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Forget about planks that leave you on your ass in manky snow. The Karhu Team 100 Telemark Ski plows through choppy snow at high speeds and the 134/100/125mm dimensions provide sweet float on face-shot days. This twintip ski’s Die-Cut Titanal construction uses a V-shape that adds power where you need it, reduces weight where you don’t, and increases energy transmission to the edges for a smooth, powerful ride. The progressive big-mountain sidecut enables quick turns in the steep and won’t feel unwieldy on hardpack.
im looking for a new pair of skis for next season but im not sure which ones to get. im interested in these, K2 sodos, bd kilowatts, atomic janaks, rossignol sickbirds, and maybe g3 el hombres. bindings will be bd O2s or hammerheads. im an advanced telemarker and ill be skiing 80% in bounds, but off-piste terrain. anything helps, thanks
These are definitely lighter on the feet than I expected, but I think something like the Kilowatt holds a slightly stronger line in the crud. For a resort ski though, these really do it all very well. Lively, surfy (for a mid fat), and confidence inspiring are words that come to mind (skiing 186s with Dukes as an everyday ski). And of course, carves just fine on the cord getting back to the lift.
I have a pair of these and absolutely love them. Fat and damp for the powder and crud, but they carve amazingly well. Even when my friend, a sales rep for BD skied them, he was blown away!
In all the conditions i've skiied so far, i have really enjoyed these skis. I have the 172s and i'm about 5'8" and 140ish. These skis perform very well in crud and chopped up mashed potatoes conditions. The twin tip releases nicely from turns and comes around nicely if weighted properly but they also hold an edge quite well on groomers and hard pack at decently high speeds, though they obviously aren't a racing ski. I have yet to ski them in deep powder since i bought them last spring, but with the 134 shovel and 100 underfoot i would imagine they float quite nicely, although i have heard some people say they can be too stiff and dive in the deeps. All in all, i'm very happy with these skis. Great quiver-of-one in my opinion.
i am getting in to tele skiin and am looking for some skis. I have this years K2 obesthed and love them and i am considering putting tele bindings of them? anyone done this or teled on a rockered ski? would it be better to get the karhu 100 since its a specific tele ski?
Just throw some tele bindings on your Obsethed's, they should work fine. The rockered tip will help out for tele-ing in deeper snow (it's tail rocker that you want to stay away from for telemarking, due to the rearwards heel pressure of your downhill ski). Tele "specific" skis aren't any different from alpine skis in construction (except for a rare few cases). So if you;re just starting out, no need to buy a whole new pair of skis. The REALLY important things you should focus on are bindings and boots. For tele, getting the right binding/boot combo is far more important than in alpine...
My original plan was to have reduce my pile of skis down to one, but I saw these and couldn't resist getting them for lift-assisted days. I love them! They're fat, but not too fat. Which means they really do take you through nearly all snow conditions happily. They put a huge smile on my face the first time I took them out -- I loved the speed and control they gave me. I had previously been on the original Jaks in the ferocious and stiff long length, so when I went to other skis I really missed the speed and stomping power. These had that, with the added benefit that it didn't take an act of god to turn them. Slightly heavy for hiking up the hills (for me at least, b'cuz I have the lighter, shorter Jak BCs) but an absolute blast when pointed downhill. Which is the point, if I recall.
Finally got on a pair of these. TOured up Paradise mtn outside chico couple weeks back. Light enough for touring but still maintains reasonable stiffness and stability at speeds. As many already know, these ski like...surprise...Karhus Storm. 100 underfoot is a great fit for my needs and mixed on-off piste adventures. Buy em - won't be disappointed
So, Will the poster who said that these skis are the exact same ski as the Line Prophet 100's with a different topsheet please explain? I am looking far and wide for a good AT ski, but am on a serious budget. Where did you get the info that this is the same ski- or did you ski them both and the feel the same to you?Thanks!
Karhu and Line are the same company. Line markets their skis as alpine boards, and Karhu as tele, but the Prophet 100 and Team 100 are the same ski except for the graphics (as the earlier posted noted). Either would make a fine fat AT ski. If going uphill is a priority you might also look into the Karhu Storm BC, which is a little narrower but lighter.
I have a pair of the 179cm with freeride plus bindings mounted on the AT line. They perform as advertised plus some! Now I understand why the Prophet 100's were Gear of the Year last season. They cruise groomers like a GS ski(doesn't feel 100mm underfoot), bust through the chop, and float through powder. Whether east coast or west, these are a fabulous value. Why buy the Prophets when you can get the identical skis-sans the graphics for $100 less!
Where is the mounting line on this ski in relation to the mounting line on the line prophets? Im thinking of buying these and mounting them with a pair of marker griffons, any suggestion as to where to mount them?
Same exact spot. I've owned a couple of pair, and found the suggested mounting point far forward, make the ski really "spoony" but super turny. I've moved back 3 cm from suggested boot center, and that was a big improvement.
These skies are great in the crud, as advertised. However, in the deep powder they are just too stiff and tend to dive if you have a tele set up. Great for the just, ok for the powder.
Unless you'll be doing a lot of touring, go for the BD O2. Best binding ever.----------------------If you will be doing some hard ripping and don't require a touring mode you might also want to check out the Hammerhead it is very durable (they dont even sell a repair kit) and it has six mounting screws instead of four.
You can buy special skins for twin tip or you can modify the skins yourself, and simply buy another front loop and use the same process that you did for hooking it at the front of the ski for the back when your trimming them.
I am condidering the line 100, k2 obsethed , and k2 kung fujas as well as the team 100. I do not ride and dont intend to do any alpine touring or telemark skiing just your standard din fixed binding powder skiing, I also like trees and bumps, in that order. Can I use these skis for without tele bindings? What are the drawbacks?
The Line prophet 100 and the Karhu team 100 are the exact same ski, different top sheets. The Karhus come with telemark and alpine mounting points. The obsethed is a rockered ski. That makes it more powder specific than the others. The fujas is a really soft flexing ski that doesn't perform as well as the others as an all mountain ski. The Line 100/Karhu 100 are the most versatile out of the skis you listed. I just bought the Karhu 100 because they can be found for a lot cheaper ($400 new if you search the internet) than the line 100. And I liked the topsheets better. The green is actually a lime green, very bright.You can ski these no problem with a normal DIN alpine binding. And the graphics kick ass.
1 Comment Last Comment: October 18, 2009 by: Joey Beck
By: Joey Beck
October 18, 2009
btw i have the hammerhead bindings on these which give excellent control and stiffness
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