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We gave Liberty a season to lock it down, and now we’re proud to welcome the one-ski-quiver Helix into our lineup. This ski gets killer reviews from every angle, and with good reason—it’s great everywhere you take it, slashing down tight trees and straightlining tight chutes with equal ease, or even spinning 5’s on a quick lap through the terrain park. At 105 underfoot, the Helix is no waspy corduroy-cutter, and it’s not a park/pipe ski, but the laminated bamboo core and angled traditional sidewalls keep it surprisingly light and poppy considering its ample figure. From choppy crud to groomers, and especially in powder, the Helix has that special something you don’t see every season. Think sumo wrestler in space, killer whale on fen-phen, or helium-filled battleship, and you’ll get a decent idea of how this ski performs. If you still aren’t impressed, get this: the bamboo and poplar core is eco-friendly, and the company offsets all its energy use with wind power. Let’s just say we like ‘em a lot.
Bottom Line: Life, the Liberty Helix, and the pursuit of happiness.
I've been skiing pretty consistently for the last 4-5 years mostly at Mt. Baker in Washington but sometimes up at Whistler. I've been on some really old atomic carvers and would like to go to something that will serve me better on the steeper runs and deep snow. My main holdback in the past has been a lack of partners to ski with but now that I am at college I have found some people to ski with who are at my level and would like to get a ski so that I don't sink when all my friends float but can still go all over the mountain. I've been looking at these helixes and the gotamas and the prophets. Any recommendations for other skis or which of these would be best?
I don't think you can go wrong with any of these. I've always heard great things about the Gotamas and it is always well reviewed but I can't speak to it myself. I have a pair of Line skis and they are great, the Prophets are a solid ski. The Helix has more flex than the Prophets so if you like your skis stiff go for those. I've heard lots of good things about these Helix's - from some ski instructor friends. What you should really do, is check Tramdock.com for the Helix skis to pop up again - they were like $250 - that's a decision maker right there. :) (Check out TramAttack.com for Tramdock history...)
These skis are pretty nice skis, and can definitely handle the whole mountain. The Prophet 100's would be another good option, but a little less float. Gotamas are sweet skis, everyone loves them, including me. As another option I would suggest the K2 ObSethed, the rocker helps you float so much, and still handles hardpack and groomers like a carver, with a little chatter though. I would say that these, or the K2 are the best options, then the Gotama, then the Prophets.
First trip out with 13 inches new on top of a really soft base thanks to some of the greatest spring storms ever. Loved them in the powder. They felt light, quick and could turn effortlessly at any speed even after the snow was getting tracked out. Next time out was with only about 3 inches of new snow, but the crud was still a lot of fun on these skis. My only compliant was on groomers. If your not at mach 2 arching big GS turns, these skis will really make you work for your turns. Slow speed, short turns are not what the Helix likes to do. You can muscle them around, but they bite back the whole time. I'm keeping these for powder days, but without a fair amount new snow I'll be back on my Scott Mission's.
First off, I have been skiing on a pair of Helix 187's all season long and OMG they are the best ski ever made [or at least that I have been on]. For anyone reading this thread for info, they are stable, powerful, floaty [pow], grippy [hardpack], light, playfull, etc....I am thinking of buying another pair for a telemark setup. Does anyone have an opinion on if it will be the best TELE ski ever as well?
Liberty helix or Rossi s6I want a ski for the back bowls some times untracked mostly cut up.I do like a light ski also I go into tight trees to find fresh so making quick turns when needed is good. Any thoughts ? Also my daily driver is a Fisher watea 94 . Thanks
I would go rossie--- fatter, quicker, one of the best non-rockered powder skis out there and just a real fun ski all over the mountain not just in pow.
I picked up a pair of last year's helix, and Oh My God. These flipping rip. They are so stable at speed, bust up the crud, float well, yet are suprisingly nimble on the groomers. Such daily driver for skiing out west. The bamboo core is awesome. Lightweight, but don't ski lightweight. BUY THESE SKIS and there is no way you'll be disapointed.
Any mounting suggestions for Dynafit TLT Verticals on these boards? I have them o nthe bench right now and think I'm going to wait a bit till I drill them. Any suggestions would be great. This ski will fill my "long tours" spot in my quiever. Thanks...
If you mount a Dynafit, first find the balance point of the ski and see where your boot center would be by lining the front holes of the boots with this point. Your boot midsole should be behind the standard mark on the ski. Then measure the distance between your boot center and the standard mounting point on the ski and divide by 2. Then put your midsole of your boot forward 1/2 the distance you measure, and it should be where it would go. It works great if you do this because then you are close to the pivot or balance point of the ski, which is recommended for dynafit, and close to the standard mounting point for your boot midsole. If you have any questions, email me at rene@libertyskis.ca. I have mounted a few of those with dynafits and find this is what works best. If you are a 26.5, your boot midsole would be about 2cm behind the standard mounting point and your toes would be about 2cm in front of the balance point of the ski. Great skis to be mounted with a Dynafit as they are so light. Cheers
Rocked these skis during the record breaking 07/08 winter and couldn't be more pleased. Carves on ice and groomers, cuts through crud like butter, nibble through the trees, responsive float through deep pow, and luvs pillow drops. Did i mention how versatile these skis are? If ure skiing gotamas or jsut see everyone skiing them, then u MUST try out the Helix....similiar shape plus sustainablilty of bamboo, 100% windpower, faster base, stronger sidewalls, and piles-o-luv throughout. I'm looking at getting a pair of the double Helix next!
willie this is the last question I'm ever going to ask. How much will I notice the 105mm waist on groomers, crud etc.? My last ski was a 90mm and so I thought going to the prophet 100 was pretty big so how about 105mm?-last question i swear
You won' t notice the width at all, just the extra stability and dampness they provide. I went from a 90 waisted ski to a 115 waisted ski and was blown away that to me they felt the same on groomers, but floated like a battleship in pow.
Digs is right! I just stepped into the Helix a couple weeks ago and they rock! Light and poppy yet stable and solid. They love to be skiied . . . all conditions . . . they perform like a Town Car in powder. I immediately knew I had to have them and will be riding them within the week. Do yourself a favor and check 'em out! Liberty!!!
is it more or less stiff then the prophet, and will i notice the the extra 5mm at the waist compared to the prophet 100? also where do you suggest i mount? still going with the jester and planning on getting the 187cm. oh yeah and how do they do skiing backwards and landing backwards (noticed they have a slightly skinier tail...)? wow it seems like im never out of quesitons... speaking of which just to clarify, definately an all mountain ski?-your the best willie
It is softer then the prophet, no metal in it, it will ski fine switch as it is not as a directional ski as the 100, I don't know the mounting point of it, but you could shoot an E-MAIL to liberty and they would let you know, I would go 4-6cm back from center to make it a better all mountain carver, deff an all-mountain ski, have fun.-once again gracias willie
This ski is absolutely killer. 105 underfoot makes it float plenty well in powder, while still keeping it narrow enough to rip groomers, park, and blow through crud. The bamboo core is the poppiest core I've ever skied. It's really playful, agile, and just pops. Mine are mounted 2cm behind center. I've used them on everything from BC jumps, to steep pow, to the park and they worked well.
guess what willie, i've found another ski to look at. im really liking the helix. it seems like a softer more playful ski than the prophet, also lighter (bout 250g). thing is im wondering if they are gona hold up as well on groomers, crud etc. and at high speeds. also turn radius mean much? 18.9m 100 to 25.5m helix. i'ver narrowed it down to this and the prophet.
Hi henry- The helix is a great ski, i didn't suggest it because, when you were looking at the kung fujus i thought you were going thinner, you are correct it is a lighter more playful ski then the prophet, Powder mag has been raving about this ski for 2 years, and nobody has caught on yet, kind of like line skis until k2 bought them 2 years ago, now everyone is interested, they rip groomers and blast crud, they are not as quick as the prophet because of the turn radius, but you won't notice to much difference because their softer and livelier because of the bambo core, great choice. I would buy these over the prophets in a heartbeat, why more fun ski.
I can say that i have skied the P4 and totally loved it. they look similar. and i am impressed with the eco-friendly aspect of the Helix. i don't think you can go wrong. so with many days on the P4 i can stand behind them, that said i am all about trying new skis (adding) The p4 is a good ski but i had some things about it i did not like, its heavy, the tips are stiffer then the tails which is good for busting crud but felt like they wanted to washout at times, also it does not feel like other twintips, what i mean by that is that it feels like a convectional ski that happens to have a raised tail. The helix is super light and playful, with a lot of energy do to the bambo core.imo they blow the p4,s out of water. But it boils down to how you like your skis to feel, if you want a ski that feels like a gs ski, damp, but solid go p4, but if you want a playful, lively ski,that goes anywhere including park go helix.^ I demoed both of these (actually I borrowed a friend's Helix, but I demoed the P4) and they are both awesome. The Helix has a faster camber/decamber response, and I find that I can ski it better, faster, longer in the powder. The P4 was a little stiff for me (I weigh about 175) at the tip and tails. The Helix held the edge when I was out of the powder. You probably can't go wrong with either one, but I like the Helix better.
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