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Upgrade your camping stove with the MSR Fuel Pump. Durable fiberglass-reinforced polymer material doubles the pump strength while keeping down overall weight. MSR's innovative valve improves flame control, so you get a more precise flame for your MSR liquid-fuel stoves.
Bottom Line: Replace your old and failing MSR liquid-fuel stove pump with MSR's lightweight, efficient Fuel Pump.
The pump has been great for me. I have used it in bitter cold and hot weather. No problems. I do perform periodic preventative maintenance and corrective servcie. (PMCS).
I bought a whisperlite about a year ago and I think it has an old pump, it doesn't look like the one in the picture, it has a small aluminum dial for flow control not the big red plastic knob, and it has two plastic white tubes and doesn't have the right angle like the one in the pic. Am I right, do I have an old pump?? and if so is there any way I can get msr to replace it with a new one?? Even if it is an old one is there any reason for me to upgrade the one I've got (works fine by the way)?? I only cook simple meals that require boiling water, oatmeal, tea, pasta side dishes etc. thanks
There are some compelling reasons why you would want to buy the new pump, but it isn't necessary. If the old pump is working then there's really no need to replace it. I would give the old pump a thorough inspection most especially looking at the O-rings (the big O-ring where the pump screws into the fuel bottle is the most critical). If you see any cracking of the rubber or any cracks on the pump itself I would replace it. This is not a warranty issue since it's most likely due to normal use. If you suspect it is a warranty issue, call Cascade Designs at (800) 505-9500 and they will issue you a Return Authorization Number. You will need to send it back and, after they inspect it, determine that it isn't a warranty issue then they will repair it for a reasonable fee. They can help you over the phone if you have specific questions...
The new pump will allow you to simmer better (not like a canister stove, but gives you one full rotation of adjustment vs. the old pump that gives you no rotation adjustment). It's also much more durable, won't spray fuel when you release the pressure after unscrewing it, and is much easier to maintain (no leather plunger). It also comes with a new windscreen which is a $10 value.
My opinion is the $35 for the new pump is money well spent and will upgrade your stove to the latest version of the Whisperlite. The most resent updates to the Whisperlite have to do entirely with the pump, not the stove.
I got my whisperlite int'l 2 years ago and it has this pump in it. Perhaps your stove is older? Either way, unless there is something wrong with it, I don't think you need to replace. I don't think MSR will do it for you either, especially if the one you have now works. Look at the Q & A below this for the advantages of the new pump.
I have a MSR Whsiperlite, with the original fuel pump, but the plastic part, I think is called the "ears", that holds the actual pump broke. Can I still use it since all it does is hold it in place or will fuel leak out?
I would recommend getting a new pump. If anything is broken on the original pump it should be considered unserviceable and discarded. The reason is you are dealing with a very volatile fuel (white gas) and fire. If any of the fuel leaks out or the pump doesn't seal properly to the stove, you risk having the whole thing light up like a Christmas tree. I've seen it and it's not pretty. There are some neat advantages in getting the new pump anyway. For one, it's more durable. Two, it gives you better simmering capability, and three, it comes with a brand new windscreen. It's well worth the money and will update your Whisperlite significantly. It is one of the few upgrades that is strongly recommended. The Standard Pump is what you want...
This is an improved design over the old standard. The newly designed valve adds flame control especially when simmering. The plastic material is just as substantial as aluminum, used by other manufacturers, only lighter. Good pump seal. Needs occasional lubrication.
I have the dragonfly and have used maybe 4 or 5 times in the past couple years-it has worked really well. Until... Last time I was out and the plunger was not sealing and thus not pressurizing the canister when pumped.
I figure I can buy this dragonfly replacement pump OR would you suggest I try to find a replacement plunger seal first? I think there is a replacement kit but its about the same price as the new pump. What do you suggest? Thanks!
Before you start replacing parts or the entire pump, apply a small amount of petroleum jelly on the pump leather. This is the part on the end of the plunger that actually forces air in to the fuel bottle. Work the pt in, remove any excess, then pump until you get the air flowing again. The next step would be to replace the rubber o-ring where the plunger seals @ the fuel bottle. This part normally doesn't need to be replaced unless it becomes brittle or cracked.
I have a Sigg firejet stove. The pump isn't working anymore. Could someone tell me if the MSR fuel pump will work with the gas line from the pump to the stove?
The best thing to do would be to take your stove to a store that sell MSR products & see if the pump is interchangeable. Take along your empty fuel bottle to make sure the threads are also compatible.
The fuel intake on the replacement pump appears a have a fixed radius from the pump axis, which would indicate that it is designed for only one size bottle, and/or might not scavenge all the fuel. Useful info on this point will be appreciated.
What I believe you're seeing and referring to in the picture is not the fuel intake but the check valve. If you look closely, you will see a part of the fuel uptake tube on the left (more visible on the Dragonfly pump pic). This flexible line rests on the bottom of the fuel bottle, regardless of MSR fuel bottle size, when aligned for stove use. Because of this setup, less than 1/2tsp of fuel remains unused, at least in my experience, and I am neither careful nor particularly conscientious of the fuel bottle's placement on the ground.
If you are using an MSR liquid fuel stove/canister then you have to have this pump. It is not the most fun device, but it gets the job done. Just expect to get some fuel on yourself.
Am I doing something wrong with the new MSR pump? I've installed it and it leaks like a seive when the bottle is upside down. The valve is closed, the red seal is tight. The only thing left is the pump cup right? This is rubbery and seems to be free of defects. I've always used my old school gray pump, so this is new for me. Thanks
I've never had a problem with it and use it all the time. Figure out where it's leaking from and check that that part's secure, and you might want to just pony up for a new one. Leaking fuel is not a risk worth $35.
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I am very disapointed in this product I paid over $40 and it did not work. I got it the day before the hike and I did not have chance to check it out first. When I took it out to use it no fuel would go to the stove. The pressure would build up in the bottle and fuel would go in the fuel line but no fuel to stove. I did take it apart to see what could be wrong. I found a lot of red plastic chips. I cleaned it out put back together and it still did not work. Thanks GOD one of the other hikers had a stove that we used. I have one of the older pumps and it works great, but it was back in CT. That is why I picked this new pump up, just for this hike out here in TX.
This is a perfect example of why a person should always field test any item that could possibly fail before departing on a trip. Even a canister stove, water filter, etc. needs be be thoroughly inspected & tested prior to embarking.
John - don't blame MSR or the pump! There is a good chance your fuel line or jet was clogged. MSR (thank GOD...er, the people at MSR?) puts the necessary tools and replacement parts in the little bag each stove comes in. They even have really simple, picture by picture directions for the necessary field maintenance. I'm certain your problem could have been solved by (1) checking your equipment before departing into the backcountry and/or (2) RTFD explaining the field maintenance. The red plastic chips are actually the color coded coating on the O-rings so you know where to put what. Hope you're new cooking system works out for you!
This pump works by pumping air in, not fuel out. Since air or gaseous fuel is much more compressible than liquid fuel, it will take longer to pressurize the emptier it gets. Seems like filling the fuel back up would tell you whether that was the problem, otherwise it's probably broken. Make sure it's screwed on right too. You will also want to be sure that the internal fuel cup in the pump is lubricated - pull it apart and put a bit of oil or spit on it to make sure it's making a good seal.
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