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As you speed down the face of the Park City Superpipe wearing your Lib Tech NAS Park Alpine Skis, you gently consider the beauty of Magne-Traction edges that give you unheard of edge-hold performance. As your lips flap in the wind due to your extreme velocity, you ponder the dampening and poppy fiberglass layers that sweetly compliment the wood core of your Lib Tech Narrow Ass Snowboards. You contemplate the slightly narrow dimensions underfoot that keep you nimble as you shoot up the other side of the pipe. And your final thought before rocketing into outerspace beyond the pull of Earth's gravity is “I wonder if there will ever be another ski as rad as this one.”
Bottom Line: It was nice knowin' you. Can we have your stuff?
If you want an honest answer, not that good at all. They're way too narrow to be good in any significant amount of new snow. 84 underfoot and only 113 at the nose. You're going to sink a lot in anything over 6" of new snow. There isn't really a park ski that is good in powder, they're completely different skis. If you're doing both extensively then I suggest picking up two pairs of skis. If not then you'll be fine with an occasional off-piste run.
Remember! parabolic skis already have 4 contact points and the reason magnitration was invented was to give snowboarders more than 2 contact points... ok, stay with me... if you want to float powder, ride a snowboard because it will have a bigger footprint than any ski... if you want to ride rails, buy the cheapest twin tip you can find because you will destroy them... if you want 2 hit jumps, buy something big and stiff so it will hold high speeds and pop hard... and if you want to do all of the above buy at least one pair of everything. NO true skier or boarder is truly prepared without 3 different setups. YES it is expensive but remember this is not a sport it is a way of life, stop trying to buy one size fits all gear from sky mall.
I just bought em now, and was wondering since recommended mounting was set back, i do about 95% park and was wondering if i can center mount em, i know it can mess up the magnetraction but would i notice it? cheers
It would be a pretty big mess up to the magnatraction. I tried them, and I noticed that when they are center mounted, it felt even more awkward than normal magnatraction. I would say that the better ride normal overrides the better ride switch, and to mount them at the recommended, or maybe a little further forward.
im 6ft 145lbs, do 65% jumps 35% rails, 90% park 10% groomers. Would i go for the 181 or 173, almost garunteed to go on the 173 but also wondering how lib techs edges hold up to abuse.
I would almost say that you want the longer ski, for landings and all that jazz, but if you are dead set on the 173, I won't argue. As for the durability, they will hold up for years to come.
Does anyone have an opinion regarding telemark skiing on these skis? I have a pair, and need a good back country, all around ski. Should I sell the lib techs or mount them with tele bindings?
Teleskiing these things is cool. I definitely wouldn't recommend a soft binding, though. Hammerheads are perfect for them. You could put some Bishops on there...if you HAVE to...Bishops are just...well...they're for Teleskiers who think they need to beat alpine skiers, and the rest of us chill, layed-back free heelers know that gear is only as good as the skier. That being said, Hammerheads kick ass, and you can always get the stiffy springs. Hammerheads don't break like Bishops, and they cost half as much. As far as mounting goes, put the end of the wings on the binders at the center magne-traction 'bump' for optimal control.
Hi. As part of Lib Tech's marketing design for this NAS (Narrow Ass Snowboard) they say that you buy one narrow snowboard..i.e. Ski (for a premium price, around what you pay for 1 pair of skis...$698.95), and since you can't just ride 1 individual ski they will give you a 2nd for free. So, to sum that up, you buy 1 ski for $698.95 and you get 2nd ski for free.... To save you a headache backcountry.com just made it easier and sells the pair for one retail price!
I noticed that the tips of the jib nas are very low; are these tips any higher? I'm concerned about being able to ski through thick crud and soft-snow days on the groomers
The low tips won't effect sking in pow or crud, line elizebeths, bacons, and prophets all have fairly low tips and they are powder skis, same with salomons pocketrocket.
in CM: 12/8.6/11.3The manufacturer's catalog can be found online (just copy/paste): http://www.libtechnas.com/This has dimensions, explanation of the recurve, and fun propaganda.They updated this recently (November 2008), so check it out.These are actually called the Pipe NAS (not park) by the mfgr.
They require you to mount them at the midsole (The boot center will be aligned with the narrowest part of the ski, or in this case with magnetraction, aligned with the center of the **largest** bump); which is farther forward on this ski than even most park skis. Mounting ahead or behind the midsole messes up the bumps. So no, but almost.
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