF's V shape as I haven't used them.
I bought these stakes because someone had warned me that when I purchased my MSR Hubba Hubba it would only come with 7 instead of 8. Unlike the other reviewers, the tent I recevied had all 8 stakes but I was glad I bought these in the end. Even though they are the same company, these are a much higher quality stakes and I prefer using these to the ones that were included. They are MUCH beefier but still very lightweight. It never hurts to have extra stakes so buy these!
Love'em, they are what they claim to be, you can beat'em and they won't bend... They are not sharp on the top, so if your have a need to walk around barefoot in your campsite be careful of the rocks, sticks and knives, not these stakes.
Will not bend when common sense tells me to use my boot to get this stake into the ground. I will never use the titanium / aluminum pegs again. Buy one set and you should not have to replace them. Love the red color too, be smart, buy these, save yourself the headache.
Has anyone got any expereince with these as it compares to the North Face ones that are similar to these. There are two noticible differences and I'm wondering if there is more I should consider:
1. The North Face ones have 2 spines while these have 3 I would think these would be stronger
2. The North Face ones appear to have more of a hook on the top which may hold rope better. My primary use is for a rain tarp.
I would think the 3rd spine would make these a bit stronger than the TNF stakes, that and they're a snazzy red vs. the plain metal of the TNF stakes. The only counterpoints I can think of are that the TNF stakes might be just a teeny bit lighter, they nest together considering their V shape and the per-stake price on TNF is something like $.30 cheaper? Personally i've hammered in the TNF stakes into a variety of ground and haven't felt like they were in danger of going wonky on me.
We used both on a recent backpacking trip in New Mexico. The MSR's were much nicer to use than TNF stakes. The string on the MSR's is nice but I did not use it much, just grabbed the top of the stake and pulled it right out. The North Face stakes tended to want to twist as they encountered rocks in the desert soil, but the MSR's held solid in all soil conditions and weather. Pick up a set once they are back in stock.
I haven't used the TNF stakes, but as far as the "hook" on the MSRs... They are notched at the top of all three sides of the stake which will hold parachute cord hitched to the stake. If you're using larger rope you'd need to need to run it through the cord pull loops.
I can attest to the comments made regarding the overall strength of these stakes. Despite their light weight, they are solid - trust me. I've driven these into rock laden ground with a chunk of granite and they didn't bend.
Ultralight, dig tight in the ground, durable, and I love the cord at the top for easy removal from the ground. They don't move unless you want them to.
The best stakes I've ever used. Hold tight, light, and reflective cord on the top is great for not stubbing toes at night. Don't set up you home without them.
Pound them in with a rock, and you won't bend them. They hold surprisingly well in sand. They pull out pretty easily. I'll buy another set for every new tent I get.
In sand tie the rope in the center of the peg and bury the pegs tightly in the sand lengthwise (make a T shape with the rope and stake) and they'll work wonderfully
Probably depends where on the beach you're pitching. When I floated Desolation Canyon, over half of my tent sites were on sand, and I was surprised by how well they held. But if you're on loose dune sand, you'll probably need deadmen.
They're only about 8 inches long at best, and though they are bomber stakes in solid ground, I just don't think they're long enough for something loose like sand, especially not in that kind of wind.
I used these on Shasta, and they worked fine in the snow, however, I packed snow on top so they didn't pull out, and there were no high winds. They are slightly bigger than the stakes that came with my BD Firstlight tent.
Best stakes I have ever used. These are strong, will not bend or splinter. Cord pulls are a super feature. They do not take up space. These are the ultimate answer to stake issues.
While these are strong, ouch when I cut my bare feet on the VERY sharp tops. Wear shoes or, better yet, use a round-top stake (Easton/Mountain Hardwear). Happy Camping!
1 Comment Last Comment: January 25, 2010 by: Craig Kopasz
By: Craig Kopasz
January 25, 2010
Don't need the rope, gets in the way. Just use the hooks on another stake to hook the one in the ground and pull out.
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